How many C6Z owners are gonna jump ship?
12-19-2012, 03:37 PM
#141
Team Owner
Remember - The 2006 abd 2007 Z06's were the lightest. They added a weight to them and are about 100 pounds heavier in later years (Using the types you referenced). Tires are easy to change out and I would say that I prefer coil overs to the Mag ride any day, but that is not stock vs stock.
I am not sure what the lap times were, but from 2006 to 2011 it would mainly be the tires difference, as you pointed out.
Either way - I am keeping my Z06. I like the 427. If they make a C7 Z06, which I am not sure they will, we will have to see what the performance is when it comes out. I am sure it will be good. I am interested in seeing those cars over the base C7.
I am not sure what the lap times were, but from 2006 to 2011 it would mainly be the tires difference, as you pointed out.
Either way - I am keeping my Z06. I like the 427. If they make a C7 Z06, which I am not sure they will, we will have to see what the performance is when it comes out. I am sure it will be good. I am interested in seeing those cars over the base C7.
GM's spec's......
2006 base Z06 curb weight....3132#
2013 base Z06 curb weight....3175#
Only 43 pounds heavier, not 100.
Of course, the newer model Z06's with the optional carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber hood and carbon fiber roof might come in under 3175#.
12-21-2012, 09:35 AM
#143
Le Mans Master
12-21-2012, 10:22 AM
#145
Melting Slicks
Maybe Gm can make a real track specific car with the C7....like the Superleggera or 430 Scud...alcantara instead of heavier leather...carbon backed race buckets instead of motorized seats, radio/AC delete OPTION, carpet delete (aluminum floor plate) OPTION??
That would be the choice of most current C6ZO6 owners I bet!
That would be the choice of most current C6ZO6 owners I bet!
12-21-2012, 10:24 AM
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12-21-2012, 10:28 AM
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12-21-2012, 10:31 AM
#148
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Maybe Gm can make a real track specific car with the C7....like the Superleggera or 430 Scud...alcantara instead of heavier leather...carbon backed race buckets instead of motorized seats, radio/AC delete OPTION, carpet delete (aluminum floor plate) OPTION??
That would be the choice of most current C6ZO6 owners I bet!
That would be the choice of most current C6ZO6 owners I bet!
I'd even go farther and say the ones who do opt for the "track specific" version are mainly doing it for poser reasons only. And wont see the track. Just like the 430 Scud's I see showing up at weekend car meets.
12-21-2012, 10:36 AM
#149
Melting Slicks
That would be the least choice. How many Z owners do you think actually hit the track.
I'd even go farther and say the ones who do opt for the "track specific" version are mainly doing it for poser reasons only. And wont see the track. Just like the 430 Scud's I see showing up at weekend car meets.
I'd even go farther and say the ones who do opt for the "track specific" version are mainly doing it for poser reasons only. And wont see the track. Just like the 430 Scud's I see showing up at weekend car meets.
I wouldn't use it but it seems like a lot of ZO6 members here may?
However you're probably right...most people who can buy a track specific car a' la GT3 RS have another car as a daily driver and not a C6ZO6 as their DD
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12-21-2012, 01:52 PM
#150
Team Owner
right, but maybe as an option package, like the new Viper track-pack?
I wouldn't use it but it seems like a lot of ZO6 members here may?
However you're probably right...most people who can buy a track specific car a' la GT3 RS have another car as a daily driver and not a C6ZO6 as their DD
I wouldn't use it but it seems like a lot of ZO6 members here may?
However you're probably right...most people who can buy a track specific car a' la GT3 RS have another car as a daily driver and not a C6ZO6 as their DD
12-22-2012, 04:12 PM
#151
Melting Slicks
Not sure where you got you information, but the newer models are in fact heavier by more than what you are indicating in your post. And the carbon edition weighs more, not less as you described in your post. For example - Please read this article by Road & Track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...he-power-of-12
The Z07 Weighed in at 100+ pounds heavier than the standard Z06.
Here is another link, to the recent Motor Trend 2011's Drivers Car. This is the 2012 Z06 w/ Z07 & Centennial edition package.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...car_contender/
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3320 lb (49/51%)
It does seem a bit high... Roughly 150lbs more than the early Z06s. But, these cars were put on scales in both articles.
Where did you get the standard 3132 weight? That number is always thrown around on this forum, but are you sure that is the weight? GM's specs and what others weighed them in at are different each time. Could it be more gas in a car?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...he-power-of-12
The Z07 Weighed in at 100+ pounds heavier than the standard Z06.
Here is another link, to the recent Motor Trend 2011's Drivers Car. This is the 2012 Z06 w/ Z07 & Centennial edition package.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...car_contender/
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3320 lb (49/51%)
It does seem a bit high... Roughly 150lbs more than the early Z06s. But, these cars were put on scales in both articles.
Where did you get the standard 3132 weight? That number is always thrown around on this forum, but are you sure that is the weight? GM's specs and what others weighed them in at are different each time. Could it be more gas in a car?
Newer model Z06's are not as heavy as you have been led to believe.
GM's spec's......
2006 base Z06 curb weight....3132#
2013 base Z06 curb weight....3175#
Only 43 pounds heavier, not 100.
Of course, the newer model Z06's with the optional carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber hood and carbon fiber roof might come in under 3175#.
GM's spec's......
2006 base Z06 curb weight....3132#
2013 base Z06 curb weight....3175#
Only 43 pounds heavier, not 100.
Of course, the newer model Z06's with the optional carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber hood and carbon fiber roof might come in under 3175#.
12-23-2012, 04:39 PM
#154
Drifting
Agreed!
I think some folks will (and already have) but not me. Couldn't be happier with my C6Z, its a really special car. Love the big cubes and high revs. Very unique and will be a rarity as time goes on. Oh, and don't get me started on the exhaust noise... its heavenly! If you end up getting one, you'll absolutely love it.
I am looking forward to the C7 and depending on what it offers, I may be interested in a high performance version down the line, but hesitant as I do want to experience different sports cars as well (911s, Vipers, and such). One of these will park along side the C6Z.
I am looking forward to the C7 and depending on what it offers, I may be interested in a high performance version down the line, but hesitant as I do want to experience different sports cars as well (911s, Vipers, and such). One of these will park along side the C6Z.
12-23-2012, 08:03 PM
#155
Le Mans Master
edit: wasn't the C4 ZR1 with 405hp a lot faster than the base C5????
The major thing the C5 had over the C4 was the design. It was a lot less square looking than the C4, and made the C4 outdated..now only time will tell if the C6 Z06 will have that timeless design.
me being a C6 Z06 owner will be hoping the new vette will be a grand slam because lets face it, its the present/future of corvette!!
The major thing the C5 had over the C4 was the design. It was a lot less square looking than the C4, and made the C4 outdated..now only time will tell if the C6 Z06 will have that timeless design.
me being a C6 Z06 owner will be hoping the new vette will be a grand slam because lets face it, its the present/future of corvette!!
I doubt the first year base c7 will have performance close to the c6z.
No more new corvettes for me -- next corvette for me will be an old school big block c3.
12-23-2012, 10:11 PM
#157
Drifting
Not sure where you got you information, but the newer models are in fact heavier by more than what you are indicating in your post. And the carbon edition weighs more, not less as you described in your post. For example - Please read this article by Road & Track
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...he-power-of-12
The Z07 Weighed in at 100+ pounds heavier than the standard Z06.
Here is another link, to the recent Motor Trend 2011's Drivers Car. This is the 2012 Z06 w/ Z07 & Centennial edition package.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...car_contender/
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3320 lb (49/51%)
It does seem a bit high... Roughly 150lbs more than the early Z06s. But, these cars were put on scales in both articles.
Where did you get the standard 3132 weight? That number is always thrown around on this forum, but are you sure that is the weight? GM's specs and what others weighed them in at are different each time. Could it be more gas in a car?
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/ca...he-power-of-12
The Z07 Weighed in at 100+ pounds heavier than the standard Z06.
Here is another link, to the recent Motor Trend 2011's Drivers Car. This is the 2012 Z06 w/ Z07 & Centennial edition package.
http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...car_contender/
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 3320 lb (49/51%)
It does seem a bit high... Roughly 150lbs more than the early Z06s. But, these cars were put on scales in both articles.
Where did you get the standard 3132 weight? That number is always thrown around on this forum, but are you sure that is the weight? GM's specs and what others weighed them in at are different each time. Could it be more gas in a car?
12-23-2012, 10:13 PM
#158
Drifting
My 1991 375hp zr1 would absolutely walk all over the 1997 350 hp ls1 C5's and big time. It would walk the first year 385hp 2001 z06. and from a a 30-40 mph roll it would even get the 405hp c5 z06's.
I doubt the first year base c7 will have performance close to the c6z.
No more new corvettes for me -- next corvette for me will be an old school big block c3.
I doubt the first year base c7 will have performance close to the c6z.
No more new corvettes for me -- next corvette for me will be an old school big block c3.
i just hope that the new top vette comes out with 700hp and still manages to weigh atleast 3300lbs or less!! lets face it people removing weight is VERY costly!!
12-24-2012, 12:33 AM
#159
Burning Brakes
The key improvements to the C7 are in the areas of fuel economy and a more youthful & advanced interior. (And by the way, cylinder-deactivation sux for peformance no matter how it's rationalized IMO.) But performance-wise it's expected to only be a slight improvement over the base C6. The C6Z offers far too much performance until the C7 brings at least 480HP (which the base car will be well shy of), to even start such a discussion...
