Museum delivery charges explained
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Le Mans Master
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Museum delivery charges explained
I've been asked to obtain explanation on the museum delivery cost increases, and to understand if the plaques are mandatory.
The reasoning is, there hasnt been an increase in the delivery cost in 12 years. In addition, the museum is not the recipient of the entire fee, as some may believe...GM obtains a portion. With the increase from 490 to 990, the museum will benefit further.
The plaque is "mandatory", if that's how you want to view it. Essentially, the plaque should be valued as a piece of memorabilia from the experience.
The destination fee remains, but this has nothing to do with GM or NCM, this is a mandatory fee. Lori Bieschke, Delivery Dept Manager, had to pay the same destination fee and ncm fee as anyone else would.
The bottom line, is it's a fantastic experience and it supports the museum. The museum is here for all to enjoy, and allows experiences no other car or manufacturer do. Yes, the price went up, but so do utilities, so do salaries, so do overhead costs, etc. To make the experiences like this possible, we all need to do our part.
Many people donate money to the museum for the sake of donation, with museum delivery you get a great experience for your dollar! Do it, enjoy it, and feel proud you did so!
The reasoning is, there hasnt been an increase in the delivery cost in 12 years. In addition, the museum is not the recipient of the entire fee, as some may believe...GM obtains a portion. With the increase from 490 to 990, the museum will benefit further.
The plaque is "mandatory", if that's how you want to view it. Essentially, the plaque should be valued as a piece of memorabilia from the experience.
The destination fee remains, but this has nothing to do with GM or NCM, this is a mandatory fee. Lori Bieschke, Delivery Dept Manager, had to pay the same destination fee and ncm fee as anyone else would.
The bottom line, is it's a fantastic experience and it supports the museum. The museum is here for all to enjoy, and allows experiences no other car or manufacturer do. Yes, the price went up, but so do utilities, so do salaries, so do overhead costs, etc. To make the experiences like this possible, we all need to do our part.
Many people donate money to the museum for the sake of donation, with museum delivery you get a great experience for your dollar! Do it, enjoy it, and feel proud you did so!
Last edited by RC000E; Apr 27, 2013 at 11:22 AM.
Le Mans Master
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So the public, patrons of The Louvre, Metropolitan Museum of Art, Uffizi Gallery, Museum of Modern Art, Guggenheim, and the like - they get no benefit from these museums being in existence. Only the museum owners do - that's twisted
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I've been asked to obtain explanation on the museum delivery cost increases, and to understand if the plaques are mandatory.
The reasoning is, there hasnt been an increase in the delivery cost in 12 years. In addition, the museum is not the recipient of the entire fee, as some may believe...GM obtains a portion. With the increase from 490 to 990, the museum will benefit further.
The plaque is "mandatory", if that's how you want to view it. Essentially, the plaque should be valued as a piece of memorabilia from the experience.
The destination fee remains, but this has nothing to do with GM or NCM, this is a mandatory fee. Lori Bieschke, Delivery Dept Manager, had to pay the same destination fee and ncm fee as anyone else would.
The bottom line, is it's a fantastic experience and it supports the museum. The museum is here for all to enjoy, and allows experiences no other car or manufacturer do. Yes, the price went up, but so do utilities, so do salaries, so do overhead costs, etc. To make the experiences like this possible, we all need to do our part.
Many people donate money to the museum for the sake of donation, with museum delivery you get a great experience for your dollar! Do it, enjoy it, and feel proud you did so!
The reasoning is, there hasnt been an increase in the delivery cost in 12 years. In addition, the museum is not the recipient of the entire fee, as some may believe...GM obtains a portion. With the increase from 490 to 990, the museum will benefit further.
The plaque is "mandatory", if that's how you want to view it. Essentially, the plaque should be valued as a piece of memorabilia from the experience.
The destination fee remains, but this has nothing to do with GM or NCM, this is a mandatory fee. Lori Bieschke, Delivery Dept Manager, had to pay the same destination fee and ncm fee as anyone else would.
The bottom line, is it's a fantastic experience and it supports the museum. The museum is here for all to enjoy, and allows experiences no other car or manufacturer do. Yes, the price went up, but so do utilities, so do salaries, so do overhead costs, etc. To make the experiences like this possible, we all need to do our part.
Many people donate money to the museum for the sake of donation, with museum delivery you get a great experience for your dollar! Do it, enjoy it, and feel proud you did so!
I understand that the plaque is mandatory however, there are two plaque to choose from on page 19 of the sales guide. One with NCM logo and one with Covette logo which is worded differently. The way it reads in the buyer guide is with R8C you get the plaque with NCM logo but it you take delivery at a dealership you can order the corvette logo plaque which I like better.
I want R8C but only if I get to choose my plaque with the understanding that it is $990 and comes with a plaque installed in the car.
Thanks you for all the information you have provided!!!!
Last edited by ed1; Apr 27, 2013 at 02:11 PM.
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Le Mans Master
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I only have one question regarding the plaque. Which is....Can I do a NCM delivery and get the Covette Logo plaque the say built in......?
I understand that the plaque is mandatory however, there are two plaque to choose from on page 19 of the sales guide. One with NCM logo and one with Covette logo which is worded differently. The way it reads in the buyer guide is with R8C you get the plaque with NCM logo but it you take delivery at a dealership you can order the corvette logo plaque which I like better.
I want R8C but only if I get to choose my plaque with the understanding that it is $990 and comes with a plaque installed in the car.
Thanks you for all the information you have provided!!!!
I understand that the plaque is mandatory however, there are two plaque to choose from on page 19 of the sales guide. One with NCM logo and one with Covette logo which is worded differently. The way it reads in the buyer guide is with R8C you get the plaque with NCM logo but it you take delivery at a dealership you can order the corvette logo plaque which I like better.
I want R8C but only if I get to choose my plaque with the understanding that it is $990 and comes with a plaque installed in the car.
Thanks you for all the information you have provided!!!!
I would think (imho) that Museum Delivery comes only with a Museum Logo Plaque - that's what signifies it is a Museum delivered car, distinct, exclusive and unique from cars with Plaques delivered at local dealers.
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Thank you for getting the real info.
This confirms that, as much as I support the NCM and l
loved the museum delivery both times before, I won't be doing it again.
What it boils down to is an additional $500 for a dash plaque worth about $2. This a pure profit move by GM. I doubt the NCM had any input into this change, and that's a shame. If I want to donate to the NCM, I do. I have dropped some serious coin there over the years, and am happy I did.
But this is a greedy, exploitive scam and I won't support any part of it.
It is a shame, as the NCM people are great.
I resent being treated like a sucker, and I will tell the same to any GM people I meet.
Also, I think it's a dick move to make excuses for it. Just my opinion.
This confirms that, as much as I support the NCM and l
loved the museum delivery both times before, I won't be doing it again.
What it boils down to is an additional $500 for a dash plaque worth about $2. This a pure profit move by GM. I doubt the NCM had any input into this change, and that's a shame. If I want to donate to the NCM, I do. I have dropped some serious coin there over the years, and am happy I did.
But this is a greedy, exploitive scam and I won't support any part of it.
It is a shame, as the NCM people are great.
I resent being treated like a sucker, and I will tell the same to any GM people I meet.
Also, I think it's a dick move to make excuses for it. Just my opinion.
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I suspect that the number of museum deliveries will decrease, but the money, at the end of the fiscal year, the museum will see, won't decrease.
My understanding has always been that of the $495 R8C charge, the selling dealer(not GM) receives around 60 bucks, and the remainder goes to the museum. Also, because the selling dealer is not doing the PDI, GM gives the museum the money to do the PDI(around $169, I think).
My understanding has always been that of the $495 R8C charge, the selling dealer(not GM) receives around 60 bucks, and the remainder goes to the museum. Also, because the selling dealer is not doing the PDI, GM gives the museum the money to do the PDI(around $169, I think).
Le Mans Master
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Thank you for getting the real info.
This confirms that, as much as I support the NCM and l
loved the museum delivery both times before, I won't be doing it again.
What it boils down to is an additional $500 for a dash plaque worth about $2. This a pure profit move by GM. I doubt the NCM had any input into this change, and that's a shame. If I want to donate to the NCM, I do. I have dropped some serious coin there over the years, and am happy I did.
But this is a greedy, exploitive scam and I won't support any part of it.
It is a shame, as the NCM people are great.
I resent being treated like a sucker, and I will tell the same to any GM people I meet.
Also, I think it's a dick move to make excuses for it. Just my opinion.
This confirms that, as much as I support the NCM and l
loved the museum delivery both times before, I won't be doing it again.
What it boils down to is an additional $500 for a dash plaque worth about $2. This a pure profit move by GM. I doubt the NCM had any input into this change, and that's a shame. If I want to donate to the NCM, I do. I have dropped some serious coin there over the years, and am happy I did.
But this is a greedy, exploitive scam and I won't support any part of it.
It is a shame, as the NCM people are great.
I resent being treated like a sucker, and I will tell the same to any GM people I meet.
Also, I think it's a dick move to make excuses for it. Just my opinion.
It is difficult to know whether to agree or disagree with your sentiments unless and until we know how much the Museum is benefiting from the price increase. If the vast majority of the fee is going to the Museum, than I personally am supportive. If not, well . . . . .
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When you make a donation it is tax deductible. When I pay extra for the Museum Delivery it isn't. There must have been to many Museum deliveries so they put the price up to reduce the amount. Guess what, it's working.
Le Mans Master
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No fee or donation to the Corvette Museum would be tax deductible - the Museum would not qualify for Charity status under the tax codes.
I'm thinking they did not raise the fee to reduce the amount of deliveries. I am inclined to think just the opposite - that with the new C7 introduction and the revised plant assembly operations, there will be more folks who elect Museum Delivery for 2014-2015 models to see the revised plant and take delivery of the new model there.
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I've done the Museum Delivery 4 times, and have enjoyed it each time. I would be fine with an increase of $100-$200. But I don't want a plaque with my name on it affixed to the dash. I don't want future owners to have my name on their dash, and I'm sure they wouldn't want it. I was surprised and pleased at the price of the car - I predicted $55,600. But, it bugs me that I have to pay $500 for something I don't want. 
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The $990 don't bother me as much as not being about to choose the plaque that will be displayed in my car that I have to look at every time I drive.
Some people biggest concern is weight, hp, tail lamps, etc and for me its the plaque,
Everything else I am perfectly fine with.
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yeah, I was a little surprised by the R8C price increase as well... but being that I have never been able to do this, I certainly plan on having this experience for my first new Corvette ever..
as far as the dash plaque goes, I am sure this is gonna be something which is not permanent.. I mean, how many people had their Grand Sports delivered without the stripes tacked onto the front fenders..
I think this will be one of this things we have to make certain the dealer knows in advance - do not affix any kind of plaque to the car's interior.. at least I hope this is the case..
because no, I don't need a dash plaque with my name on it reminding me this Corvette is mine..
as far as the dash plaque goes, I am sure this is gonna be something which is not permanent.. I mean, how many people had their Grand Sports delivered without the stripes tacked onto the front fenders..
I think this will be one of this things we have to make certain the dealer knows in advance - do not affix any kind of plaque to the car's interior.. at least I hope this is the case..
because no, I don't need a dash plaque with my name on it reminding me this Corvette is mine..
Le Mans Master
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This is what I am afraid of and why I asked for clarification. Have you seen the two plaque on page 19 of the sales guide. The one you can order with dealer delivery looks way better in my opinion. This is the plaque I want with R8C and they can put a door jam sticker on the car like they have in the past to signify Museum delivery.
The $990 don't bother me as much as not being about to choose the plaque that will be displayed in my car that I have to look at every time I drive.
Some people biggest concern is weight, hp, tail lamps, etc and for me its the plaque,
Everything else I am perfectly fine with.
The $990 don't bother me as much as not being about to choose the plaque that will be displayed in my car that I have to look at every time I drive.
Some people biggest concern is weight, hp, tail lamps, etc and for me its the plaque,
Everything else I am perfectly fine with.
Maybe you can plead your case both to your dealer and perhaps directly to the Museum. I understand your concern and your desire to get what you prefer. Sometimes the polite squeaky wheel gets the oil
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My pending C7 order would have been my fourth NCM delivery...but not now.
I have no interest in the plaque even at $50. I wish the NCM well and I'm glad I did their delivery, but unless they make the plaque a separate option I've done my last NCM delivery. Unfortunately, I think the current offering is going to be counterproductive and result in a smaller revenue stream for the NCM.
I have no interest in the plaque even at $50. I wish the NCM well and I'm glad I did their delivery, but unless they make the plaque a separate option I've done my last NCM delivery. Unfortunately, I think the current offering is going to be counterproductive and result in a smaller revenue stream for the NCM.
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I think it would be silly of them to rise the price not give you the option of which plaque is installed.My pending C7 order would have been my fourth NCM delivery...but not now.
I have no interest in the plaque even at $50. I wish the NCM well and I'm glad I did their delivery, but unless they make the plaque a separate option I've done my last NCM delivery. Unfortunately, I think the current offering is going to be counterproductive and result in a smaller revenue stream for the NCM.
I have no interest in the plaque even at $50. I wish the NCM well and I'm glad I did their delivery, but unless they make the plaque a separate option I've done my last NCM delivery. Unfortunately, I think the current offering is going to be counterproductive and result in a smaller revenue stream for the NCM.
When I became interested in buying a brand new corvette I said I would take Museum delivery. I can't say if I would ever do it twice.
Granted I have heard nothing great things about R8C.
Last edited by ed1; Apr 27, 2013 at 03:54 PM.