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The Consigliere
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Excellent reason to get a stick shift.
And thanks for the info.
Pro
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What does make sense? When the General continues to confuse anybody that owed a 70 corvette with an LT-1, or an LS-6 Chevelle or picked up an LS-7 racing engine over the counter. Can't they come up with some totally new numbers? This will be the third verion of the LT-1. Not to mention my "SLT" GMC Which Dodge uses on their trucks.
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I figured it would be so innocuous that it would be answered.
So all of you guys complaining about AFM.... just buy a manual. Problem solved.
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Lt1
I spoke to a couple different guys at the GM booth again today and asked about the AFM. They both claimed the sticks will have it as far as they have been told and that with DI they are more able to make it undetectable. I also asked about the transmissions and they wouldn't/couldn't answer. These guys weren't Corvette tech's but do seem to have pretty good knowledge of mechanics and are not just sales types.
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
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From: St. Jacob Illinois
I spoke to a couple different guys at the GM booth again today and asked about the AFM. They both claimed the sticks will have it as far as they have been told and that with DI they are more able to make it undetectable. I also asked about the transmissions and they wouldn't/couldn't answer. These guys weren't Corvette tech's but do seem to have pretty good knowledge of mechanics and are not just sales types.
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
Le Mans Master
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yeah me too. Not good when the guys in the same booth can't keep their story straight. However, given that no one else has announced AFM (DoD, MDS) on a manual transmission and GM only applied for a patent for it in June of this year, I am hopeful that there will be no AFM on the manual.
Le Mans Master
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I spoke to a couple different guys at the GM booth again today and asked about the AFM. They both claimed the sticks will have it as far as they have been told and that with DI they are more able to make it undetectable. I also asked about the transmissions and they wouldn't/couldn't answer. These guys weren't Corvette tech's but do seem to have pretty good knowledge of mechanics and are not just sales types.
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
Were any of the guys power train engineers? Maybe a VP or SVP would be almost as good as long as they are not from Marketing or Customer Relations.
Instructor
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Got to see the new engine there are 3 pics of it its on a stand pic number 150 ( hover mouse over pic to see the numbers
http://www.aksnapshots.com/cars
Let me know what you guys think..
http://www.aksnapshots.com/cars
Let me know what you guys think..
Intermediate
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Got to see the new engine there are 3 pics of it its on a stand pic number 150 ( hover mouse over pic to see the numbers
http://www.aksnapshots.com/cars
Let me know what you guys think..
http://www.aksnapshots.com/cars
Let me know what you guys think..
I tell ya somthin though that stupid cover would be on a shelf as soon as i got the car home...
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Racer
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I'll try some more again tomorrow but I don't know who glhf386 talked to. There must be 20+ folks @ the booth at any one time and you usually have to wait to get a chance to talk with them.
The two today didn't seem to be totally, absolutely sure about AFM in my mind but that was their understanding.They did make the case that it's the way of the future with CAFE standards, and that logic is hard to argue with. I was told GM tried AFM back in some C5's so you'd think they could have fine tuned it by now.
I'll see how it shakes out tomorrow.
Hal
The two today didn't seem to be totally, absolutely sure about AFM in my mind but that was their understanding.They did make the case that it's the way of the future with CAFE standards, and that logic is hard to argue with. I was told GM tried AFM back in some C5's so you'd think they could have fine tuned it by now.
I'll see how it shakes out tomorrow.
Hal
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Well, I talked to an older silver haired gentleman but unfortunately I didn't catch his name. His manner of speaking led me to believe he was from an engineering background. Maybe I'll have a chance to clarify tomorrow.
Last edited by glhs386; Nov 2, 2012 at 02:59 AM.
Le Mans Master
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I spoke to a couple different guys at the GM booth again today and asked about the AFM. They both claimed the sticks will have it as far as they have been told and that with DI they are more able to make it undetectable. I also asked about the transmissions and they wouldn't/couldn't answer. These guys weren't Corvette tech's but do seem to have pretty good knowledge of mechanics and are not just sales types.
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
They claim C7 information is totally under wraps and they really don't know much about it. They claimed the rendering we have here on CF cost someone their job.
I did get the name of someone that does have some information and I haven't been able to track him down but doubt it will make a difference.
I also talked to someone at Lingenfelter that is very familiar with the LT1 and asked him about the motor,electronics and heads. He says the ECM doesn't worry him but the heads exhaust side may take some work. A quick look at the castings on display made me think the same thing.
Wish I had more to report..
Hal
yeah me too. Not good when the guys in the same booth can't keep their story straight. However, given that no one else has announced AFM (DoD, MDS) on a manual transmission and GM only applied for a patent for it in June of this year, I am hopeful that there will be no AFM on the manual.
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