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Old 03-19-2013, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by petermj
Wow, considering lack of actual info about car's specs and performance, he is beyond dumb. This portion of the introduction should be left to the car, letting the car speak for itself. Hopefully he designs cars better than he presents them.
Like you could do it any better.

What it points out to me is that he has enough inside info and experience with the C7 that it is just obvious to him how obsolete it makes the C6 and he let that slip. It certainly shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the brand new C7 makes an old design obsolete.
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Originally Posted by Bill17601
he said “it takes almost no time in a C7 before you realize the C6 is obsolete.” Tadge also claims the Corvette Stingray will be the highest volume car with standard carbon panels.

Quote from Sebring

He was speaking about the new technology not the car itself.
I would expext him to say that. Thats what he has to sell now.

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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Not doubting that he said it, I just wanted to hear it in context.
I did not take offense. I thought you had a good question. I tend to not write enough thinking people know what I am saying, which is crazy on my part.LOL
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:38 PM
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Evidently some C6 owners are dumb enough to not realize the C7 does indeed make the C6 obsolete. People will still buy new C6's.
So are you saying LS3 made LS2 obsolete? If I recall, you drive LS2 car

Not to mention many current C5 owners, ask them how obsolete C5 feels to them when compared to C6. Improved maybe but it would take either an AWD drive or rear mounted mid engine with less than 3k weight to make any of the C5 and C6 cars obsolete.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by petermj
Until the car can be tested, nothing should be obvious.
It has been...by team Corvette. And that is the point. He knows just how obsolete it makes the C6 already. BTW, there are a lot more ways to make the C6 obsolete than just road tests.
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Originally Posted by petermj
So are you saying LS3 made LS2 obsolete? If I recall, you drive LS2 car

Not to mention many current C5 owners, ask them how obsolete C5 feels to them when compared to C6. Improved maybe but it would take either an AWD drive or rear mounted mid engine with less than 3k weight to make any of the C5 and C6 cars obsolete.
So he is saying the ZR-1 is junk now? Sting ray is better and everyone that paid $125K for a ZR-1 is a fool for owning that out dated piece of junk?
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Like you could do it any better.

What it points out to me is that he has enough inside info and experience with the C7 that it is just obvious to him how obsolete it makes the C6 and he let that slip. It certainly shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that the brand new C7 makes an old design obsolete.
I'm sorry, considering that even the weight of this apparently revolutionary vette has not been released, the only thing he accomplishes is coming across as a complete arrogant idiot.

GM would be better off running some informercials hiring people more skilled to spread BS around, too bad Billy Mays OD'ed on white powder, he would be a perfect fit.
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Old 03-19-2013, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
It has been...by team Corvette. And that is the point. He knows just how obsolete it makes the C6 already. BTW, there are a lot more ways to make the C6 obsolete than just road tests.
curb weight and SAE rated power FTW for you Where are these things? Did I miss the memo? Feel free to throw in actual 0-60, skidpad, braking distance and ET while you are at it.
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Originally Posted by petermj
Until the car can be tested, nothing should be obvious.
The C7 has been tested for months so I think he knows what he is talking about.
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Originally Posted by Torch2013C6
So he is saying the ZR-1 is junk now? Sting ray is better and everyone that paid $125K for a ZR-1 is a fool for owning that out dated piece of junk?
Apparently so. C7 is the bees knees and they've been had.
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Originally Posted by petermj
I'm sorry, considering that even the weight of this apparently revolutionary vette has not been released, the only thing he accomplishes is coming across as a complete arrogant idiot.

GM would be better off running some informercials hiring people more skilled to spread BS around, too bad Billy Mays OD'ed on white powder, he would be a perfect fit.
Well, he's doing a heck of a lot better than you as an auto engineer. AND his presentations in front of a ton of live audiences and the press are a heck of a lot better than anything you've done here on CF.
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Originally Posted by michaelinmech
Thanks Tadge - it's really a great feeling to know that you see my brand new C6 as obsolete . . . you really know how to make a Corvette customer feel special
Lets not forget all the nice folks that purchased ZR-1s at $125K a pop this year. So what is he saying here, Sorry you fools you now own an old out dated piece of junk. The base C7 is better??? He should learn to keep is pie hole shut.
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Originally Posted by Corvette ED
The C7 has been tested for months so I think he knows what he is talking about.
As I said, let us start with the WEIGHT and SAE power. You and he forgets that others may want to see some substance behind the assurances.
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Hopefully due to his comment they go down more and more and I can score a 13 ZR1 on the cheap!
The ZR1 is going to be the best Vette to date until there is a C7Z.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Well, he's doing a heck of a lot better than you as an auto engineer. AND his presentations in front of a ton of live audiences and the press are a heck of a lot better than anything you've done here on CF.
Love is blind and common sense unnecessary-thanks for proving it as usual.
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Originally Posted by Turbooo2u
The ZR1 is going to be the best Vette to date until there is a C7Z.
If this guy is allowed to speak in public more, there may not be any C7Z or any corvette period.
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Originally Posted by Corvette ED
The C7 has been tested for months so I think he knows what he is talking about.
You mean you have a C6 avatar AND you realize this? ED, you're alright in my book. PM me your address and I'll send you some beer money, cause I want to buy you one after your refreshing retort.
How much longer will people play the "we don't anything at all" with the C7? Because that blast to Starbucks from your driveway definitely puts the car through its true paces.
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Originally Posted by BlueOx
Evidently some C6 owners are dumb enough to not realize the C7 does indeed make the C6 obsolete. People will still buy new C6's.
And evidently, some (not all of us) prospective C7 owners are dumb enough to accept the market hype as gospel before the car is even out. This is a car, not a jet fighter. The base car will move to C6 Z51 performance, and the Z51 will match the GS. Neother C6 will be obsolete. Meanwhile, any C6 Z06 or 427 Vert will continue to mop the floor with any C7 until a Z06 equivalent is released. You can mutter about obsolescence as you watch those Z06 or ZR-1 tail lights disappearing over the horizon.

Is the C7 a better car than the C6? Yes, as long as the quality is no worse. Does it make the C6 obsolete? No.

Now, that we've cleared all that up, you can return to the Kool-Aide vat Blue Ox .
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I must be really stupid I still love every mile in my C3!
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Obsolete =
"no longer in use or no longer useful" -
"outmoded in design, style, or construction" -
"of a discarded or outmoded type; out of date" -

If I were shopping for a new C6 right now, I would take a copy of Tadge's video and these definitions of Obsolete along with me to the dealer for negotiating.

If I had just purchased a new C6 and wanted my money back, I would take the same to the dealer and demand a full refund.

There are hundreds of word choices for Tadge to use in describing the leaps of improvement engineered into the C7 - none of which require rendering the current model on sale "obsolete", and kicking current owners of the same in the groin . . . .
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