Why LT ?
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All about the marketable hype man. Why build a throwback camaro vs moving forward? Why do all this throwback bs. Just trying to create an attachment to the older guys to make them buy new ones. Same with the ZL1 comeback, ZR1, LT1...you name it....
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LS4 already exists
- snip from wikipedia -
"The LS4 is a 5,328 cc (5.328 L; 325.1 cu in) version of the Generation IV block. Though it has the same displacement as the Vortec 5300 LY5, it features an aluminum block instead of iron, and it uses the same cylinder head as the Generation III LS6 engine. The bellhousing bolt pattern differs from the rear-wheel drive blocks.
This engine is adapted for transverse front-wheel drive applications. According to GM, "The crankshaft is shortened 13 mm – 3 mm at the flywheel end and 10 mm at the accessory drive end – to reduce the length of the engine compared to the 6.0L. All accessories are driven by a single serpentine belt to save space. The water pump is mounted remotely with an elongated pump manifold that connects it to the coolant passages. Revised oil pan baffles, or windage trays, are incorporated into the LS4 to ensure that the oil sump stays loaded during high-g cornering."[6] Active Fuel Management is also used. Output of this version is 303 hp (226 kW)/300 hp on LaCrosse Super and 323 lb·ft (438 N·m)."
- snip from wikipedia -
"The LS4 is a 5,328 cc (5.328 L; 325.1 cu in) version of the Generation IV block. Though it has the same displacement as the Vortec 5300 LY5, it features an aluminum block instead of iron, and it uses the same cylinder head as the Generation III LS6 engine. The bellhousing bolt pattern differs from the rear-wheel drive blocks.
This engine is adapted for transverse front-wheel drive applications. According to GM, "The crankshaft is shortened 13 mm – 3 mm at the flywheel end and 10 mm at the accessory drive end – to reduce the length of the engine compared to the 6.0L. All accessories are driven by a single serpentine belt to save space. The water pump is mounted remotely with an elongated pump manifold that connects it to the coolant passages. Revised oil pan baffles, or windage trays, are incorporated into the LS4 to ensure that the oil sump stays loaded during high-g cornering."[6] Active Fuel Management is also used. Output of this version is 303 hp (226 kW)/300 hp on LaCrosse Super and 323 lb·ft (438 N·m)."
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I agree. It's going to be so confusing. It shouldn't be LS# because this is a new gen. It should be L_1. Anything that hasn't been used before. I'd be happy with LX1.
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I also think GM underestimates how much the few people who _are_ nostalgic for old RPOs are annoyed by having them re-used.
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I hate the engine designation. LT1 is attached to a garbage optispark motor that wasn't worth a crap.
I think it should have been named LR1 since LS_ is gen IV and LT1 has already been done. It's the next closest letter in the alphabet that rolls off the tongue.
I think it should have been named LR1 since LS_ is gen IV and LT1 has already been done. It's the next closest letter in the alphabet that rolls off the tongue.
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Seriously, it's only a freakin' name for the engine!!!! Way too many concerned about names, or how little horsepower the engine has or whatever (other thread posts). It's about the complete package and experience of the car once it comes out and you get to see it and drive it. Every generation is better than the previous one and this generation will follow suit.
I am just waiting for Jan 13, 2013 to see the real deal.
I am just waiting for Jan 13, 2013 to see the real deal.
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Seriously, it's only a freakin' name for the engine!!!! Way too many concerned about names, or how little horsepower the engine has or whatever (other thread posts). It's about the complete package and experience of the car once it comes out and you get to see it and drive it. Every generation is better than the previous one and this generation will follow suit.
I am just waiting for Jan 13, 2013 to see the real deal.
I am just waiting for Jan 13, 2013 to see the real deal.
But....I also agree with them. I think rehashing the LT1 moniker was dumb. A new gen motor designation is more than appropriate for the new gen Corvette.
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GM has a limited number of RPO codes they use. It will have been 18 years since the LT1 was last used, nearly as large a gap as last time. LS4 would have been much more confusing, since the LS4 was used as recently as 2009.
It makes sense to drop the LS_ since it is a new gen, although they didn't between Gen III and GenIV, possibly because of how similar those engines were to each other.
I think context clues should be enough and it wont be that bad.
It makes sense to drop the LS_ since it is a new gen, although they didn't between Gen III and GenIV, possibly because of how similar those engines were to each other.
I think context clues should be enough and it wont be that bad.