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Old Jul 26, 2013 | 06:32 PM
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In the 2014 RPO and C7 Pricing thread there's an amazing spreadsheet with American pricing that's super useful.

Now that some people have Canadian pricing, is there any chance someone could create a Canadian priced version of the spreadsheet?

I'm one of those youngsters that Corvette is targeting with the C7 that wants to jump on board :P I think I can only afford the base model with maybe a couple small add-ons.

Thanks so much!
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Only a fool would by a new Corvette in Canada, GM Canada typically rapes Canadians by adding at least $30K sticker vs sticker with the US, and the discounts are nowhere near as good north of the border as they are in the States.
The sticker on my 2010 loaded GS vert was $76K in the US and $108K in Canada, + there were substantial discounts available in the US at that time, and I mean substantial, that increased the delta even further.
A local friend said that a local GM dealer told him $85K for a new coupe, can you imagine???
The car would be worth less than half after the first year when the same Canadian GM dealer will be selling used US Vettes on his lot like they all do...
Caveat emptor my friend!



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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Only a fool would by a new Corvette in Canada, GM Canada typically rapes Canadians by adding at least $30K sticker vs sticker with the US, and the discounts are nowhere near as good north of the border as they are in the States.
The sticker on my 2010 loaded GS vert was $76K in the US and $108K in Canada, + there were substantial discounts available in the US at that time, and I mean substantial, that increased the delta even further.
A local friend said that a local GM dealer told him $85K for a new coupe, can you imagine???
The car would be worth less than half after the first year when the same Canadian GM dealer will be selling used US Vettes on his lot like they all do...
Caveat emptor my friend!



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You should check the C7 pricing in Canada before making this conclusion. It is only a couple of thousand more than the US. Effectively the same price. The days of being killed by GM Canada are done. It is also going to kill the resale of all pre C7 cars in Canada.

My Z51, 2LT, NPP, MRC, FAY car is $68k Canadian including delivery.

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You should check the C7 pricing in Canada before making this conclusion. It is only a couple of thousand more than the US. Effectively the same price. The days of being killed by GM Canada are done. It is also going to kill the resale of all pre C7 cars in Canada.

My Z51, 2LT, NPP, MRC, FAY car is $68k Canadian including delivery.
Hi,
I'll confess that I have not personally checked C7 pricing, it's not really my cup of tea...
$68k for a 2LT does not sound US pricing though? Unless the C7 has gone up dramatically compared to the C6?
Check the forum dealers, I would wager that the same car state side would be considerably cheaper.
When I bought my '07 coupe, a 3LT coupe was about $68K in Canada (selling price), same car could be had for about $42K in the US after discounts.
There may be an initial rush on the C7, but I'm sure the discounts will soon start flying if they haven't already...



Paul

PS. If Canadian pricing is actually now at or close to US pricing, great news for any Canadian who wants to buy a GM product.

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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Hi,
I'll confess that I have not personally checked C7 pricing it's not really my cup of tea...
$68k for a 2LT does not sound US pricing though? Unless the C7 has gone up dramatically compared to the C6?
Check the forum dealers, I would wager that the same car state side would be considerably cheaper.
When I bought my '07 coupe, a 3LT coupe was about $68K in Canada, same car could be had for about $42K in the US after discounts.
There may be an initial rush on the C7, but I'm sure the discounts will soon start flying if they haven't already...



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The C7 pricing only went up marginally over the C6 in the US. The Canadian pricing is only a couple of thousand more than that. This is MSRP to MSRP which is the only meaningful comparison today as there are no discounts yet. Regardless, the price gap has been almost eliminated. Also, don't forget that the Z51 C7 should really be compared to the C6 GS. If I optioned a C6 GS in Canada similarly to my C7, it would be $10 - $12k more expensive. GM has done an amazing job with Canadian pricing on this car.
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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
GM Canada typically rapes Canadians



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In Quebec you also get Gang Bang Raped by the Provincial Government!!!

Last night I was thinking of replacing my daily driver 08 Accord Coupe with an 13 coupe. It would cost me $3000 + more in Quebec then in Alberta which has no provincial tax. In Quebec they they even tax you on the Federal tax go figure. Drivers License $156 Per YR instead of 2 yrs (In Ontario $75 for 5 yrs) Registration $365 and we have the worst roads, bridges. We pay so much to encourage drivers to use the Bus and Metro which are in deficit.

Bad enough we have the ticket happy police, & Language Police that seems to embarrass us world wild. Most Unionized Province of lazy a$$es & the most Corrupt Province, and the French PQ party thinks separation is the solution. Yeah right

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Originally Posted by gthal
The C7 pricing only went up marginally over the C6 in the US. The Canadian pricing is only a couple of thousand more than that. This is MSRP to MSRP which is the only meaningful comparison today as there are no discounts yet. Regardless, the price gap has been almost eliminated. Also, don't forget that the Z51 C7 should really be compared to the C6 GS. If I optioned a C6 GS in Canada similarly to my C7, it would be $10 - $12k more expensive. GM has done an amazing job with Canadian pricing on this car.
Z51 was only like a $1600 option on the C6? If you are telling me that a 2LT is $68K in the US, then GM Canada has done a good job, but if C7 pricing is the same or close to C6 pricing, then a US 2LT will be one heck of a lot less than $68K?
Again I haven't personally checked C7 pricing on either side of the border, so I sure ain't no C7 pricing expert..
As I understand it, the problem has been that GM Canada sales operated as a stand alone business unit that purchased product from GM US, added margin and then resold in Canada.
This business model has been obsolete in almost all multinationals in Canada for several years, free trade, the internet and the strong Canadian dollar necessitated the switch to monolithic or near monolithic pricing for most quite a while back.
So unless GM US has integrated the GM Canada sales division as say a US zone or something similar, I don't see that things could change much?
Good luck with your new car, enjoy.



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Old Jul 27, 2013 | 10:11 AM
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It's a good thing you check facts :P

Canadian pricing starts at: $52,745. I think you'll find that very comparable to the US starting price
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Z51 was only like a $1600 option on the C6? If you are telling me that a 2LT is $68K in the US, then GM Canada has done a good job, but if C7 pricing is the same or close to C6 pricing, then a US 2LT will be one heck of a lot less than $68K?
Again I haven't personally checked C7 pricing on either side of the border, so I sure ain't no C7 pricing expert..
As I understand it, the problem has been that GM Canada sales operated as a stand alone business unit that purchased product from GM US, added margin and then resold in Canada.
This business model has been obsolete in almost all multinationals in Canada for several years, free trade, the internet and the strong Canadian dollar necessitated the switch to monolithic or near monolithic pricing for most quite a while back.
So unless GM US has integrated the GM Canada sales division as say a US zone or something similar, I don't see that things could change much?
Good luck with your new car, enjoy.



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My C7 Z51 vert is costing appx 4% more here in CDN $. I could have bought in the US but for that small difference it made no sense . Factor in exchange as I would have to buy US$ and its actually cheaper here!!

When pricing came out even my dealer could not believe it!
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Hi,
I'll confess that I have not personally checked C7 pricing, it's not really my cup of tea...
$68k for a 2LT does not sound US pricing though? Unless the C7 has gone up dramatically compared to the C6?
Check the forum dealers, I would wager that the same car state side would be considerably cheaper.
When I bought my '07 coupe, a 3LT coupe was about $68K in Canada (selling price), same car could be had for about $42K in the US after discounts.
There may be an initial rush on the C7, but I'm sure the discounts will soon start flying if they haven't already...



Paul

PS. If Canadian pricing is actually now at or close to US pricing, great news for any Canadian who wants to buy a GM product.
You need to learn a little more about the C7 before posting, IMO. Based on your comments regarding 2LT, you clearly think C7 2LT is the same as C6 2LT. It is not even close. 2LT on a C7 is the same as the outgoing 3LT in a C6. 3LT in a C7 is as high as it goes, there is NO 4LT on a C7. A C7 3LT is full leather wrap, all the goodies (nav, etc), just like a C6 4LT.

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Originally Posted by jimmyb
You need to learn a little more about the C7 before posting, IMO. Based on your comments regarding 2LT, you clearly think C7 2LT is the same as C6 2LT. It is not even close. 2LT on a C7 is the same as the outgoing 3LT in a C6. 3LT in a C7 is as high as it goes, there is NO 4LT on a C7. A C7 3LT is full leather wrap, all the goodies (nav, etc), just like a C6 4LT.

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Its about time GM Canada quit the price gouging on the Corvette. However seeing as this was quite lucrative for them I would like to know how they are going to make up this shortfall to their profits. It has to come from somewhere.
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GM Canada had no choice. Dealers were buying near-new used cars out of the States for lot inventory, rather than ordering new inventory from GM Canada. Retail buyers were buying in the States. GM Canada was being bypassed to a large extent. They will make more money boosting volumes at competitive prices than by cherry picking. Plus the larger vette dealers must have been ripping strips off the GM reps over the bad pricing policy
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Originally Posted by v26278
GM Canada had no choice. Dealers were buying near-new used cars out of the States for lot inventory, rather than ordering new inventory from GM Canada. Retail buyers were buying in the States. GM Canada was being bypassed to a large extent. They will make more money boosting volumes at competitive prices than by cherry picking. Plus the larger vette dealers must have been ripping strips off the GM reps over the bad pricing policy
I hopr you are right. Maybe the rest of the Chevy line will see some minor price adjustments upwards. It would not surprise me.
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I ordered 2LT. 4K for extra fancy leather and nav In 3LT I could not do it!
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Originally Posted by Fawndeuce
Hi,
I'll confess that I have not personally checked C7 pricing, it's not really my cup of tea...
$68k for a 2LT does not sound US pricing though? Unless the C7 has gone up dramatically compared to the C6?
Check the forum dealers, I would wager that the same car state side would be considerably cheaper.
When I bought my '07 coupe, a 3LT coupe was about $68K in Canada (selling price), same car could be had for about $42K in the US after discounts.
There may be an initial rush on the C7, but I'm sure the discounts will soon start flying if they haven't already...



Paul

PS. If Canadian pricing is actually now at or close to US pricing, great news for any Canadian who wants to buy a GM product.
we understand, after all your from n.y.
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and the French PQ party thinks separation is the solution. Yeah right
It is the solution..
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It is the solution..
OT:I'd like to see a referendum in the rest of Canada, to see if We want to keep QE
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OT:I'd like to see a referendum in the rest of Canada, to see if We want to keep QE
No politics in the forum.
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