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Old 01-17-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
Z51 has 13.6 fronts with some very good brembo calipers
Bingo.
Old 01-17-2013, 08:13 PM
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I don't care if it stops better than my ZR1, as long as it doesn't accelerate better than it, which it has as much chance of that as the taillights being changed.
You are going to be one sad panda bear when both the C7 Z06 and ZR 1 out accelerate your car.
Old 01-17-2013, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by themonk
seriously dude^^ what year is this from??? They have a 996 Porsche ( 2 generations old), BMW Z8 and a C6 base....hahahahahahah


I think this was made before the Z06 even came out...nice try though.
Old 01-17-2013, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mustang1999
You are going to be one sad panda bear when both the C7 Z06 and ZR 1 out accelerate your car.
well we should expect this though right?
Why would the new C7 ZR1 be a slower car.
I don't understand what you're getting at.


...never mind I saw your name
Old 01-17-2013, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer
Like it will do to all the C6's except the Z06 and ZR1.
GM's own performance figures say just under 4.0 sec for C7 0-60. Again, GM's figures, not forum noise. The same GM figures (apples-to-apples road test data), put the C6Z06 at 3.7 sec 0-60 - that's much faster that the C7.

And if you're wondering, GM doesn't use big rounding figures in their quoted test data. They cite the C6 Grand Sport at 3.95 sec 0-60 - very precise - and, that's also "just under 4.0 seconds." (sounds similar)

So, according to GM themselves, the C7 performance is about = to the C6 Grand Sport.

(No need to excessively self-lubricate about build specs and technology when you have apples-to-apples performance data from the same manufacturer.)

Done.
Old 01-17-2013, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
seriously dude^^ what year is this from??? They have a 996 Porsche ( 2 generations old), BMW Z8 and a C6 base....hahahahahahah


I think this was made before the Z06 even came out...nice try though.
Yeah true, my bad it is old but I guarantee you that the ZR1 is not the best braking car in the world.
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Originally Posted by mustang1999
You are going to be one sad panda bear when both the C7 Z06 and ZR 1 out accelerate your car.
No I won't, I am only talking about the current Z51 optioned car. I know, if they come out with a ZR1 type C7, it will smoke mine, well, maybe not mine (LPE stage 3 upgrade) but a stock one. But the funny thing is, I will be driving that C7 ZR1.
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Originally Posted by VETTEMANN
GM's own performance figures say just under 4.0 sec for C7 0-60. Again, GM's figures, not forum noise. The same GM figures (apples-to-apples road test data), put the C6Z06 at 3.7 sec 0-60 - that's much faster that the C7.

And if you're wondering, GM doesn't use big rounding figures in their quoted test data. They cite the C6 Grand Sport at 3.95 sec 0-60 - very precise - and, that's also "just under 4.0 seconds." (sounds similar)

So, according to GM themselves, the C7 performance is about = to the C6 Grand Sport.


(No need to excessively self-lubricate about build specs and technology when you have apples-to-apples performance data from the same manufacturer.)

Done.
I am SO willing to bet you.
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Originally Posted by themonk
Yeah true, my bad it is old but I guarantee you that the ZR1 is not the best braking car in the world.

http://m.motortrend.com/features/mt_...t/viewall.html


with cup tires it would be only behind the Z06 Carbon (brakes and MRSA stolen from ZR1)

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Racer
No I won't, I am only talking about the current Z51 optioned car. I know, if they come out with a ZR1 type C7, it will smoke mine, well, maybe not mine (LPE stage 3 upgrade) but a stock one. But the funny thing is, I will be driving that C7 ZR1.
me too
Old 01-17-2013, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
GM posted braking specs?
No, but GM later posted other spec's of the C7 that matched what C&D showed. If C&D somehow "guessed" the other dimensions down to .1", I'm thinking C&D is not guessing, but learned what the numbers are from their personal interviews with GM engineers.
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tadge said the C7 will be faster than the Grand Sport
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
tadge said the C7 will be faster than the Grand Sport
Again, this should be expected.
Old 01-17-2013, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
No, but GM later posted other spec's of the C7 that matched what C&D showed. If C&D somehow "guessed" the other dimensions down to .1", I'm thinking C&D is not guessing, but learned what the numbers are from their personal interviews with GM engineers.
I belive some of the specs like dimensions are from GM, but they are guessing about other things. Remember when C&D said the C7 would have a 5.5 liter engine?
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
I belive some of the specs like dimensions are from GM, but they are guessing about other things. Remember when C&D said the C7 would have a 5.5 liter engine?
Yep, but that was before C&D actually set down and had a face to face discussion about the C7 with GM's engineers.
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Originally Posted by 05dsom
Again, this should be expected.
Agreed I'm surprised some other people don't get this.
Old 01-17-2013, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DREAMERAK
tadge said the C7 will be faster than the Grand Sport
Okaay, what does that mean? 3.94 seconds?

This is exactly my bitch with GM: They accomplished a lot just maintaining 450HP with much higher gas milage, but they are hyping C7 performance while be coy at the same time.

C7 performance gains just don't add up (until they show up with their performance 'A' game in a future Z version):
> Not a lighter car
> Similar HP
> Less rubber underneath

GM: Just take credit for the looks, interior quality and fuel efficiency and don't BS about the rest.

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Old 01-17-2013, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Yep, but that was before C&D actually set down and had a face to face discussion about the C7 with GM's engineers.
True, but i still do not belive GM told them everything, or even close to everything.
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