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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

Seems like Car and Driver does not see the C7 competition as Viper or Porshce 911 but less exotic cars. This is not a good thing considering these cars cost less money.

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Porsche Cayman
Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 coupe
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 08:55 PM
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Meh. I've always considered Corvette's competition to be two seat sports cars of similar performance capabilities.
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Seems to me they are only using price as a basis for this comparison. Once the car hits the track, then we will see where it fares with the real competition (cars costing nearly double or more). We all know on the track the C7 will likely run rings around any of the aforementioned cars.
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 10:21 PM
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I would think the current and new corvette could beat all of those cars.
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Well, this new C7 won't be up to par with the new Viper or 911 performance wise... Not until we see a C7 Z.
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Originally Posted by slief
Seems to me they are only using price as a basis for this comparison. Once the car hits the track, then we will see where it fares with the real competition (cars costing nearly double or more). We all know on the track the C7 will likely run rings around any of the aforementioned cars.
I twill have not trouble with the Porsche Cayman and the Dodge, but the Shelby GT500 will be a real task as well as the ZL1 and I am not sure it will be capable of running with those as for the Viper and the Porsche 911 GT or the Turbo, it will not stand a chance. The ZR1 was just slightly quicker then the Viper. Brand loyalty is one thing, but reality is another.
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 10:49 PM
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Did I really see someone mention the Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 in the same friggen sentence as the C7 Corvette? You gotta be sh*ttin' me!
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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Did I really see someone mention the Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 in the same friggen sentence as the C7 Corvette? You gotta be sh*ttin' me!
The Challenger does make more HP than the C7.... HA
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^ ...and it probably weighs 1,000 lbs more, too...
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I twill have not trouble with the Porsche Cayman and the Dodge, but the Shelby GT500 will be a real task as well as the ZL1 and I am not sure it will be capable of running with those as for the Viper and the Porsche 911 GT or the Turbo, it will not stand a chance. The ZR1 was just slightly quicker then the Viper. Brand loyalty is one thing, but reality is another.
What???? Not sure if it will be capable on running with a GT500 or the ZL1? Maybe not in a quarter mile but on a road course, I'd beg to differ. Even so, I'd bet the C7 would give either of those two a run for their money in the quarter mile. Especially with the average driver. We all know the C7 will handle it's power better than either of those cars especially given the weight distribution, traction control and suspension.

As for the Viper or the 911GT or the Turbo, I'd bet on a road course it will be closer than you think. Even still, the base C7 or Z51 probably wasn't setting it's sights on a Viper or a 911GT let alone Porsche Turbo. That will be the job of a Z06 or ZR1 varient which you can bet will raise the bar substantially over the C6 in terms of overall performance and handling.

You can be skeptical but I on the other hand am very confident.
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Just posted in another thread, take a look at this link and look at the lap time of the ZL1.
Looks like the C7 might have some trouble with the ZL1.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...r-times-page-8
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Did I really see someone mention the Dodge Challenger SRT8 392 in the same friggen sentence as the C7 Corvette? You gotta be sh*ttin' me!
and they call themselves "experts".
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I twill have not trouble with the Porsche Cayman and the Dodge, but the Shelby GT500 will be a real task as well as the ZL1 and I am not sure it will be capable of running with those as for the Viper and the Porsche 911 GT or the Turbo, it will not stand a chance. The ZR1 was just slightly quicker then the Viper. Brand loyalty is one thing, but reality is another.
Meh.. The ZL1 corners at 1.07G which is better than the GT500. I would bet the C7 will exceed that easily given it's weight, suspension and weight distribution. It's really a no brainer.

Sure their 0-60 times might be better which will help them out of a hole coming out of the corner but I'd still expect the Z51 C7 to beat either of them on any road course. When the Z models arrive, they will be seeing nothing but C7 tail lights regardless of the straights.

Either way, even if the ZL1 or the GT500 can beat the C7, that won't detur me. I don't care for the Camaro and won't own a mustang regardless of how fast it is.

That said, comparing the base model C7 to the top of the line maxed out Camaro of Mustang isn't really a fair comparison regarless of price. They are both pigs in comparison regardless of how fast they are 0-60. If you put that kind of power into a C7, you have a bonified rocket. In short, having that much power in a Camaro or Mustang is nothing short of putting lipstick on a PIG!


Originally Posted by ck9887
Just posted in another thread, take a look at this link and look at the lap time of the ZL1.
Looks like the C7 might have some trouble with the ZL1.

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...r-times-page-8
Interesting. I'm surprised they don't have C6 times in there. No doubt GM did a great job on the ZL1. I'd still expect them to raise the bar with the C7. Time will tell, but one could only assume that the C7 will have to raise the bar. Funny though that the GT500 trails the ZL1 in every review I have read. Hats of to GM but bet your a$$ the C7 Z models will raise some serious eyebrows!

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Originally Posted by b4i4getit
Check out this article.

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/201...-and-info-news

Seems like Car and Driver does not see the C7 competition as Viper or Porshce 911 but less exotic cars. This is not a good thing considering these cars cost less money.

Top Competitors
Porsche Cayman
Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 coupe
Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
in straight line, Mustang and Camaro are faster, on road course, Cayman will outrun it, good thing there is Challenger that hopefully C7 can own all around.

Hopefully this thing will outhandle and outrun C6 Z51 base with NPP, if it does not, maybe it can compete against Civic.
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Originally Posted by ck9887
Well, this new C7 won't be up to par with the new Viper or 911 performance wise... Not until we see a C7 Z.
More like IF
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What???? Not sure if it will be capable on running with a GT500 or the ZL1? Maybe not in a quarter mile but on a road course, I'd beg to differ. Even so, I'd bet the C7 would give either of those two a run for their money in the quarter mile. Especially with the average driver. We all know the C7 will handle it's power better than either of those cars especially given the weight distribution, traction control and suspension.

As for the Viper or the 911GT or the Turbo, I'd bet on a road course it will be closer than you think. Even still, the base C7 or Z51 probably wasn't setting it's sights on a Viper or a 911GT let alone Porsche Turbo. That will be the job of a Z06 or ZR1 varient which you can bet will raise the bar substantially over the C6 in terms of overall performance and handling.

You can be skeptical but I on the other hand am very confident.
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Given all the cars on that list, I think I would rather drive the Corvette.

Three of those cars are muscle cars, plain and simple. While they have more grunt under the hood than the C7 (at this time), they just don't seem to have alot to offer other than burning 'em off at stoplights. As for the Cayman, well, a little visit to the Porsche website, and it really appears to be a little anemic compared to the C7. It really doesn't seem to bring anything to the table that the Corvette doesn't have. I would think that the Cayman would be wanting for a little more power to keep up on the track. I think the Vette is more in 911 territory by looking at Porsche specs.

So I would have to agree that this comparison was probably based more on est. MSRP than performance. And at $60K+/- it would appear to me that the Corvette offers a bit more for the money. But as anything, that is purely subjective according to what one looks for in a sports car.
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in straight line, Mustang and Camaro are faster, on road course, Cayman will outrun it, good thing there is Challenger that hopefully C7 can own all around.

Hopefully this thing will outhandle and outrun C6 Z51 base with NPP, if it does not, maybe it can compete against Civic.
The C7 z51 shouldn't have a problem with any on that list minus the 1/4 mile with the GT500.
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Originally Posted by Davy_Baby9
The C7 z51 shouldn't have a problem with any on that list minus the 1/4 mile with the GT500.
Besides the Challenger, doubtful but C7 does deserve a benefit of the doubt.
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