Why complain when you could just buy something esle?
04-22-2013, 02:17 AM
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I complain because:
I am hoping GM will read these posts and realize that they need to offer the OPTIONS of AWD and DCT ASAP.
I love the LSx and Corvette.
I don't want to buy an import.
I'm a loyal Corvette buyer for almost 20 years who keeps being told to spend $100k+ on a foreign car.
And people wonder why their neighbors are under/unemployed and their 401k is in the toilet.
I am hoping GM will read these posts and realize that they need to offer the OPTIONS of AWD and DCT ASAP.
I love the LSx and Corvette.
I don't want to buy an import.
I'm a loyal Corvette buyer for almost 20 years who keeps being told to spend $100k+ on a foreign car.
And people wonder why their neighbors are under/unemployed and their 401k is in the toilet.
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04-22-2013, 02:23 AM
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Chevy can add whatever they think is best as long as the vette reminds affordable by most and dollar for dollar the best sports car money can buy!
04-22-2013, 02:35 AM
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Nothing is perfect. I can give you a list of what's wrong with the Ferrari 458 and why it's still one of the best cars on the road.
Replacing my aging Maserati Cambiocorsa spyder for a C7 convertible. Time marches on.
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04-22-2013, 04:12 AM
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I couldn't agree more with the OP. The reason they complain loudly is they are charter members of the something for nothing cheap F --- crowd. The vette is the best street sports supercar in the world period. It also happens to be the best bang for the buck by far.
04-22-2013, 07:13 AM
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Yes it will be my first Corvette. The previous versions never interested me one bit. I had thought about potentially buying a 2007 Z06, but hated the interior and lack of exotic styling, so I spent more $ and bought a 2006 Lamborghini Gallardo instead.
Fast forward to today, I only have 8600 miles on it, but its currently in the shop awaiting a new E-Gear actuator that is going to cost $16-18K to replace, and that's when the part will actually come in which isn't until June or so.
I'm sick of the high maintenance, and expensive repair bills, and the fact I can't even fart in the seat without thinking it resulted in a depreciation hit.
When I saw the new C7, I knew it was finally time to buy an American sports car.. GM did it for me this time. Glad my order is placed, can't wait to sell the Gallardo.
Fast forward to today, I only have 8600 miles on it, but its currently in the shop awaiting a new E-Gear actuator that is going to cost $16-18K to replace, and that's when the part will actually come in which isn't until June or so.
I'm sick of the high maintenance, and expensive repair bills, and the fact I can't even fart in the seat without thinking it resulted in a depreciation hit.
When I saw the new C7, I knew it was finally time to buy an American sports car.. GM did it for me this time. Glad my order is placed, can't wait to sell the Gallardo.
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04-22-2013, 07:15 AM
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Trolls especially love iconic brand releases to cause havoc and insult from a keyboard.
This forum just happens to be the 7th generation corvette.
This forum just happens to be the 7th generation corvette.
04-22-2013, 07:21 AM
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I complain because:
I am hoping GM will read these posts and realize that they need to offer the OPTIONS of AWD and DCT ASAP.
I love the LSx and Corvette.
I don't want to buy an import.
I'm a loyal Corvette buyer for almost 20 years who keeps being told to spend $100k+ on a foreign car.
And people wonder why their neighbors are under/unemployed and their 401k is in the toilet.
I am hoping GM will read these posts and realize that they need to offer the OPTIONS of AWD and DCT ASAP.
I love the LSx and Corvette.
I don't want to buy an import.
I'm a loyal Corvette buyer for almost 20 years who keeps being told to spend $100k+ on a foreign car.
And people wonder why their neighbors are under/unemployed and their 401k is in the toilet.
GM designed and built the C7 with a lot of parameters we can only speculate about. We don't know what it takes to add features, how much engineering time, what it truly costs, and if they can make money on it. If they thought the features you are asking for would offer some significant benefit to their bottom line you could bet they would very likely do it.
The Corvette is only one car in the GM lineup and even though it is significant as far as brand image is concerned it is not a substantial source of revenue or profit. Their design and marketing efforts along with their engineering time and are better spent making sure the Silverado, Cruze, ,Malibu, and the rest of their high volume vehicles are successes in the marketplace.
We can focus on what they have done right or we can focus on what they did wrong. The difference is the "glass half full" crowd will be much happier than the "glass half empty" crowd. Easy choice!
04-22-2013, 07:39 AM
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Naw, I think I get it.
Really, think about it for a second. This car was originally slated to be introduced in what, 2010? The C7 Discussion forum has been here since, I believe 2006, or something close to that?
The build up and anticipation of this car has building for over a half decade. This is the Corvette afterall, not your typical, run of the mill Cadillac or Buick or Malibu. 60 years and this is only the seventh generation of design. So it's big for alot of people. Many of us grew up either around Corvettes or wishing we were. There is alot of passion involved with this American Icon. If I worked as a designer, and GM said, okay, you design the next Corvette, I would probably faint under that pressure.
Our first clue, real or fancied, was the "Stingray" from the Transormers movie. Y'all remember those days around here? That was around the time we thought we were going to see a new Corvette. I'd bet, that much of this design was already on the table at that time, until it got delayed. If you really look at this car, and the concept, you can clearly see that the concept was the base form this car was designed from. Down to those beautiful tail lights. If this car had been revealed then, at the peak of the concept hype, it would've been much more well received, IMO.
So, for about a half decade or more, the expectations, hopes, dreams and fears of the next Corvette have been building up. Then it finally comes out, and for some, well, there's just no way it could meet some of these expectations. For others, it exceeded them. But, yes, this car envokes passion. I can understand that many are dissapointed. So they vent their frustration in the one place they know. Look, we gotta take the good with bad. I like it, but really, I can understand where some wouldn't. I don't mind them saying so, it's nothing personal to me when they do. Even if they try to make it personal.
But if this car performs the way GM preaches, this will turn around, I believe. As more and more are out in the streets, frustrations will fade, acceptance will set in, and perhaps turn into appreciation. So vent, this is the Corvette Forum, the one thing we share is the passion for this great American Car. And they're all beautiful in their own unique way, IMHO.
Really, think about it for a second. This car was originally slated to be introduced in what, 2010? The C7 Discussion forum has been here since, I believe 2006, or something close to that?
The build up and anticipation of this car has building for over a half decade. This is the Corvette afterall, not your typical, run of the mill Cadillac or Buick or Malibu. 60 years and this is only the seventh generation of design. So it's big for alot of people. Many of us grew up either around Corvettes or wishing we were. There is alot of passion involved with this American Icon. If I worked as a designer, and GM said, okay, you design the next Corvette, I would probably faint under that pressure.
Our first clue, real or fancied, was the "Stingray" from the Transormers movie. Y'all remember those days around here? That was around the time we thought we were going to see a new Corvette. I'd bet, that much of this design was already on the table at that time, until it got delayed. If you really look at this car, and the concept, you can clearly see that the concept was the base form this car was designed from. Down to those beautiful tail lights. If this car had been revealed then, at the peak of the concept hype, it would've been much more well received, IMO.
So, for about a half decade or more, the expectations, hopes, dreams and fears of the next Corvette have been building up. Then it finally comes out, and for some, well, there's just no way it could meet some of these expectations. For others, it exceeded them. But, yes, this car envokes passion. I can understand that many are dissapointed. So they vent their frustration in the one place they know. Look, we gotta take the good with bad. I like it, but really, I can understand where some wouldn't. I don't mind them saying so, it's nothing personal to me when they do. Even if they try to make it personal.
But if this car performs the way GM preaches, this will turn around, I believe. As more and more are out in the streets, frustrations will fade, acceptance will set in, and perhaps turn into appreciation. So vent, this is the Corvette Forum, the one thing we share is the passion for this great American Car. And they're all beautiful in their own unique way, IMHO.
As for those who make comments like "they can't afford it" and "grandpas car", you guys are real idiots! It's obviously apparent that most of the guys who like the C7 are not able to accept those who question certain aspects of the vehicle. Why you all get so defensive over something inanimate is kind of funny!
And as for coming here to discuss it, well it's the topic on the table just like the NBA playoffs are right now! We won't be talking NBA when the baseball playoffs start etc.
04-22-2013, 07:49 AM
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04-22-2013, 08:10 AM
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I was thinking of writing a post similar to this but Ed1 beat me to it.
This is supposed to be a Corvette enthusiast site...what's with all the negative posts? Almost makes me wonder if a lot of these a really just guys who never owned a Corvette, created an account, and are trolling to give us a hard time (a bunch of Ricers or Eurotrashers trying to 'stir the pot').
This is supposed to be a Corvette enthusiast site...what's with all the negative posts? Almost makes me wonder if a lot of these a really just guys who never owned a Corvette, created an account, and are trolling to give us a hard time (a bunch of Ricers or Eurotrashers trying to 'stir the pot').
04-22-2013, 08:24 AM
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After hours of gawking, poking and prodding at Barrett Jackson a few weeks ago I'm hooked, just wished more people hated it so I could get a better deal... and maybe be able to afford a decent restaurant.
04-22-2013, 08:41 AM
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Are you some of you really this freakin sensitive that we cant even talk about the car ? its not perfect to some us and this is a greta place to share our thoghts.
Stupid thread by OP who seems butt hurt due to all the critisicm the C7 is getting. This is a forum where car discussion is allowed. Stop being a baby
Stupid thread by OP who seems butt hurt due to all the critisicm the C7 is getting. This is a forum where car discussion is allowed. Stop being a baby
04-22-2013, 09:03 AM
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Burning Brakes
Because they cant afford it.
Money talk, BS walks. And theres ALOT of walking going on in the C7 forum.
Excellent point btw the way. If you want all these technology, then go buy it. Nothing is stopping you but the cash. People like me, on the hand, are realistic about what we can afford and see a $55k C7 for exactly what it is. The best bang for the buck performance car of any new model. I cant name another car within a $50,000 margin to the 2014 Stingray that offers the same or better amount of technology, performance & looks. GTR is about as close as it gets, but it costs $100k and is MUCH uglier.
Expect alot of haters to turn into C7 owners when the Stingray finally hits the streets. It will be much harder to deny the truth when it pulls up beside whatever you are currently riding in.
Money talk, BS walks. And theres ALOT of walking going on in the C7 forum.
Excellent point btw the way. If you want all these technology, then go buy it. Nothing is stopping you but the cash. People like me, on the hand, are realistic about what we can afford and see a $55k C7 for exactly what it is. The best bang for the buck performance car of any new model. I cant name another car within a $50,000 margin to the 2014 Stingray that offers the same or better amount of technology, performance & looks. GTR is about as close as it gets, but it costs $100k and is MUCH uglier.
Expect alot of haters to turn into C7 owners when the Stingray finally hits the streets. It will be much harder to deny the truth when it pulls up beside whatever you are currently riding in.
Most of the people who are complaining can't afford those cars on this list. End of story.I like Lambo's and was going to buy a used one, BUT, maintenance costs are sky high and the cars are really not DD's. They are strictly weekenders... The C7 fills the needs of most people. Could it have 500-600 hp? Yes, but not in the base car 1st year, later years most likely... It's ok to dream of what you think should be in the C7, but you have to keep your feet on the ground if you want to buy one and not bitch about what the car doesn't have. If you don't like it, your free to buy something else......
04-22-2013, 09:09 AM
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My questiin is what makes people think C6 owners can't purchase a C7? It's not luke the car cost half a million! I have a C6 & still enjoy my car regardless of what C7 huggers believe. Unless the C7 is a monster performer, I will be a 911 turbo or GTR owner. People should drive what they like, I will & give a crap what the next guy likes, thinks or drives.
04-22-2013, 09:32 AM
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The ONLY reason people are telling you to buy a foreign car is because of the constant complaining. They are sick of hearing it and just want you to go away. No one likes to listen to someone whine all the time, it gets real old. If you like your current car, keep it and be happy.
GM designed and built the C7 with a lot of parameters we can only speculate about. We don't know what it takes to add features, how much engineering time, what it truly costs, and if they can make money on it. If they thought the features you are asking for would offer some significant benefit to their bottom line you could bet they would very likely do it.
The Corvette is only one car in the GM lineup and even though it is significant as far as brand image is concerned it is not a substantial source of revenue or profit. Their design and marketing efforts along with their engineering time and are better spent making sure the Silverado, Cruze, ,Malibu, and the rest of their high volume vehicles are successes in the marketplace.
We can focus on what they have done right or we can focus on what they did wrong. The difference is the "glass half full" crowd will be much happier than the "glass half empty" crowd. Easy choice!
GM designed and built the C7 with a lot of parameters we can only speculate about. We don't know what it takes to add features, how much engineering time, what it truly costs, and if they can make money on it. If they thought the features you are asking for would offer some significant benefit to their bottom line you could bet they would very likely do it.
The Corvette is only one car in the GM lineup and even though it is significant as far as brand image is concerned it is not a substantial source of revenue or profit. Their design and marketing efforts along with their engineering time and are better spent making sure the Silverado, Cruze, ,Malibu, and the rest of their high volume vehicles are successes in the marketplace.
We can focus on what they have done right or we can focus on what they did wrong. The difference is the "glass half full" crowd will be much happier than the "glass half empty" crowd. Easy choice!
Jimmy
04-22-2013, 10:29 AM
#36
Do you really stand by this? How do you KNOW what anybody here can afford? Does it make you feel better THINKING that they can't but you can? Perhaps they can't afford it, or maybe even their next meal, does it also make you feel better to stick that in their face too?
04-22-2013, 10:33 AM
#37
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Naw, I think I get it.
Really, think about it for a second. This car was originally slated to be introduced in what, 2010? The C7 Discussion forum has been here since, I believe 2006, or something close to that?
The build up and anticipation of this car has building for over a half decade. This is the Corvette afterall, not your typical, run of the mill Cadillac or Buick or Malibu. 60 years and this is only the seventh generation of design. So it's big for alot of people. Many of us grew up either around Corvettes or wishing we were. There is alot of passion involved with this American Icon. If I worked as a designer, and GM said, okay, you design the next Corvette, I would probably faint under that pressure.
Our first clue, real or fancied, was the "Stingray" from the Transormers movie. Y'all remember those days around here? That was around the time we thought we were going to see a new Corvette. I'd bet, that much of this design was already on the table at that time, until it got delayed. If you really look at this car, and the concept, you can clearly see that the concept was the base form this car was designed from. Down to those beautiful tail lights. If this car had been revealed then, at the peak of the concept hype, it would've been much more well received, IMO.
So, for about a half decade or more, the expectations, hopes, dreams and fears of the next Corvette have been building up. Then it finally comes out, and for some, well, there's just no way it could meet some of these expectations. For others, it exceeded them. But, yes, this car envokes passion. I can understand that many are dissapointed. So they vent their frustration in the one place they know. Look, we gotta take the good with bad. I like it, but really, I can understand where some wouldn't. I don't mind them saying so, it's nothing personal to me when they do. Even if they try to make it personal.
But if this car performs the way GM preaches, this will turn around, I believe. As more and more are out in the streets, frustrations will fade, acceptance will set in, and perhaps turn into appreciation. So vent, this is the Corvette Forum, the one thing we share is the passion for this great American Car. And they're all beautiful in their own unique way, IMHO.
Really, think about it for a second. This car was originally slated to be introduced in what, 2010? The C7 Discussion forum has been here since, I believe 2006, or something close to that?
The build up and anticipation of this car has building for over a half decade. This is the Corvette afterall, not your typical, run of the mill Cadillac or Buick or Malibu. 60 years and this is only the seventh generation of design. So it's big for alot of people. Many of us grew up either around Corvettes or wishing we were. There is alot of passion involved with this American Icon. If I worked as a designer, and GM said, okay, you design the next Corvette, I would probably faint under that pressure.
Our first clue, real or fancied, was the "Stingray" from the Transormers movie. Y'all remember those days around here? That was around the time we thought we were going to see a new Corvette. I'd bet, that much of this design was already on the table at that time, until it got delayed. If you really look at this car, and the concept, you can clearly see that the concept was the base form this car was designed from. Down to those beautiful tail lights. If this car had been revealed then, at the peak of the concept hype, it would've been much more well received, IMO.
So, for about a half decade or more, the expectations, hopes, dreams and fears of the next Corvette have been building up. Then it finally comes out, and for some, well, there's just no way it could meet some of these expectations. For others, it exceeded them. But, yes, this car envokes passion. I can understand that many are dissapointed. So they vent their frustration in the one place they know. Look, we gotta take the good with bad. I like it, but really, I can understand where some wouldn't. I don't mind them saying so, it's nothing personal to me when they do. Even if they try to make it personal.
But if this car performs the way GM preaches, this will turn around, I believe. As more and more are out in the streets, frustrations will fade, acceptance will set in, and perhaps turn into appreciation. So vent, this is the Corvette Forum, the one thing we share is the passion for this great American Car. And they're all beautiful in their own unique way, IMHO.
Completely forgot about the Stingray Concept in the Transformers movie. Shows exactly where the production 2014 C7 came from.
04-22-2013, 10:40 AM
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I don't "HATE" the C7.
"The people who hate on it are simply stopping by to rain on our parade and make themselves feel better about owning yesterday's car that Grandpa likes showing off at his local Corvette club meeting at Denny's."
Is that not the same trash talking?
I thought owning a Corvette (regardless of year or model) was a Brotherhood.
Some of you (us) them, whoever, need to remember what owning a Corvette is all about. Next thing you know, Ferrari and Lamborghini owners are talking trash about you C7 owners because you just couldn't afford a more premium sports car, in the "exotic" lineup. Then again, you will come back with..."Why pay all that for this... and save thousands..." Is it not the same? A Corvette C6 will never be a Corvette C7. But then again, a C7 will never be a Ferrari, Veyron, LSF or Koe****segg. So, what's your point?
"The people who hate on it are simply stopping by to rain on our parade and make themselves feel better about owning yesterday's car that Grandpa likes showing off at his local Corvette club meeting at Denny's."
Is that not the same trash talking?
I thought owning a Corvette (regardless of year or model) was a Brotherhood.
Some of you (us) them, whoever, need to remember what owning a Corvette is all about. Next thing you know, Ferrari and Lamborghini owners are talking trash about you C7 owners because you just couldn't afford a more premium sports car, in the "exotic" lineup. Then again, you will come back with..."Why pay all that for this... and save thousands..." Is it not the same? A Corvette C6 will never be a Corvette C7. But then again, a C7 will never be a Ferrari, Veyron, LSF or Koe****segg. So, what's your point?
And I jumped on a sweet closeout deal too for 20k off MSRP on a GS coupe, and when they fix the issues and shortcomings on the C7 in later years of production I will buy a model above the base coupe in performance for under invoice. The base coupe numbers were just a real letdown performance wise
04-22-2013, 10:43 AM
#39
Burning Brakes
Yes, I stand by it. There are two kinds of people who are mostly in this forum. The complainers and the people who will buy the car. Personally, I don't care what people say about the C7. I'm buying it. But if your on this forum then that means you like Vettes. If you like them, you already own or have owned one or maybe wanting to buy one for the first time. But if you do nothing but complain about the backend of the car, not enough hp, not this or that, go to another forum for the cars you like. GM is not going to change the way the car is because a few people are complaining. My motto is put up or shut up....
04-22-2013, 10:47 AM
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If that many people on Corvette Forum could afford $200k cars.. why are driving $50-60k Corvettes. The OP point was that technology is not free. If you want all of these features on a $50k Corvette you are living a pipe dream. You can easily have all of these features on several vehicles today (500+hp, DCT, AWD, Exotic design). The problem is the price is $200k or more.
So the answer is pretty easy. Either become alot more realistic about what you can expect on a $50-60k car. Or stop complaining about what it doesn't have and go spend $200k on the cars that do have it.