Orange Peel ???
#1
Le Mans Master
Thread Starter
Orange Peel ???
Hey,
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
#2
AIR FORCE VETERAN
Hey,
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
#3
Team Owner
My 09 Z06 has a very good paint job with very little orange peel. I fact it's better than most steel bodied cars. It's a fairly dark color also, being Cyber Gray. I can't imagine that the C7 would be worse, some five years later.
#4
Same here with my 10 torch red ZR1 and my 09 Victory red Z06 paint on both were almost flawless very little if any orange peel..hope the C7 Z car will be like that.
#6
I had a 93 Ruby Red 40th. Paint was like glass. Same with my 94 torch red and my black '02 C5 Zed. My current '09 blade silver Zed has horrible orange peel and some "tiger striping" of the silver down one side. Really crappy paint. I figure it's the luck of the draw and if the robots were out drinking heavy the night before.
#7
Le Mans Master
Hey,
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
#8
I had some on my 2010 . It was not orange peel in the paint but the clear coat. Which is the case most of the time. Wet sand and wheeling makes most cars look like show cars.
Too bad the Dealer had to have his *** handed to him by a GM guy that I called in. The car was there four days getting things fixed that he found before I was called to come pick it up.
I know it should have had the clear coat issues caught at the plant, among the rest of the items. But the Dealer is the last stop before the buyer.
Too bad Dealers can't up their game!
Too bad the Dealer had to have his *** handed to him by a GM guy that I called in. The car was there four days getting things fixed that he found before I was called to come pick it up.
I know it should have had the clear coat issues caught at the plant, among the rest of the items. But the Dealer is the last stop before the buyer.
Too bad Dealers can't up their game!
Last edited by BLD.70DRIVERMPG-RET.; 08-25-2013 at 10:26 AM.
#9
Orange Peel
Hey,
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
I'd like to know from those of you who have seen the C7 in person. Do the dark colors still suffer from Orange Peel??
I have had to silver C4's and the paint was fine. I bought a C5 Z new (Lemans Blue) and it had terrible Orange Peel.
If the dark colors still have that problem, I might lean toward silver again. Otherwise the metallic red would be my first choice (I think )
#10
The phenomena of "orange peel" is a widely known and avoidable issue with modern environmentally controlled paint booths utilizing robotic controlled guns. There is no excuse for shipping a car with orange peel, it is a function of poor workmanship and lack of quality control. If my C7 in black shows up at the dealer with paint defects, I will refuse delivery!
#12
Intermediate
The phenomena of "orange peel" is a widely known and avoidable issue with modern environmentally controlled paint booths utilizing robotic controlled guns. There is no excuse for shipping a car with orange peel, it is a function of poor workmanship and lack of quality control. If my C7 in black shows up at the dealer with paint defects, I will refuse delivery!
So the moral of the story is do not accept a car sitting inside under florescent until you have seen it in the sun because you just might be disappointed. About 50% or more of the cars I have purchased new I have found a paint defect once moved outside into the sun. They are not always big but they are there none the less.
#14
Instructor
My son worked for a while as a supervisor in the paint area of a body shop and as previously mentioned the orange peel effect on newer cars is due to the environmentally friendly low VOC content clear coat. Some Insurance companies that worked with the body shop don't care and won't pay the extra labor to correct the issue while a few will refuse the car if it is any less than perfect. As noted buffing and polishing can remove the orange peel most of the time.
#15
Ferraris and Porsches (as well as almost every car on the road) have orange peel. Do you think a cheapo Corvette won't have any? Getting rid of orange peel requires a very labor-intensive process that nobody does. I don't recall if Rolls Royce or Bentley do some 'paint correction' to eliminate most of it, but haven't heard of any other. Although I'm almost sure the uber-expensive exotics like Koenigsegg and Pagani do that, but you're talking almost 7 figures. Not a big deal for most people.
#16
Le Mans Master
Every corvette I have ever owned C4,C5, C5z, both C6z's all had orange peel, its called mass production, the newer tooling might help, but it will always be there.
This is not a hand built car, its some of the areas that GM has to skimp on to keep price down.
I had a couple hairs in both my 99 and 2000 C5 coupes
It really never bothered me
This is not a hand built car, its some of the areas that GM has to skimp on to keep price down.
I had a couple hairs in both my 99 and 2000 C5 coupes
It really never bothered me
Last edited by NytmereZ; 08-26-2013 at 07:51 PM.
#17
Le Mans Master
Ferraris and Porsches (as well as almost every car on the road) have orange peel. Do you think a cheapo Corvette won't have any? Getting rid of orange peel requires a very labor-intensive process that nobody does. I don't recall if Rolls Royce or Bentley do some 'paint correction' to eliminate most of it, but haven't heard of any other. Although I'm almost sure the uber-expensive exotics like Koenigsegg and Pagani do that, but you're talking almost 7 figures. Not a big deal for most people.
#18
Instructor
I think what bothers me about the orange peel is like I mentioned before it can be buffed/polished out of the clear coat but the factory won't spend the hour in labor to make it look perfect. I guess they figure they can blame it on the inferior products they are now mandated to use by the EPA and this is a result and everyone has the same problem regardless of brand.
It unfortunate some more time was not spent to find a better grade low VOC clear coat but you see this same issue with many of the non-freon based cleaning agents used in manufacturing, nowhere near as effective but then again saving the planet.
In the end spend another $100.00 in labor to give someone the perfect car, not going to happen in todays day and age unless your paying an extreme amount for the car.
It unfortunate some more time was not spent to find a better grade low VOC clear coat but you see this same issue with many of the non-freon based cleaning agents used in manufacturing, nowhere near as effective but then again saving the planet.
In the end spend another $100.00 in labor to give someone the perfect car, not going to happen in todays day and age unless your paying an extreme amount for the car.
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Then there really would be no excuse for one off, hand built would there be ? Sadly, the LRG car that was at the Lone Star Classic had it. It was covered in another thread.