Consensus 1 & 2`
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From: DFW Area TX
Consensus is basically the process where Chevy tells every dealer how many Corvettes they have allocated to them in the current cycle. The dealers then determine which of their orders are assigned to their allocations.
Go to the Chevy Order Tracking site and enter your order # and select the state of your dealer. Then click the "Track Now" button. If the status shows "Order Placed" you have not been in any of the consensus cycles to date.
Go to the Chevy Order Tracking site and enter your order # and select the state of your dealer. Then click the "Track Now" button. If the status shows "Order Placed" you have not been in any of the consensus cycles to date.
Racer
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1st Consensus was orders taken in May (i think 23rd?)
2nd Consensus was orders taken starting July 4th..
3rd Consensus was July 18th and did not have any openings for C7 orders
4th Consensus i think was 1st? (not sure entirely.. stopped paying attention)..
for example, a very large dealer had "263 cars allocations for 6 months"...
they got 13 on 1st consensus, 59 on second, 0 on 3rd... and not sure how many on 4th..
normal dealers only got like 10-20 cars, and generally had 1 on 1st... maybe 2 on second, none on 3rd.. etc... the dealer i usually deal with got 26 cars.. and all presold.. so i wouldn't have gotten on any of their consensus'/... consensus are generally every 2 weeks.. open on thurs...
if you're concerned about your order, ask how many allocations they got for 6 months, ask them how many cars they got on 1st/2nd/4th consensus.. and ask when they feel your car will get ordered and accepted by the work bench.. most would be honest with you i feel...
i tried to help many friends w/ this because lots of dealers are taking orders w/o any available n their consensus.
2nd Consensus was orders taken starting July 4th..
3rd Consensus was July 18th and did not have any openings for C7 orders
4th Consensus i think was 1st? (not sure entirely.. stopped paying attention)..
for example, a very large dealer had "263 cars allocations for 6 months"...
they got 13 on 1st consensus, 59 on second, 0 on 3rd... and not sure how many on 4th..
normal dealers only got like 10-20 cars, and generally had 1 on 1st... maybe 2 on second, none on 3rd.. etc... the dealer i usually deal with got 26 cars.. and all presold.. so i wouldn't have gotten on any of their consensus'/... consensus are generally every 2 weeks.. open on thurs...
if you're concerned about your order, ask how many allocations they got for 6 months, ask them how many cars they got on 1st/2nd/4th consensus.. and ask when they feel your car will get ordered and accepted by the work bench.. most would be honest with you i feel...
i tried to help many friends w/ this because lots of dealers are taking orders w/o any available n their consensus.
Racer
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i'm not a GM PhD.. but its basically another word for "allocation"... "may allocation" "early july allocation".. they tell the dealer "you get 13 orders this consensus..." the dealer prepares 13 orders.. and submits them inside the window they are given..
the orders then jump from 1100 to 2000 "accepted".. then later they jump to 3000 and 3300...
a dealer can place an order at any time, but it doesnt get accepted until the dealer gets the consensus allocation and can actually submit.
the orders then jump from 1100 to 2000 "accepted".. then later they jump to 3000 and 3300...
a dealer can place an order at any time, but it doesnt get accepted until the dealer gets the consensus allocation and can actually submit.
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From: DFW Area TX
i'm not a GM PhD.. but its basically another word for "allocation"... "may allocation" "early july allocation".. they tell the dealer "you get 13 orders this consensus..." the dealer prepares 13 orders.. and submits them inside the window they are given..
the orders then jump from 1100 to 2000 "accepted".. then later they jump to 3000 and 3300...
a dealer can place an order at any time, but it doesnt get accepted until the dealer gets the consensus allocation and can actually submit.
the orders then jump from 1100 to 2000 "accepted".. then later they jump to 3000 and 3300...
a dealer can place an order at any time, but it doesnt get accepted until the dealer gets the consensus allocation and can actually submit.
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I have a question about the ordering process. If a dealer was told that they have an allocation of 5 coupes in the first 6-9 Months and he put in the 5 orders in to the system, can he put in more orders in to the system and still get order numbers?
Thank You.
Thank You.
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From: Auburn NY
It seems sensible that since the production pipeline is not open yet that things are not happening as we expect. Once they get the bugs out and get up to speed I am thinking things will go faster than we expect.
I have a deposit in at Kerbeck and am patiently waiting for things to move. Obviously the next events will be confirmation of customer car production and, more importantly, of customer car shipment.
Kerbeck apparently is not entering an order for every deposit they receive. They explained that since they have a large buyer commitment and even more allocation that they did not want to start entering orders and then have people constantly changing them. The philosophy is that once my car comes up on the horizon I can finalize and put the order in. Since most of the existing orders are going nowhere right now i guess there is nothing wrong with this philosophy. Since they are the biggest, I have faith that I will get the car within a reasonable time.
I have a deposit in at Kerbeck and am patiently waiting for things to move. Obviously the next events will be confirmation of customer car production and, more importantly, of customer car shipment.
Kerbeck apparently is not entering an order for every deposit they receive. They explained that since they have a large buyer commitment and even more allocation that they did not want to start entering orders and then have people constantly changing them. The philosophy is that once my car comes up on the horizon I can finalize and put the order in. Since most of the existing orders are going nowhere right now i guess there is nothing wrong with this philosophy. Since they are the biggest, I have faith that I will get the car within a reasonable time.
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From: Atlantic City NJ
It seems sensible that since the production pipeline is not open yet that things are not happening as we expect. Once they get the bugs out and get up to speed I am thinking things will go faster than we expect.
I have a deposit in at Kerbeck and am patiently waiting for things to move. Obviously the next events will be confirmation of customer car production and, more importantly, of customer car shipment.
Kerbeck apparently is not entering an order for every deposit they receive. They explained that since they have a large buyer commitment and even more allocation that they did not want to start entering orders and then have people constantly changing them. The philosophy is that once my car comes up on the horizon I can finalize and put the order in. Since most of the existing orders are going nowhere right now i guess there is nothing wrong with this philosophy. Since they are the biggest, I have faith that I will get the car within a reasonable time.
I have a deposit in at Kerbeck and am patiently waiting for things to move. Obviously the next events will be confirmation of customer car production and, more importantly, of customer car shipment.
Kerbeck apparently is not entering an order for every deposit they receive. They explained that since they have a large buyer commitment and even more allocation that they did not want to start entering orders and then have people constantly changing them. The philosophy is that once my car comes up on the horizon I can finalize and put the order in. Since most of the existing orders are going nowhere right now i guess there is nothing wrong with this philosophy. Since they are the biggest, I have faith that I will get the car within a reasonable time.
Once a "sold" order is placed in the system (Event Code 1100) GM does not allow any changes to be made to the order. That means that if I took your deposit today for an order that won't be picked up for a few weeks I could put it in the system and give you the order number now so you can watch it sit at 1100 for a month or so.
However, if, during your wait, you decide to make a change to your order, I would have to delete your order and re-enter the whole thing. Since we have people changing their minds 3 or 4 times during the wait you can see why I wait till the last moment to put the order into the system!
Dave
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Consensus is a process, it normally begins on a Thursday and ends the following Tuesday, it starts with dealers being told how many of what model can be ordered, it involves several passes as the orders are matched against allocation than against constraints and finally unused allocations are assigned to dealers willing to use them.
Every Chevrolet model is subject to consensus, and it is easy to see the process can be time/attention consuming.
On my behalf, that is the best explanation of consensus I have ever written. I think I will save it for the next several times this question comes up.
Laborsmith
Every Chevrolet model is subject to consensus, and it is easy to see the process can be time/attention consuming.
On my behalf, that is the best explanation of consensus I have ever written. I think I will save it for the next several times this question comes up.
Laborsmith
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From: Atlantic City NJ
Consensus is a process, it normally begins on a Thursday and ends the following Tuesday, it starts with dealers being told how many of what model can be ordered, it involves several passes as the orders are matched against allocation than against constraints and finally unused allocations are assigned to dealers willing to use them.
Every Chevrolet model is subject to consensus, and it is easy to see the process can be time/attention consuming.
On my behalf, that is the best explanation of consensus I have ever written. I think I will save it for the next several times this question comes up.
Laborsmith
Every Chevrolet model is subject to consensus, and it is easy to see the process can be time/attention consuming.
On my behalf, that is the best explanation of consensus I have ever written. I think I will save it for the next several times this question comes up.
Laborsmith
Dave
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From: Canton MI
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Consensus is a process, it normally begins on a Thursday and ends the following Tuesday, it starts with dealers being told how many of what model can be ordered, it involves several passes as the orders are matched against allocation than against constraints and finally unused allocations are assigned to dealers willing to use them.
Every Chevrolet model is subject to consensus, and it is easy to see the process can be time/attention consuming.
On my behalf, that is the best explanation of consensus I have ever written. I think I will save it for the next several times this question comes up.
Laborsmith
Every Chevrolet model is subject to consensus, and it is easy to see the process can be time/attention consuming.
On my behalf, that is the best explanation of consensus I have ever written. I think I will save it for the next several times this question comes up.
Laborsmith