The jokes on you as the C4/C5/C6/C7 is of unibody construction. Even GM says so.

And you think "several Chevrolet dealers" dealers hanging out at a used car auction represents the selling trend of the C7 as a whole.

 

Locally, I can only report what I learned at the dealership where I am getting my C7. My understanding is that my dealer is allocated 14 coupes and 6 convertibles, all of which are 'Sold" units per the list I have seen, and luckily, buy the way, my order happens to be first on the list, and the only car they're getting in the first consensus.

 

Geez Joe the man was just making a positive comment that the new C7 was apparently selling well which is good for Corvette in general and for the "General" in particular. Why all the negative stuff and putting words in his mouth that he never said. Chill man

 

Because it seems the haters and the envious are always looking for something to complain about. I usually just ignore them - not worth my time. Or some people are just bored..

 

Why does almost every new thread on this forum devolve into a worthless pissing contest before the end of the first page?

Jeez. Even as an auto enthusiast new to Corvette, I'm glad that I am fully aware that the vast majority of Corvette owners are NOT represented by the voices on this board. Wow.

 

Okay, where does GM state Corvette is "unibody construction"?
Here's the base of the chassis that GM uses in Corvette...




Here's a true unibody...




The basis of the Corvette chassis are the hydroformed frame rails, to which additional supporting components and eventually the body is attached. Because it's not the traditional body-on-frame where the entire body can be removed from the frame once unbolted, it does not make it a unibody. If anything, one could call it a unibody-on-frame or hybrid design as the suspension (and other) components attach to the frame and the body assembly is unstressed.
Where did I say I thought that? Perhaps they represent a microcosm of C7 sales that is repeated in markets around the country. Since placing my deposit with Criswell, I have called a few dealers. Both of them told me that their allocations were spoken for already.
Why do you have to try and twist what was said to support your apparent goal?
S.

 

Thats for sure!

 

I ran a small consulting firm for almost a decade doing research, writing white papers for large companies, etc, etc. Yet I ran out and bought from the nearest dealer that had an allocation. The closest Chevy dealer to me hasn't sold a Corvette in several years and i don't ever remember one in their showroom. i didn't join this forum until after i ordered and realized my mistake by not shopping around. Darn car got me so excited that i reverted to pre adult behavior, think kid in candy store. i still got in on the first cycle so i am happy about, paying MSRP which is fair BUT i am sure i could have done better in either price or allocation number. i am #8 of 10 allocated to my dealership. I am happy with them, provided allocation numbers told me where I was and I have order number so they have done what any reputable dealer should.

 

Unfortunately I can not link you to a 15 year old press release from GM where they state that the C5 is a unibody. I once had it, but no more.

But, here is a photo of the marriage(body & frame) of a Body-on-frame C3. Notice that the pallet holds the chassis(frame, suspension, engine, transmission , rear axle) and the overhead conveyor holds the body.



here is a photo of the marriage(unibody to the running gear/suspension) of the C6 unibody with the engine, transmission, real axle and suspension on the pallet. Notice there is no frame on the pallet as the unibody on the overhead conveyor has the integral frame in to body making it a unibody.



Now here is a photo of a unibody Camaro being married. Notice that on the pallet is the engine, transmission, rear axle, suspension(just like the C6 photo) and on the overhead conveyor is the unibody(just like the C6 photo)



While most unibody cars are of a Monocoque construction like the Camaro above, that is not the definition of a unibody.

here is another example of a space frame used on the unibody Audi R8. It too, is not a monocouque automobile.



The old Pontiac Fiero is a unibody construction but not of a monocoque design. it also has a space frame integral into the body(making it a unibody) like the C4/C5/C6/C7, with bolt on SMC body panels covering the exterior of the car that are not a structural member of the car's body. I can give you plenty of other examples of unibody cars that utilize space frames(that are integral to the unibody), such as the 2005 Ford GT.

Oh, and my Body-on-frame 1964 Vette has six bolts that secure the body to the frame. How many bolts secure the C4/C5/C6/C7 body to the frame(if it is a body-on-frame car as you believe)? I sure hope you can answer about my C6 that and also tell me where they are located as I might want to do a frame off restoration on my C6 one day. And the NCRS will love you 50 years from now when they are trying to figure out the head markings on those bolts to make sure they are correct..

 

can someone tell me, how many days do I have to wait to get my order#?

 

Would you guys please stop the perpetual pissing matches over unimportant stuff? It clutters up the forum so much that it's impossible to read all the important stuff unless you're retired and have nothing else to do all day...

 

Absolutely. I can hold my response to Joe for a more appropriate thread.
And OP, thanks for the info, despite how some would like to twist it.
S.

 

I could be wrong, but if your dealer has an allocation for a new Corvette to be sold from/by them, when you place an order, there should pop up immediately or soon thereafter, an order number. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

 

Order number is generatd as soon as the order is input into GM's Order system. It does not matter if they have an allocation or not.

 

Really? But then it never goes into production if there's no allocation for a particular dealer, right?

 

That is correct. I had my C7 order number before any dealers got their initial allocations.

 

Got it! Thanks for the explanation, Zy.

 

Where did I say Kerbeck or MacMulkin in my post Joe? I don't know or don't care how many cars they have sold or have left.

Joe I will tell you this I am good friends with George Kerbeck and two months ago I was at a sale that he also was at. I asked George about the C7 and he told me his dealership had over 3,600 customers on a contact list who were interested in buying a C7

As for the 12 dealers I DID speak with they had between 15 and 50 allocations.

 

Joe do you how stupid your statements sound? I don't know of many new car managers or salesman who go to used car auctions. From my 40 years in the business it is either used car managers or a lot of the owners go and buy used cars.

 

I'm in a small market. There are only 2 C7s allocated to the two GM dealers (1 each) for the 2014 model (in Canada, I believe the allocation is different than the US). I have been told by the dealer that they had 15 requests for the one spot they have. I'm glad I'm getting it

The word they are getting from GM Canada is that allocations will open up a bit in 2014 (for the 2015 model year) but even then it will be lower volumes of cars available... at least in small markets. That works well for resale! They will be able to sell every single allocation they get in Canada for the foreseeable future... good luck finding one on a lot to test drive