Article about C7
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This was a surprise to anyone? The Z06 had more power, more rubber, and started at 75k. The C7 Z51 isn't meant to beat a C6Z06. It'd have been nice to have advanced that far, but really, nobody was expecting the world for nothing.
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Just as the C6 Z51 wasn't as fast as the C5 Z06.
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And in the link you provided Snorman, it shows the Fastest Lap of VIR in a Z06, a Z07 variant, at 2:53.50 - which is what I understood to be the fastest.
So I'm still stymied as to where the 2:49 lap of VIR in a Z06 is coming from?
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Even The Bash video references a Z06 on "Goodyear Gen 2" tires running a 2:50.
I guess it's "Seize on a Typo and Run With It Day"?
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I guess at this point, you've suggested the most logical conclusion. A lap time 'typo'.
I wonder what tires the 'typos' run on
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But you know, this is the same bullsh*t being spread around about the C7's braking performance, where Motor Trend results are being compared to what GM has released.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/1584398273-post292.html
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What's disappointing about this photo is how badly the car's nose is lifting...and it's not even getting any traction! I was hoping that GM had finally figured out anti-dive/anti-squat suspension geometry for this car. I've always been embarrassed by the way all of my Corvettes have taken on that "dog-squatting-to-pee" attitude whenever I've nailed the throttle...even at speed. Not only will a cop be able to spot this from a long way off...it has to wreak havoc with suspension geometry, aerodynamics, etc. Why is it so difficult for the car to retain attitude when accelerating? This is my first major let-down with the C7's dynamic characteristics. I am morose...
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Hence, 2:50 minus 1 second = 2:49.
Pretty simple. No conspiracy or typo. This info was discussed way back when the C7 VIR laptime was revealed as well. Myself and a couple others were trying to determine comparable times using the Bash video and estimates of the tire performance variation. At the time we thought the C7 would be about 2.8 seconds slower than a Z06 and 1.8 seconds faster than a GS (if the GS were equipped with the C7 tires).
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What's disappointing about this photo is how badly the car's nose is lifting...and it's not even getting any traction! I was hoping that GM had finally figured out anti-dive/anti-squat suspension geometry for this car. I've always been embarrassed by the way all of my Corvettes have taken on that "dog-squatting-to-pee" attitude whenever I've nailed the throttle...even at speed. Not only will a cop be able to spot this from a long way off...it has to wreak havoc with suspension geometry, aerodynamics, etc. Why is it so difficult for the car to retain attitude when accelerating? This is my first major let-down with the C7's dynamic characteristics. I am morose...
And aerodynamics are irrelevant to the conversation under 60mph. At 60mph, your car will not still be squatting like this, even at WOT.
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Why are people making a big deal out of that VIR time? Jim Mero told us the C6Z on Goodyear GenII's ran a 2:50 at the Bash a long time ago.
The C6GS with GenII's ran a 2:54 and with the GY Gen I's ran a 2:58.
The C6GS with GenII's ran a 2:54 and with the GY Gen I's ran a 2:58.
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That's usually a background function, like bluetooth, so probably not...
What's disappointing about this photo is how badly the car's nose is lifting...and it's not even getting any traction! I was hoping that GM had finally figured out anti-dive/anti-squat suspension geometry for this car. I've always been embarrassed by the way all of my Corvettes have taken on that "dog-squatting-to-pee" attitude whenever I've nailed the throttle...even at speed. Not only will a cop be able to spot this from a long way off...it has to wreak havoc with suspension geometry, aerodynamics, etc. Why is it so difficult for the car to retain attitude when accelerating? This is my first major let-down with the C7's dynamic characteristics. I am morose...
What's disappointing about this photo is how badly the car's nose is lifting...and it's not even getting any traction! I was hoping that GM had finally figured out anti-dive/anti-squat suspension geometry for this car. I've always been embarrassed by the way all of my Corvettes have taken on that "dog-squatting-to-pee" attitude whenever I've nailed the throttle...even at speed. Not only will a cop be able to spot this from a long way off...it has to wreak havoc with suspension geometry, aerodynamics, etc. Why is it so difficult for the car to retain attitude when accelerating? This is my first major let-down with the C7's dynamic characteristics. I am morose...
If you are concerned with it, just get wheelie bars like the pro dragsters use
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You must remember that Mero also said that the Z06 ran 1 second faster when equipped with the C7 tires. I think that was mentioned earlier in the same Bash video, when he was talking about tire development.
Hence, 2:50 minus 1 second = 2:49.
Pretty simple. No conspiracy or typo. This info was discussed way back when the C7 VIR laptime was revealed as well. Myself and a couple others were trying to determine comparable times using the Bash video and estimates of the tire performance variation. At the time we thought the C7 would be about 2.8 seconds slower than a Z06 and 1.8 seconds faster than a GS (if the GS were equipped with the C7 tires).
-T
Hence, 2:50 minus 1 second = 2:49.
Pretty simple. No conspiracy or typo. This info was discussed way back when the C7 VIR laptime was revealed as well. Myself and a couple others were trying to determine comparable times using the Bash video and estimates of the tire performance variation. At the time we thought the C7 would be about 2.8 seconds slower than a Z06 and 1.8 seconds faster than a GS (if the GS were equipped with the C7 tires).
-T