New Vette Engine Mod Limited?
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Drifting
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New Vette Engine Mod Limited?
With the variable cam timing and the sophisticated engine control systems. . . are the new vettes gonna be mod limited like a porsche and other high end sports cars?....I hope not. anyone with early info on this?
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I don't think you'll have to worry about that for the next five years or until your warranty expires and by then I'm sure someone will come along with something.
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So what if they are? Maybe then you could be purchasing something else. Lots of folks will sell you their C6s.
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Sema is going to be really interesting. But, my thinking is that with several years of Camaro tuning already there, the aftermarket markers already have some ideas on what they will do with the LT1.
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Not to mention Callaway. Very soon there is going to be a plethora of options from various sources. The demand for the base platform and it's potential for SERIOUS exploitation makes this A CERTAINTY !!! And if you think for one moment otherwise...
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I think Callaway has already announced they have cracked the Variable Valve timing issues.
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Yeah. I'm just trying to point out that many cars with VVT have huge aftermarkets. I mean, VVT started getting mainstream in the 90s, so I don't see why one would think the new LT1 was some special engine that was not mod-able
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For a while, a while back, it was rumored it would take years to crack the ECU code. HP tuners have announced they've already done it I believe.
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Still, the aftermarket knows very well what it wants to do. There's some really clever people out there and if there's a way to make a buck, they will find it.
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What's unique about the LT1 though is that it uses VVT on a push rod and direct injection. The software is completely different as are mechanical issues.
Still, the aftermarket knows very well what it wants to do. There's some really clever people out there and if there's a way to make a buck, they will find it.
Still, the aftermarket knows very well what it wants to do. There's some really clever people out there and if there's a way to make a buck, they will find it.
The VVT + DI combination is obviously brand new, but it's not really some revolutionary concept. It'll take some R&D from the aftermarket to get things sorted out, but there's no reason why it'll be "mod limited" unless it turns out the factory parts are already optimized for power (doubtful coming from GM).
The reason Porsches and other high end sports cars are have smaller aftermarket is because there's not a lot of HP left on the table and the overall demand for those items are smaller since they're more expensive cars. The LS motors pick up some 20+ hp from exhaust headers, where as the high end sports cars generally don't gain much since their factory stuff is fairly optimized.
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[QUOTE=onspeed;1584985852]HPTuners and EFI Live are both supposed to have full tuning of the ECU now.
And pushrod or not, it still utilizes a cam phaser to change the timing. If Gen4 motors had VVT - the L92 in the 07 trucks/SUVs and the L99 in the Camaro.
Because I have a L99 Camaro....I believe there is a lot of tuning in the cam phaser. Also, I believe the C7 is going to have some monster torque with the VVT tuning accompanied by the bolt-ons. 500 rwhp easy with just a small cam. Hold your breath
And pushrod or not, it still utilizes a cam phaser to change the timing. If Gen4 motors had VVT - the L92 in the 07 trucks/SUVs and the L99 in the Camaro.
Because I have a L99 Camaro....I believe there is a lot of tuning in the cam phaser. Also, I believe the C7 is going to have some monster torque with the VVT tuning accompanied by the bolt-ons. 500 rwhp easy with just a small cam. Hold your breath
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The pcm is a computer. No computer is unhackable. Period. End of story.
If a certain car "can't" be tuned right now that's been out, then the demand/profit isn't there. With a corvette/camaro/possibly caddy/trucks, the demand is there.
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Several cars have been declared unhackable in the past.
The pcm is a computer. No computer is unhackable. Period. End of story.
If a certain car "can't" be tuned right now that's been out, then the demand/profit isn't there. With a corvette/camaro/possibly caddy/trucks, the demand is there.
The pcm is a computer. No computer is unhackable. Period. End of story.
If a certain car "can't" be tuned right now that's been out, then the demand/profit isn't there. With a corvette/camaro/possibly caddy/trucks, the demand is there.
if someone can make it then they can undo it. heads are done
cam is ready
ecu tuning is ready
supercharger in a few weeks
turbo..??(LMR?)
c.a.i is ready
I figure in about a month or less all this will be available for sale.