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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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From the info on Kerbeck's cars none of the delivered cars had the exposed carbon fiber option. All cars had the painted roof or the transparent option.

If I had my car I wouldn't be on the forum but after you put your new baby to bed tonight put some pictures up and let us know if you have the exposed carbon fiber roof!
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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From the info on Kerbeck's cars none of the delivered cars had the exposed carbon fiber option. All cars had the painted roof or the transparent option.

If I had my car I wouldn't be on the forum but after you put your new baby to bed tonight put some pictures up and let us know if you have the exposed carbon fiber roof!
Just saw 2 at my local dealer and both had exposed carbon fiber and it looked amazing.
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Just saw 2 at my local dealer and both had exposed carbon fiber and it looked amazing.
Exactly why I have no problem waiting 2, 3 or even 4 months to have one.
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The one I saw today was painted roof (but carbon fiber)...
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FWIW...I was at Kerbeck's today and spoke at length with Sam and Dave (both very nice guys especially considering I ordered my car from Criswell).
Sam told me that from what he was informed the issue with the exposed CF roof is the paint "lip" where it is painted on each side to blend into the B-pillar. There has apparently been a bit of a "step" between the paint and the exposed CF finish, which the factory did not like.
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FWIW...I was at Kerbeck's today and spoke at length with Sam and Dave (both very nice guys especially considering I ordered my car from Criswell).
Sam told me that from what he was informed the issue with the exposed CF roof is the paint "lip" where it is painted on each side to blend into the B-pillar. There has apparently been a bit of a "step" between the paint and the exposed CF finish, which the factory did not like.
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At Laguna Seca and at the Marina Airport media event that step was very obvious. It really surprised me since it is like the paint went on after the clear coat for the CF and no effort as made to make that paint line transition smooth like you would expect. Picture laying paint tape down, painting, then removing the tape. That is the type of step the factory is probably objecting to.
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Originally Posted by MoabC6
At Laguna Seca and at the Marina Airport media event that step was very obvious. It really surprised me since it is like the paint went on after the clear coat for the CF and no effort as made to make that paint line transition smooth like you would expect. Picture laying paint tape down, painting, then removing the tape. That is the type of step the factory is probably objecting to.
I would think, and I'm no expert on the finish they are applying to the CF tops, that the color would be laid on the roof and then the clear would be applied.
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I would think, and I'm no expert on the finish they are applying to the CF tops, that the color would be laid on the roof and then the clear would be applied.
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That's what I expected, but that is not how the CF roofs were painted. I was interested since at the time I was considering getting a dual roof package with transparent top and wanted the transparent top painted like the exposed CF top. I was really surprised that there was such a sharp joggle in the paint too.
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Originally Posted by MoabC6
That's what I expected, but that is not how the CF roofs were painted. I was interested since at the time I was considering getting a dual roof package with transparent top and wanted the transparent top painted like the exposed CF top. I was really surprised that there was such a sharp joggle in the paint too.
I wonder if the coating on the exposed CF tops is incompatible with the clear coat they would place on the entire roof after painting the color on the edges.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
FWIW...I was at Kerbeck's today and spoke at length with Sam and Dave (both very nice guys especially considering I ordered my car from Criswell).
Sam told me that from what he was informed the issue with the exposed CF roof is the paint "lip" where it is painted on each side to blend into the B-pillar. There has apparently been a bit of a "step" between the paint and the exposed CF finish, which the factory did not like.
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I very much appreciate GM getting this "right" regardless of the delay. I know the delay is painful but the attention to getting the best result is what is most important IMO.
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Originally Posted by Snorman
FWIW...I was at Kerbeck's today and spoke at length with Sam and Dave (both very nice guys especially considering I ordered my car from Criswell).
Sam told me that from what he was informed the issue with the exposed CF roof is the paint "lip" where it is painted on each side to blend into the B-pillar. There has apparently been a bit of a "step" between the paint and the exposed CF finish, which the factory did not like.
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That's an easy fix on future roofs, but a bit more time to rework on those completed. If this is true, I don't see a long term constraint hold.
The only question is, members spotted this months ago, when did GM QC?
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Originally Posted by Medic Man
Just saw 2 at my local dealer and both had exposed carbon fiber and it looked amazing.
I know that was probably way down the gawking list but did you notice the "step" in the paint trim? Also, which dealer? Thanks.
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I know that was probably way down the gawking list but did you notice the "step" in the paint trim? Also, which dealer? Thanks.
I did not notice the step. It looked like a nice transition. Auto Nation Chevy in Pembroke Pines FL.
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Painting the body color the outer 3 inches on the CF roof is not that easy in a mass production environment.

It has to be masked, scuffed, painted, unmasked, sanded to level the tape line, then cleared. If you don't remove the masking tape too soon or too late, you will get an ugly line that will have to be redone. Not that simple.

I was at COTA yesterday and the yellow car had the CF roof. The painted edge was perfectly done. A very slight ridge where the yellow paint ends that naturally has to be there, but it was straight and smooth.
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A very slight ridge where the yellow paint ends that naturally has to be there, but it was straight and smooth.
My underline.

Not true. Quite the opposite in fact. If done correctly, there should be no noticeable transition. IMHO. Wonder if BG gets the CF tops already clear coated and then shoots the body color during production. But I've only seen the pre-production units.
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I kinda wish it didn't have the stripe. I want the roof straight cf
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Not sure about the paint issue being the cause of the 4300 Nashville status. I saw at least one post made stating his car is the clear roof and went to 4300. It also appears as though only low vin cars are going 4300. mine being one of them.
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I have a Green/Brownstone C7 in Transit and it has both Carbon and the Transparent Option....Was told the Transparent is inside the hatch....Harvey
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Originally Posted by RussM05
Painting the body color the outer 3 inches on the CF roof is not that easy in a mass production environment.

It has to be masked, scuffed, painted, unmasked, sanded to level the tape line, then cleared. If you don't remove the masking tape too soon or too late, you will get an ugly line that will have to be redone. Not that simple.

I was at COTA yesterday and the yellow car had the CF roof. The painted edge was perfectly done. A very slight ridge where the yellow paint ends that naturally has to be there, but it was straight and smooth.
The only problem I see is drying times (x2) and storage space while that happens. The color trim paint would need to be fairly hard/dry in order to sand and the clear would need to be fairly hard if shiped. How fast can you force dry (heat) paint on new carbon fiber without warping, I suspect not so much.
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Originally Posted by MoabC6
My underline.

Not true. Quite the opposite in fact. If done correctly, there should be no noticeable transition. IMHO. Wonder if BG gets the CF tops already clear coated and then shoots the body color during production. But I've only seen the pre-production units.
Well, of course, it can be done so it's perfectly smooth. When I said "naturally" I was thinking of a typical mass production environment. Custom cars are painted all the time to eliminate that edge, but it takes too much time to do that in a mass production situation.

I've painted many vehicles and to totally eliminate the raised edge where the paint meets the exposed carbon fiber, it would require multiple clear coats and sanding until the painted edge is buried in clear. I doubt the Corvette factory paint department would spend that much time. The roof I saw had a very slightly raised & rounded edge which I found to be acceptable.

Finally, I wonder how much the tint clear coat paints affect the appearance of the exposed carbon fiber. Remember, it has to match the area behind the roof, too.

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