Official - 2014 Corvette Stingray Cranks Out 460 Horsepower
05-28-2013, 09:40 PM
#261
Here is a picture of the 2014 SAE LT1 Corvette sheet just released with the 2010 Camaro SAE LS3 sheet scaled to it. Nearly identical at 1000rpm then the LT1 is ~50ft-lbs stronger by 2500rpm and close to70ft-lbs by 3200rpm!
<img src="http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac301/camz28aro/LT1dynoLS31_zpsc75a5754.jpg">
<img src="http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac301/camz28aro/LT1dynoLS31_zpsc75a5754.jpg">
Last edited by Camz28arro; 05-28-2013 at 09:42 PM.
05-28-2013, 09:40 PM
#262
Don't sweat these guys, they are all back peddling as if a pride of hungry lions is approaching! They now are banking on all the BS GM is feeding everyone, from aero to patch grip to tranny to torque. I can guarantee you the numbers will not impress like they should on a totally revamped car over a nine year old dinosaur!
They use terms like butt-hurt and troll, hater and whiner!! Not worth listening to the double talk coming out of both sides of the mouth and other orifices. You're spot on with your comments.
They use terms like butt-hurt and troll, hater and whiner!! Not worth listening to the double talk coming out of both sides of the mouth and other orifices. You're spot on with your comments.
Back peddling?
BS GM is feeding us?
Guarantee the numbers won't impress?
05-28-2013, 09:41 PM
#263
Safety Car
Here is a picture of the 2014 SAE LT1 Corvette sheet just released with the 2010 Camaro SAE LS3 sheet scaled to it. Nearly identical at 1000rpm then the LT1 is ~50ft-lbs stronger by 2500rpm and close to70ft-lbs by 3200rpm!
<img src="http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac301/camz28aro/LT1dynoLS31_zpsc75a5754.jpg">
<img src="http://i910.photobucket.com/albums/ac301/camz28aro/LT1dynoLS31_zpsc75a5754.jpg">
05-28-2013, 09:41 PM
#264
Nvm
05-28-2013, 09:43 PM
#266
05-28-2013, 09:46 PM
#267
IMO, the base car is there to attract the Boulevard Cruiser market. Possibly a convertable with automatic trans and a lot of the appearence options. That group will feel the added performance of the torque cruve - ala the Corvette CE. Probably never get the car above the peak torque rpm in any gear. Nothing wrong with that. Makes for a solid sales base.
The performance versions of the C7 are yet to come. Nothing wrong with that either. In fact classic Porsche marketing approach. The only "problem" is that there is no production overlap between the performance versions of the C6 and the base versions of the C7 until the performance versions of the C7 arrive.
So, performance fans can pick up a Z06 or ZR1 while waiting for the performance version of the C7?
The performance versions of the C7 are yet to come. Nothing wrong with that either. In fact classic Porsche marketing approach. The only "problem" is that there is no production overlap between the performance versions of the C6 and the base versions of the C7 until the performance versions of the C7 arrive.
So, performance fans can pick up a Z06 or ZR1 while waiting for the performance version of the C7?
The base "Boulevard Cruiser" will still deliver performance beyond the ability of 90% of this forum to handle. I'm not suggesting that I'm an expert or more skilled than anyone else but I have logged hundreds and hundreds of track hours in cars ranging from street cars to dedicated track cars and the C7 "Boulevard Cruiser" will be tons of car at the track. The C7 Z06 would be better again but only relevant in very skilled hands (other than stop light races which hold no interest to many people).
05-28-2013, 10:13 PM
#269
Instructor
I am curious about the published power data..
1) Wonder what octane fuel was used for the test ? Does the SAE Spec speak to this issue. I would think 91 or 93 but..
2) Does the mode selector change the engine tuning ? If so; what does the SAE spec say about this...
Cheers
1) Wonder what octane fuel was used for the test ? Does the SAE Spec speak to this issue. I would think 91 or 93 but..
2) Does the mode selector change the engine tuning ? If so; what does the SAE spec say about this...
Cheers
05-28-2013, 10:18 PM
#271
Team Owner
I bet at least half of the future C7 owners will have limited or no access to E85 gas stations so why bother? There's 4 I believe in all of San Diego, and the closest one to me is at least 20 miles away. If they were on every pump, I'd have my FRC tuned for it, but alas, it isn't practical one damn bit out here.
05-28-2013, 10:43 PM
#272
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A 1LE can give it fits on a road course for under
$40k.
05-28-2013, 11:02 PM
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I think you had better check your lap times there, son. Same time as an '08 ZR-1 at Laguna, about 7 seconds faster than a Camaro SS.
Not bad for an "old barge."
Not bad for an "old barge."
On the original topic, I really can't wait to see how the C7 stacks up against other cars on all courses. It amazes me that people complain about it's performance ability before they see what it is capable of. It'll be faster than the base C6 quite a bit. When the C6 came out it was similar to the C5 ZO6. This gen will be no different, a base C7 (w Z51) will be comparable to a C6 ZO6.
05-28-2013, 11:07 PM
#274
Race Director
What I have gotten from the 273 posts-
460 is enough for the guys already planning on ordering
460 is not enough for the guys on the fence
Ls7 guys are safe, but in a few years watch out
We can only compare the C7's acceleration to the base C6 now
460 is enough for the guys already planning on ordering
460 is not enough for the guys on the fence
Ls7 guys are safe, but in a few years watch out
We can only compare the C7's acceleration to the base C6 now
05-28-2013, 11:09 PM
#275
Scraping the splitter.
It was me who said 1 trick pony. Its a great drag car no doubt and very fast but with over 100 more HP its not as fast as the ZL1 at a road course. You may find a track where its neck and neck but try that for several laps and it fades. The brakes need better cooling and better pads. Sure, those are fairly easy mods but the fact that you have to start modding to get the same level of consistency that the ZL1 and vette come with from the factory says 1 trick pony to me. I'm not trying to disparage your car, they are fine machines but they play to their strengths, which is straight line stuff.
A 1LE can give it fits on a road course for under
$40k.
A 1LE can give it fits on a road course for under
$40k.
You clearly missed the part where I said I track my car. Five 30-minute sessions at the Daytona full course in April and not a hint of fade from the brakes with stock pads.
We'll see how the two ZL1's that will be at Sebring next week fare against my stock '13 GT500 on stock brakes with stock pads (and Motul RBF600 fluid).
I agree that the 'Vette is a better track car.
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05-28-2013, 11:14 PM
#276
Drifting
05-28-2013, 11:15 PM
#277
Scraping the splitter.
05-28-2013, 11:18 PM
#278
Drifting
No problems whatsoever except it guzzles fuel like crazy. Sebring next Saturday!
2013 GT500, Daytona International Speedway, full course, April 12th, 2013 - YouTube
S.
2013 GT500, Daytona International Speedway, full course, April 12th, 2013 - YouTube
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05-28-2013, 11:22 PM
#279
Le Mans Master
No problems whatsoever except it guzzles fuel like crazy. Sebring next Saturday!
2013 GT500, Daytona International Speedway, full course, April 12th, 2013 - YouTube
S.
2013 GT500, Daytona International Speedway, full course, April 12th, 2013 - YouTube
S.
05-28-2013, 11:34 PM
#280
Race Director
Add one more to my list-
Guys swear that no one can feel the difference adding 15-20 HP (if the C7 made 475) but dam they like toting that 460 number over the 455. Guess they can feel those 5 ponies
Guys swear that no one can feel the difference adding 15-20 HP (if the C7 made 475) but dam they like toting that 460 number over the 455. Guess they can feel those 5 ponies