Jinx

I've seen people read too much into that dealer statement -- a statement tied to "commit to me, I'll get you what you need." Figures lie and liars figure, so here's some different figuring. If the line had been running at 8 and it's going to run at 18... running at 8 for a year produced about 12,000 cars, so running 18 for a year would be 2.25x that or just 27,000 cars -- not 36,000 or 37,000 or 40,000.

alanhang

exactly. Thats the point to people who cant move foreward. It was time for a drastic, change. Well they got it and it looks great.

alanhang

your math is wrong. 18 per "hour" over an 8 hour period is 144 per "day. times a 5 day work week, and you have 720 per "week" Times 52 weeks, doesnt give you 27000.

Jinx

You're missing the point, alanhang. You're making assumptions we don't know to be true. In fact I can tell you one of your assumptions is wrong -- they don't run the plant for 52 weeks in a year. They also don't work five eights, BTW.

If we take their build rate of 8/hr at face value, and the total production per year over the last couple of years (for which it was said the build rate was 8/hr), we can figure the number of hours they worked, and use that number to figure how many they'll build if they do 18/hr for the same number of hours. Or just skip the intermediate calculation and see the ratio of 18 to 8 is 2.25.

Now do you get it? Don't confuse bad math with different initial values.

.Jinx

Big Dan 427

What the factory can/will do cannot be predicted, too many variables! In case no one has noticed the government can't pay its bills, the economic trickle down effect and consumer confidence is one of those variables. Another is QC and another is timing the release! And other factors too such as consumer priorities. There may only be 10000 buyers right now, does GM want a giveaway car fresh out of the box b/c they build too many? Lots to be determined...

BlueOx

Gosh, how did they ever sell 40,000 in a year? Or maybe to you it was all figures lying and liars figuring?

Jinx

Don't be an ***, BlueOx. They worked different hours and they built at different rates. This is the point. Take one fact, 18/hr, run with assumptions pulled from nowhere, draw conclusions from the result, it's just guessing.

BlueOx

Who is the one assuming and drawing conclusions from NOWHERE? I read from a knowledgeable Corvette sales guy that 40k is the SALES goal and that they are going to be running 18 per hour rate. They may do as you suggest they did in the past, working different hours and building at different rates.

BTW, take a look back at your last few posts if you want to see who the *** is.

Bill17601

Blue Ox is an Ox..how can you be so confused and call him an ***?

By the by. I got mine on order with Mike at Crisswell. Remember when you buy your place in line is not as important as the allotment . You could be number 1 at a dealer with no allotment..BFD..

DREAMERAK

U.S. auto sales for January signal strong start to 2013 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/chrysl...131117133.html

JoesC5

When they were running the line at 22 cars/hour, they could get higher numbers out the door. Also, if they needed more cars, to meet demand, they ran the plant on overtime. The typical day is more then 8 hours long and the typical week is longer then 5 days.

You really need to have some real world experience in manufacturing before you post.

Jinx

You're right -- a sales goal stated by a salesman, it's like a history report from the future, beyond question or debate. GM will build 40,000 MY2014s in a twelve-month period. How could it be otherwise?

Aviator

Yeah, and wasn't the C5 first year production something like 9,000+ units?

Corvette03051

Like who cares. The more popular the car the more it will cost us to buy.
You know the dealers will cut us slack out of the goodness of their kind hearts. GM will surely have a meeting about giving back to those who have supported the hobby for many years with some sort of discount. NOT!

Jinx

Good point. C6-to-C7 probably fits somewhere between C4-to-C5 and C5-to-C6 on the learning curve.

BlueOx

I have plenty of experience in manufacturing both large and small.

Of course they have to work more, IF they have the demand. I don't think they will sell 40k (or 30k for that matter) and I don't think GM will have this issue.

The typical day in manufacturing isn't more than 8 or 10 hrs (depending on the way their shifts are designed) and the typical week isn't longer than 5 days unless something is feeding that need. Overtime certainly can happen depending on need. Corvette hasn't had that need for quite a while, have they?

mustang1999

Right wing media. Stop watching it! I guess all the gains in my stock portfolio has been faked by the financial institution. Oh don't forget my much higher salary. Someone must have faked the higher numbers. The economy is improving and a lot of people are doing better. Some people don't want that to be true for obvious reasons. This C7 will sell very well but I suspect the same people will come back here and say don't believe the numbers when it exceeds expectations.

Bill17601

Oh yes and do not forget the DOW...let me see over 14,000 today!!! I may buy two one coupe and one convertible just don't tell FOX news and pop their whoa is me attitude.

terps

Where did GM say 18 units per hour? First I've seen that stat.

JoesC5

I agree with you on the demand. I don't see how they will have the demand for more then 15,000-18,000 units for 2014 model year. While they can produce 40,000 units, they won't have that kind of demand.


A good insight on what's happening to the people that were the most likely ones to purchase a $60,000 toy.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/americ...00672.html?l=1