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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 01:31 PM
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Yeah... I thought about buying an aftermarket HUD. I also have an old Android device I could use. Not really worth it for me, though. Besides, when I get back in my Corvette, the HUD is one of those warm "I love this car" feelings for me.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Yeah... I thought about buying an aftermarket HUD. I also have an old Android device I could use. Not really worth it for me, though. Besides, when I get back in my Corvette, the HUD is one of those warm "I love this car" feelings for me.
not sure if the old phone would work unless it still gets the GPS signal.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 01:43 PM
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Why would it be smart? I can't see making everyone have to pay for systems they don't want. I don't want GM making me pay for an OEM nav system just like I don't want them to dictate whether I have a coupe or convertible. I've had my HUD turned off all year and haven't missed it once. It's just like how I don't want OnStar but for some reason, I have to pay for it!
Smart for them, not us ! Do not forget, GM is in this for the money. If they can save money using a standardized wiring harness across all the various trim levels and, drive down their unit costs by installing as standard, items that you nor I could give a rat's a** about, they are going to do it. I could care less about OnStar or Sirius/XM yet if I want to own a GM built vehicle, I have to co-op the cost of the installed units along with everyone else that buys one. Expect this to happen in the C7. They will make std., items that were optional on the C6. The fewer the trip options, the lower the mfg cost.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
They will make std., items that were optional on the C6. The fewer the trip options, the lower the mfg cost.
True that. And there's another by-product advantage to making some of those options standard. It often gets nice mentions in consumer-level review articles. "...But for your money, you get lots of extra goodies that competitors charge you for as options."

Some consumers are swayed by those statements. "Hey! I get more for my money! Let's go buy one o' them there thangs!"
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Andrew6
not sure if the old phone would work unless it still gets the GPS signal.
It's not THAT old. LOL It was one of the first super-badass android phones. 1GHz processor, built in GPS, BT, etc... the works. It's also one of the first phones with a full AMOLED screen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_One

I used it as a HUD long ago in my 300zx. But it was pretty lame compared to my stock HUD in my C5Z.

BTW, it works with Bluetooth OBD readers... So I could run an OBDII HUD too. I've seen a few on the App store.
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Old Oct 28, 2012 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeyTX
Smart for them, not us ! Do not forget, GM is in this for the money. If they can save money using a standardized wiring harness across all the various trim levels and, drive down their unit costs by installing as standard, items that you nor I could give a rat's a** about, they are going to do it. I could care less about OnStar or Sirius/XM yet if I want to own a GM built vehicle, I have to co-op the cost of the installed units along with everyone else that buys one. Expect this to happen in the C7. They will make std., items that were optional on the C6. The fewer the trip options, the lower the mfg cost.
I know what you mean but they may well not sell as many if they do that. Raising the base price with all those adders people don't care about is likely to PO potential buyers like me. I'm POed enough that they make me pay for OnStar I will never use.

I'd be surprised if they didn't already have a standardized wiring harness that options could be plugged into.
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That's why I wish I still had the '07 2LT M6 with the Z51 pkg. Last year for no mandatory OnStar or sat radio ! And, I feel as you do about having to pay for stuff I'll never use.
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HUD's are awesome, Here's the one I use at work every day!

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Old Oct 30, 2012 | 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefttp
HUD's are awesome, Here's the one I use at work every day!

Oh, you too? LOL

Mine always has a constant missile lock.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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SCM Crash,
Are you really a pilot or were you just joking? if you are, what are you flying?
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Colorado C6
BlueOX-- Corvette needs to attract the younger crowd and they want cutting edge navagation, headsup, improved audio systems, etc. Corvette didn't even have Bluetooth until 2009. My 2004 Acura TL had Bluetooth for crying out loud. GM has been way behind the curve for years. Time to catch up and attract the younger crowd or you can just cancel Corvette.
Agree. The younger generations surround themselves with high technology, and such goodies in a premium car can be a major selling point. I was shocked to learn that my Corvette 2010 3LT didn't have MP3/iPod connectivity.

Side note: My second car is a low priced Hyundai Genesis V-8 sedan with Corvette horsepower, and it's 10 years ahead of the Corvette in interior electronic technology.
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 09:31 PM
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Agree. The younger generations surround themselves with high technology, and such goodies in a premium car can be a major selling point. I was shocked to learn that my Corvette 2010 3LT didn't have MP3/iPod connectivity.

Side note: My second car is a low priced Hyundai Genesis V-8 sedan with Corvette horsepower, and it's 10 years ahead of the Corvette in interior electronic technology.
Well, there is no doubt that this kind of tech can be an effective sales point...nobody is arguing that here.

The point I am trying to make is to keep it an OPTION vs forcing folks to have a standard package that must include it. It POs me to no end that I have to pay for OnStar (both hardware and software) whether I want it or not. I don't want any more of this kind of stuff forced down my gullet!
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Old Nov 1, 2012 | 11:32 PM
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Which situation makes GM the most money?

1. Lower the per-piece cost by making it standard; use standard HUD to either (a) justify a higher price or (b) sell more Corvettes

2. Make HUD a freefloating option; price it to maximize total profit

3. Bundle HUD with an option package; use HUD's inclusion to either (a) justify a higher price or (b) sell more Corvettes with that option package


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In 2010 I posted a link to a new HUD that had street lines for each curb. The link has been removed. In any-event the HUD had lines on each side of the street that bent as the road curved in real time while driving. I think that would be extremely helpful for those really foggy days/nites.
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Originally Posted by Ammo
In 2010 I posted a link to a new HUD that had street lines for each curb. The link has been removed. In any-event the HUD had lines on each side of the street that bent as the road curved in real time while driving. I think that would be extremely helpful for those really foggy days/nites.
youtube Pioneer HUD
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefttp
SCM Crash,
Are you really a pilot or were you just joking? if you are, what are you flying?
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Oh, I was kidding. But I wanted to take up flying. I was going to be an Eagle Scout... But then Boy Scouts of America decided that Atheism was anti-American.
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Old Nov 2, 2012 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Jinx
Which situation makes GM the most money?

1. Lower the per-piece cost by making it standard; use standard HUD to either (a) justify a higher price or (b) sell more Corvettes

2. Make HUD a freefloating option; price it to maximize total profit

3. Bundle HUD with an option package; use HUD's inclusion to either (a) justify a higher price or (b) sell more Corvettes with that option package


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Hard to know because it depends on GM's internal costs of the HUD units, the cost to put the wiring in to connect the HUD, the cost to install them vs not installing them, the relative costs of the different dash boards, the relative costs of the different windshields, etc, etc. A lot also depends on just how much they can charge for them as an option.

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I don't know either, but the choice for C5 and C6 was #3, so that's my guess. It has worked its way down over the years, though, hasn't it? It used to be in the 1SC/3LT, but now it's in 2LT.

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Why the OnStar hate? Even if you don't use all the bells and whistles of that feature, it's a nice safety net for some worst-case scenarios. I think that's one of the best UE creations GM has come up with.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Well, there is no doubt that this kind of tech can be an effective sales point...nobody is arguing that here.

The point I am trying to make is to keep it an OPTION vs forcing folks to have a standard package that must include it. It POs me to no end that I have to pay for OnStar (both hardware and software) whether I want it or not. I don't want any more of this kind of stuff forced down my gullet!
Well then BlueOX, get ready for back up cameras as standard equipment. There are rumblings that some do gooders want back up cameras as standard equipement because a very, very small percentage of dumb drivers kill small children when they back out of the driveway. They feel it is worth having the consumer pay for something he may not need because of a few dumb drivers.
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