C7+go fast bits or C7 performance edition?
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C7+go fast bits or C7 performance edition?
For someone that's interested in the performance add-ons like Z51, magnetic shocks, NPP and a street legal aftermarket supercharger would it make more sense to wait for the Z06 model?
I'm gonna make a wild guess that all of the above will put the car close to $70k. An Edlebrock OEMish looking supercharger unit is ~$8,000. The OEM supercharged version should have better integration with the rest of the car, reliability, come with engine internal upgrades and proportional improvements to the drivelines.
Assuming the pricing is parallel to the old generation, which has been so far, a $70k Z06 is fairly likely.
Ok a supercharger is expensive to add, but look at the LS7, that motor costs more than the 580hp torquer LSA!
I'm gonna make a wild guess that all of the above will put the car close to $70k. An Edlebrock OEMish looking supercharger unit is ~$8,000. The OEM supercharged version should have better integration with the rest of the car, reliability, come with engine internal upgrades and proportional improvements to the drivelines.
Assuming the pricing is parallel to the old generation, which has been so far, a $70k Z06 is fairly likely.
Ok a supercharger is expensive to add, but look at the LS7, that motor costs more than the 580hp torquer LSA!
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For someone that's interested in the performance add-ons like Z51, magnetic shocks, NPP and a street legal aftermarket supercharger would it make more sense to wait for the Z06 model?
I'm gonna make a wild guess that all of the above will put the car close to $70k. An Edlebrock OEMish looking supercharger unit is ~$8,000. The OEM supercharged version should have better integration with the rest of the car, reliability, come with engine internal upgrades and proportional improvements to the drivelines.
Assuming the pricing is parallel to the old generation, which has been so far, a $70k Z06 is fairly likely.
Ok a supercharger is expensive to add, but look at the LS7, that motor costs more than the 580hp torquer LSA!
I'm gonna make a wild guess that all of the above will put the car close to $70k. An Edlebrock OEMish looking supercharger unit is ~$8,000. The OEM supercharged version should have better integration with the rest of the car, reliability, come with engine internal upgrades and proportional improvements to the drivelines.
Assuming the pricing is parallel to the old generation, which has been so far, a $70k Z06 is fairly likely.
Ok a supercharger is expensive to add, but look at the LS7, that motor costs more than the 580hp torquer LSA!
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BlueOx, did you ever drive a car with too much power? I haven't. Even the boosted V8s that come in German cars nearing 600hp and nearly the same torque is still very manageable.
A front wheel drive car may be overpowered at 460hp but a chassis as capable as the C7s will laugh at the base engine.
A front wheel drive car may be overpowered at 460hp but a chassis as capable as the C7s will laugh at the base engine.
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BlueOx, did you ever drive a car with too much power? I haven't. Even the boosted V8s that come in German cars nearing 600hp and nearly the same torque is still very manageable.
A front wheel drive car may be overpowered at 460hp but a chassis as capable as the C7s will laugh at the base engine.
A front wheel drive car may be overpowered at 460hp but a chassis as capable as the C7s will laugh at the base engine.
The real questions:
1. How much power are you willing to pay for?
2. How much do you care about warranty?
All the rest is just so much fart gas.
Last edited by BlueOx; Jun 28, 2013 at 10:32 PM.
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Hmm, well I guess I'm really unsure at the performance vette sticker price. If it's $80k I'd rather go the aftermarket route. I just don't want to wait 2 years for the Z06 to pop out and then figure it was better to buy the base all along.
What are the odds that the factory SC car will cost as much as the Z51+ aftermarket kit?
650hp/600tq at no more than 70k would be the sweet spot for me. But what is the best way to go about it?
What are the odds that the factory SC car will cost as much as the Z51+ aftermarket kit?
650hp/600tq at no more than 70k would be the sweet spot for me. But what is the best way to go about it?
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I'm somewhat in this situation. I really like the Stingray, and if the competition seats and data/video recorder were readily avialable, I'd probably have pre-ordered by now. Since they aren't available, I'll wait to see what the Z06 is like.
I do think I would probably end up with the Stingray Z51 though, because I'd probably be going for a 2LT, Mag Shocks, NPP, maybe some of the CF to spice up the looks, likely black wheels, suede package for the seats, competition seats, video/data recorder. Definitely looking @ $70,000 with all that.
So, if you go to the Z06, you'd probably be looking @ $85,000 with similar doo-dads. I'm also guessing it will be a fixed roof. So, $70,000 for a very capable car might be enough, especially if you get the benefit of the targa roof.
Tough choice, especially since we don't know what the Z06 will be. If it is normally aspirated, the choice will be even more difficult. If it is S/C I'd probably lean more towards the Stingray.
-T
I do think I would probably end up with the Stingray Z51 though, because I'd probably be going for a 2LT, Mag Shocks, NPP, maybe some of the CF to spice up the looks, likely black wheels, suede package for the seats, competition seats, video/data recorder. Definitely looking @ $70,000 with all that.
So, if you go to the Z06, you'd probably be looking @ $85,000 with similar doo-dads. I'm also guessing it will be a fixed roof. So, $70,000 for a very capable car might be enough, especially if you get the benefit of the targa roof.
Tough choice, especially since we don't know what the Z06 will be. If it is normally aspirated, the choice will be even more difficult. If it is S/C I'd probably lean more towards the Stingray.
-T
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Go Pro should make any of the models equally approachable. Integration from the OEM is great but at the same time universal gear like Go Pro is also "integrated" in some ways, not with the car, but with everything else.
I won't be needing any options aside from the performance ones so the base+options should be about $58k for me.
I haven't really thought about the Z06 being a fixed roof. I saw GM praising the stiffness with the targa top with a frame built from scratch for open roof use but it does make sense that a fixed roof would be stiffer still.
So I suppose this makes the choice easier. If the Z06 comes out fixed roof and supercharged then the base model+aftermarket (or OEM TVS upgrade) would be by best choice easily. Anything inbetween like fixed roof but an all motor approach would be terrifying to pick from. I want open air and boost on a screamer motor!
I won't be needing any options aside from the performance ones so the base+options should be about $58k for me.
I haven't really thought about the Z06 being a fixed roof. I saw GM praising the stiffness with the targa top with a frame built from scratch for open roof use but it does make sense that a fixed roof would be stiffer still.
So I suppose this makes the choice easier. If the Z06 comes out fixed roof and supercharged then the base model+aftermarket (or OEM TVS upgrade) would be by best choice easily. Anything inbetween like fixed roof but an all motor approach would be terrifying to pick from. I want open air and boost on a screamer motor!
Last edited by SBC_and_a_stick; Jun 29, 2013 at 04:02 AM.
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I'm somewhat in this situation. I really like the Stingray, and if the competition seats and data/video recorder were readily avialable, I'd probably have pre-ordered by now. Since they aren't available, I'll wait to see what the Z06 is like.
I do think I would probably end up with the Stingray Z51 though, because I'd probably be going for a 2LT, Mag Shocks, NPP, maybe some of the CF to spice up the looks, likely black wheels, suede package for the seats, competition seats, video/data recorder. Definitely looking @ $70,000 with all that.
So, if you go to the Z06, you'd probably be looking @ $85,000 with similar doo-dads.
-T
I do think I would probably end up with the Stingray Z51 though, because I'd probably be going for a 2LT, Mag Shocks, NPP, maybe some of the CF to spice up the looks, likely black wheels, suede package for the seats, competition seats, video/data recorder. Definitely looking @ $70,000 with all that.
So, if you go to the Z06, you'd probably be looking @ $85,000 with similar doo-dads.
-T
If the C7 Z06 pricing runs proportionally similar to the C6 version, you'd better tack on another 15 grand minimum to that 85, at least for the first few years. Think of what will most likely go into the next higher performance version, consider pricing on the Z07 and then do the math.
Even though I rarely use anywhere near the full potential of the Z06, my Z51 order would go on hold along with a bunch of others at your price point.
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If the choice is to mod a c7 z51 with an aftermarket supercharger or buy a c7 high performance product ? my suggestion is to wait and order the higher performance factory product....
Dino numbers aside...the. Factory high performance vehicles are better integrated and balanced...not to mention the first year model of a new generation would be best served with a warranty...I'm not saying there will be problems but rather it just makes more sense to have a warranty on a new generation
I believe the new x7 z51 is more performance vehicle than many of us are drivers.....and with that said...if you want more hp....wait the time necessary for the higher performance version from the factory..
Just less headaches down the road as The miles pile on as well
Dino numbers aside...the. Factory high performance vehicles are better integrated and balanced...not to mention the first year model of a new generation would be best served with a warranty...I'm not saying there will be problems but rather it just makes more sense to have a warranty on a new generation
I believe the new x7 z51 is more performance vehicle than many of us are drivers.....and with that said...if you want more hp....wait the time necessary for the higher performance version from the factory..
Just less headaches down the road as The miles pile on as well