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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gthal
This is a pre-production car. Some if the show cars don't even have an interior installed!

Reports are the interior is much improved quality wise and looks wise alone is WAY better than previous versions. Proof will be in the actual production version. From the two people I know who saw the car in person, they said the interior did look much improved based on what they could see.

But hey, let's have a "world is falling apart" discussion on the interior because of a few Internet pictures of a pre-production car. The rear end has been beaten to death so lets move on to something else like the bad quality interior
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 02:58 PM
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I'm appalled at the lack of craftsmanship on this yet to be produced vehicle!
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ok, having owned numerous leather interiors, including Mercedes, and currently two Lexus vehicles, along with my 2008 Z06, I looked again at them. I doubt you can find a leather interior that is perfectly done. My Mercedes wear was worse than my three Corvettes I've owned, and cracked just as badly, even though I know it was higher quality leather. My Lexus cars are better than the Mercedes, but even they have some leather issues and stitching issues. My understanding with the C7 seats is that the same manufacturer that does the seats for Porsche is doing the Corvette seats. If you don't buy the car because it only has double helix stitching instead of triple helix, well, that's your loss IMO, but hey, if it's that important to you then more power to you. All of us Corvette people need to understand (and most do) that you can't build a sports car for the price of a Corvette that will be the equal in every quality to a $150,000 to $2 Million dollar sports car. The seats are definitely better than ever, and I am very pleased at GM's efforts to upgrade the interior without a lot of price increase. If you like the car buy it. If you don't, and you already own a Corvette, keep the one you have. If you don't own a Corvette (Hmmm, take a look at the complainer) and you don't like the Corvette, what are you even doing on here, even if you aren't a hater or troll?
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 04_Z06_CE
I'am rotting for the vette too, but if your expecting quality from GM your sadlyy mistaken.
By the time your done ROTTING, the C8 will be out.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by stevelischynsky
Flame away, but it's good to have someone on the forum who can claim that they know the difference between good and bad stitching.

It may not make a difference to most of us, but at least we can be made aware of differences in quality.

So, those that claim being knowledgeable in certain fields such as leather fabrication, don't be bashfull and keep us informed.

Steve L
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What? You can put any car in the world under a microscope and find flaws.

This is getting ridiculous!
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gthal
Can I get some of the stuff you are smoking?

Regardless of the quality people think they see or don't see in these pre-production photos (we'll know for sure when real cars start showing up), the interior is WAY ahead of any Corvette before it. It may not be perfect but it is a huge improvement nonetheless.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GmdVT
It really disturbs me that GM seems to be using only a double helix stitching pattern in those photos where as the more posh European interiors (BMW, Porsche, etc) use a triple helix pattern for superior strength and style. I can also see it appears that the crinkles and creases in the leather are most likely due to only steaming the material at 30C (probably for cost savings) instead of 42C like the Euro counterpoints. Really **** poor quality job by GM, looks identical to the C6 interior imo.
LMAO! I hope you are being sarcastic. If anything could be steamed at 30C (86F) or 42C (108F) you better get ready for a new generation of steam power and start buying shares in any company that sells water that will boil those temps.
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Originally Posted by tome
Keep in mind the seats are delivered to GM "ready" to install into the vehicle. What I find interesting is that since they are made by Lear, and Lear makes Porsche seats, why wouldn't the Corvette seats have exactly the same assembly quality? I would certainly think that Lear would want their best looking seat go in a show/intro car. GM will certainly need to remind Lear of the quality expected.
Agreed, but I'm sure there are different price points that Lear charges for a certain level of quality. GM may have chosen 1 step down from a Porsche seat. JMO.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Oh my, I think I saw an area where one of the stitches didn't look quite straight. And it looks like a double helix! Now what do we do?

Sadly, now I can't buy this car.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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Now Now don't go getting all the rose colored glasses crowd upset. gm can do no
wrong and the vette is a second coming
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Originally Posted by mike85mph
ok, having owned numerous leather interiors, including Mercedes, and currently two Lexus vehicles, along with my 2008 Z06, I looked again at them. I doubt you can find a leather interior that is perfectly done. My Mercedes wear was worse than my three Corvettes I've owned, and cracked just as badly, even though I know it was higher quality leather. My Lexus cars are better than the Mercedes, but even they have some leather issues and stitching issues. My understanding with the C7 seats is that the same manufacturer that does the seats for Porsche is doing the Corvette seats. If you don't buy the car because it only has double helix stitching instead of triple helix, well, that's your loss IMO, but hey, if it's that important to you then more power to you. All of us Corvette people need to understand (and most do) that you can't build a sports car for the price of a Corvette that will be the equal in every quality to a $150,000 to $2 Million dollar sports car. The seats are definitely better than ever, and I am very pleased at GM's efforts to upgrade the interior without a lot of price increase. If you like the car buy it. If you don't, and you already own a Corvette, keep the one you have. If you don't own a Corvette (Hmmm, take a look at the complainer) and you don't like the Corvette, what are you even doing on here, even if you aren't a hater or troll?
Well said...it might help to remember:

A ) For around $60k no other sports car offers this level of content and performance.

B ) We wonder how they do it at this price point

C ) Yet some people here feel the features and performance still aren't enough, they want every last detail to equal those cars costing tens of thousands more, but still at the low price point


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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:32 PM
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Mercedes, the best or nothing. Porsche, xcellence was expected.

Corvette, meh, good enough, the customers don't know the difference. If they do, let um bring it back, maybe we can fix it. (My Z06, i bought new, leaks water on the drivers side. Had it *fixed* 3 times, still leaks water) Should have lemoned lawed it. Along with leaking axles, broke valve spring

I put up with the crap, because I loved the power. But GM quality control is ****.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Wake me when this thread is over................
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by y2kvett
I noticed some of this as well.
Isn't this model a prototype? I'm sure the production models will have better quality control...especially after this thread!

Agree. A prototype is not a "show car". That car very likely has been a test mule as well and has been rode hard and put up wet more than once.
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Old Mar 8, 2013 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by GmdVT
This is a joke right?
From Ike with 15 posts in how long?
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Remember when we saw them sewing the interior before the introduction. It was in black and white, now they have to figure out how to accomplish it in color. Must be a challenge.
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Originally Posted by GmdVT
You guys are terrible at detecting sarcasm!!! I don't even know what the hell a double/triple helix stitch is I just made it up, same with the steaming.
LOL - this is the funniest part of this thread. Yes, the guys in here are super keyed up...shoot, they're wound so tight they....well, I won't go there... You'd think some of you would have clued in at the "30C steam".

The OP does have a point though, in that the stitching is clearly uneven. Given the poor quality pic, I would expect this is more obvious in person. I would also expect GM to put their best foot forward on a show car, which this is not. So that is a bit concerning.

On the other hand - some of you are stone cold nuts. It is ridiculous and delusional to expect (1) the same level of quality out of a $60,000 mass-produced car that you would out of a $300,000 car (2) expect that the C7 will miraculously be this giant leap forward in materials and assembly quality over the prior cars. The workers are the same, the suppliers are the same, the production budget is the same, so one should expect more of... the same. C6 materials were a bit better than C5, and I would expect modest improvements in C7. But this will not be a Bentley interior. I personally think that the Corvette interiors are fine given the cheap price of the car. Honestly, I like that they are not so nice that I am concerned about carefully maintaining them. The only thing we really needed was better lateral support, and GM has responded to this as far as I can tell.

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Originally Posted by BlueOx
The OP is correct. Look at the seat back. It is riddled with holes! Holes I tell you. You would think for this price they would be able to get a solid piece of leather and not one compromised with holes. There are so many it almost looks intentional.
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The OP is correct. Look at the seat back. It is riddled with holes! Holes I tell you. You would think for this price they would be able to get a solid piece of leather and not one compromised with holes. There are so many it almost looks intentional.
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Originally Posted by 1965markaccount
The OP is correct. Look at the seat back. It is riddled with holes! Holes I tell you. You would think for this price they would be able to get a solid piece of leather and not one compromised with holes. There are so many it almost looks intentional.
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