capevettes

C6 Z06 owner here and I don't feel betrayed at all. I think they did a great job designing the C7. GM has always managed to make anything you own look obsolete. I fully expect that at some point a C7 will outperform the current Z06. Whether it's the Z51 or the new high performance version of the C7, I fully expected it. That won't diminish my enjoyment of my Z for now. A C7 L-88 sounds pretty good to me

BlueOx

OK, I'm done with that other stuff...

The real question is "Will the C7 Z51 that can beat a C6 Z06 cost MORE than the C6 Z06?"

BlueOx

Great attitude and it all remains to be seen if that even happens or not. I know I'm looking at the convertible feeling the same thing...it's just the way it goes. Nothing stays the same in performance autos.

FloydSummerOf68

It can't beat it and it won't cost more. I'll stick by that.

rexracerx9

I doubt the C7 will come close to the Z06 straight line numbers. Overall performance is much more then 1/4 mile times. Braking, balance, finesse, road feel have to be factored in. Not saying the C6 is bad, just saying I think the C7 will be a noticeable improvement over all.

The new base Porsche 991 is as fast on certain tracks as the out going 997S. The new 991S is as fast as the out going 997 GT3. I think the track times were tied at Nordschelife. I would not be surprised if the C7 Z51 was very close to the handing of the Z06 on certain tracks. Driver feel and balance should be at least as good or better since GM had time to develop the C7 from the ground up with very high goals.

Definitely going to be exciting to see how the C7 performs among it's own family members and with the rest of the world.

alanhang

im not sure they are the ones being silly.

FloydSummerOf68

Then you haven't seen some of the insanely defensive posts by current Z06 owners. My silly scenario isn't too far off, ha ha

elegant

I have a C6 Z06 and am glad the new C7 is so improved. Love the C7, having seen it in person at the Reveal. If the C7 with the Z51 package is competitive with my Z, GREAT!

There will be a high performance C7 in my next two year future.

1analguy

One thing looks fairly certain at this point: a C7 "Z06" would be heavier than the C6 Z06. The C7 base car is already as heavy as a C6 GS, and they've already picked all the low-hanging fruit for weight reduction on the C7...

Aaron Keating

Heavier does not equate to slower necessarily.

After all GT to SS the Fatmaro is still every bit as quick as the 'stang despite being 300lbs heavier.

jimmyb

Please post the C7's curb weight (from GM). I have seen a LOT of guessing, but no real numbers. If you are using magazine info....well, they all said the car would have an Aisin 8 speed auto.

Jimmy

BlueOx

Great analogy. It is fascinating to look at the cars that the Camaros (both ZL1 and SS1LE) bettered in the C&D Lightning Lap. The ZL1 beat the MB C63 Black Series, Porsche 911 Carrera S, and of course the Rustang GT500. The SS1LE beat the Jaguar XKR-S, Porsche Boxster S, Audi RS5/S6, BMW M6/M5/335i, just to name a few.

Shurshot

How do you consider that to be "fairly certain" ?

tuxnharley

I thought that in a different test the Boss 302 - which is lighter than both the GT500 and the ZL1 - was faster around Laguna Seca than the Camaros? Weight did seem to make a difference there, even with less HP.

HP can overcome weight on the drag strip, but not always on a tight road course. I remember those d@mn Pcars sometimes beating Corvettes, Cobras, and Shelby GT 350s at Laguna back in the 60s!

BWF07

I don't have a Z06, but I would think that the new C7 Stingray Z51 package should be an improvement over the C6. As far as GM feeding the info to C&D about the lap times at VIR, does not amount to a hill of beans without real numbers. Are they within a few seconds or what. I would expect that with what we have been told, about the improvements and refinement done to the chassis and suspension, the C7 should handle great on a true road course.
As far as overall performance, I think the Z06 will still have it over the C7 for a while yet. No reason for any true Corvette person to get upset over a new generations showing improvement over the past, if it didn't, then there would be no reason to change. I look forward to the real numbers in about six months.

AFVETTE

considering all that we really don't know for fact, the bits and pieces starting to be discovered indicate the C7 will be a far better car than many give it and GM credit for.

rexracerx9

Going to be a long 6 months!

BWF07

Got that right.

I meant to ask in my original reply, when will C&D hit the news stands or have they already?

Hemi Dave

Another forum member stated a distant relative saw the C7 testing at the proving grounds and that it was matching the C6 Z06 times.

He stated thats when they decided it was worthy of the Stingray name. He also stated the HP and TQ are more than 450.

Thus I think "competitive" in the case means at least the same times....maybe better.

C7 is looking good baby!!! I know Tadge smiled and said there are more surprises in store with the C7. We dont know all.

mitchydkid

Ok, this is just fantasy.... but how cool would it be if Tadge said, "Remember I told you all 450HP was an estimate. Well, the real numbers are in and we are going to have to replace that 4."

I know that won't happen, but man that would be bombshell.

-D