Another C7 Accident
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Racer
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Uh, my corvette didn't break when I got into an accident, and neither did my other plastic/SMC cars. It will dent.
Melting Slicks
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Also, if you look into the side mirror of the photographer's car, do you notice that the first car shown appears to be a black damaged car? Or is it just me?
Melting Slicks
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There are so many question marks...
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I do like your sens of humor. However, let's get technical a little. Correct me if I am wrong - Unless the C7 was driving across the pedestrian crosswalk, the impact we presumed happened somewhere in the intersection, and the Lincoln must have dragged the C7 across and onto the crosswalk. If that was the case, why then, all the debris from the impact appears to be all concentrated where the cars ended up rather than at the point of impact, or possibly scattered?
Also, if you look into the side mirror of the photographer's car, do you notice that the first car shown appears to be a black damaged car? Or is it just me?
Also, if you look into the side mirror of the photographer's car, do you notice that the first car shown appears to be a black damaged car? Or is it just me?
Yes, it is just you.
Definitely a real photo.
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Melting Slicks
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Melting Slicks
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Maybe. Like I said, I could very well be wrong. But the thing that puzzles me is the concentration of debris at the point of rest rather than point of impact or even scattered. That, I am having a hard time explaining.
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As a former accident investigator for a Metro PD, I found there was almost always more debris where the vehicles finally stopped than where they first collided. Because of the debris in the street before the crosswalk, it is very obvious to me that the Vette was hit while in the intersection making a left turn. The left front corner of the Lincoln made first contact with the Vette's door near the handle. The Lincoln's impact slid the Vette straight and the Lincoln's right front corner then impacted the door near the hinges. That's why there is more damage to the door near the handle than at the hinges. It is likely that the Lincoln stopped it's forward movement before the Vette quit sliding sideways. That's the reason there is a separation of the two vehicles and why most of the debris is in between them.
Melting Slicks
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As a former accident investigator for a Metro PD, I found there was almost always more debris where the vehicles finally stopped than where they first collided. Because of the debris in the street before the crosswalk, it is very obvious to me that the Vette was hit while in the intersection making a left turn. The left front corner of the Lincoln made first contact with the Vette's door near the handle. The Lincoln's impact slid the Vette straight and the Lincoln's right front corner then impacted the door near the hinges. That's why there is more damage to the door near the handle than at the hinges. It is likely that the Lincoln stopped it's forward movement before the Vette quit sliding sideways. That's the reason there is a separation of the two vehicles and why most of the debris is in between them.
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Thanks for the clarification. But, can you please explain to me why there would be a wider debris field at the resting point, rather than point of impact? I am trying to understand it from a physics stand point. The C7 was apparently dragged/pushed a distance in excess of 40 feet. Don't you think the impact would have spun the Vette once the corner of the Lincoln reached the door handle of the Vette? Just asking. I may be dense, I am simply trying to learn....
1) Momentum. Those parts that 'exploded' off the car at impact were traveling the same speed and direction as the car, thus they followed the car to it's resting place.
2) Delay. Many parts will become patially dislodged at impact only to become fully dislodged after coming to a rest. Internal parts that did come fully dislodged at impact, will still follow the car until the resting point.
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Two factors:
1) Momentum. Those parts that 'exploded' off the car at impact were traveling the same speed and direction as the car, thus they followed the car to it's resting place.
2) Delay. Many parts will become patially dislodged at impact only to become fully dislodged after coming to a rest. Internal parts that did come fully dislodged at impact, will still follow the car until the resting point.
1) Momentum. Those parts that 'exploded' off the car at impact were traveling the same speed and direction as the car, thus they followed the car to it's resting place.
2) Delay. Many parts will become patially dislodged at impact only to become fully dislodged after coming to a rest. Internal parts that did come fully dislodged at impact, will still follow the car until the resting point.
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Thanks for the clarification. But, can you please explain to me why there would be a wider debris field at the resting point, rather than point of impact? I am trying to understand it from a physics stand point. The C7 was apparently dragged/pushed a distance in excess of 40 feet. Don't you think the impact would have spun the Vette once the corner of the Lincoln reached the door handle of the Vette? Just asking. I may be dense, I am simply trying to learn....
Why are you trying to make this so difficult? First of all the Lincoln pushed the Vette. There was no dragging! Second, the Vette was pushed only about a car length after it was hit. Not 40 plus feet! This is very evident by where the debris starts and ends. Third, neither the Lincoln nor the Vette was traveling very fast. Probably in the neighborhood of 10-15 mph. Any faster and there would have been much more damage to both vehicles. And Fourth, to spin a vehicle around, it has to be hit hard at the very front or back corners. When a car is T-boned, it doesn't spin around, it just gets pushed straight.
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Why are you trying to make this so difficult? First of all the Lincoln pushed the Vette. There was no dragging! Second, the Vette was pushed only about a car length after it was hit. Not 40 plus feet! This is very evident by where the debris starts and ends. Third, neither the Lincoln nor the Vette was traveling very fast. Probably in the neighborhood of 10-15 mph. Any faster and there would have been much more damage to both vehicles. And Fourth, to spin a vehicle around, it has to be hit hard at the very front or back corners. When a car is T-boned, it doesn't spin around, it just gets pushed straight.
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Two factors:
1) Momentum. Those parts that 'exploded' off the car at impact were traveling the same speed and direction as the car, thus they followed the car to it's resting place.
2) Delay. Many parts will become patially dislodged at impact only to become fully dislodged after coming to a rest. Internal parts that did come fully dislodged at impact, will still follow the car until the resting point.
1) Momentum. Those parts that 'exploded' off the car at impact were traveling the same speed and direction as the car, thus they followed the car to it's resting place.
2) Delay. Many parts will become patially dislodged at impact only to become fully dislodged after coming to a rest. Internal parts that did come fully dislodged at impact, will still follow the car until the resting point.
A la a cup in a shallow cup holder when you hit the breaks... a la momentum.