C7 QC issues
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C7 QC issues
I feel for you guys, but history has shown that first year production is usually a shakeout period. Even with the 97 C5, they had to correct a bunch of stuff in the 98 production year. That’s why I’m glad I ended up with a 98. If you have the patients, one option might be to refuse to take delivery until the 2015 model rolls out because the 2014 car might be stigmatized like the 97 was even though they were really just minor issues.
Some of the 97 C5 Recalls
Steering: column locking:anti-theft device Recall
Seat belts: front Recall
Suspension: rear Recall
Fuel system: gasoline:storage:tank assembly Recall
Seat belts: front:anchorage Recall
Some of the 97 C5 Recalls
Steering: column locking:anti-theft device Recall
Seat belts: front Recall
Suspension: rear Recall
Fuel system: gasoline:storage:tank assembly Recall
Seat belts: front:anchorage Recall
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Your thread title is misleading.
Every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues. I owned a '97 (didn't have any of the issues you listed above) and it was one of the most problem free cars I have ever owned. Same can be said for my 2005.
While I thank you for your empathy (sympathy), I'm quite pleased to have a 2014 on order and I'll be even more pleased once I'm driving it in a few weeks.
Every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues. I owned a '97 (didn't have any of the issues you listed above) and it was one of the most problem free cars I have ever owned. Same can be said for my 2005.
While I thank you for your empathy (sympathy), I'm quite pleased to have a 2014 on order and I'll be even more pleased once I'm driving it in a few weeks.
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Have to make a joke about all this QC. They are pumping these babies out like
crazy. Only so much checking can do. It would be a backlog nightmare
if it was really done like they lead it to be. How many spit off the line a day,
you going to have hundreds waiting to check a car out like a fine toothed comb.
""QC is just some porter, kid, old man/woman that walks around going. " Well'em it a look ok to me" Hundreds coming off the line,
by the end of the day, its oh heck tired of lookin at this chit."""
crazy. Only so much checking can do. It would be a backlog nightmare
if it was really done like they lead it to be. How many spit off the line a day,
you going to have hundreds waiting to check a car out like a fine toothed comb.
""QC is just some porter, kid, old man/woman that walks around going. " Well'em it a look ok to me" Hundreds coming off the line,
by the end of the day, its oh heck tired of lookin at this chit."""
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Have to make a joke about all this QC. They are pumping these babies out like
crazy. Only so much checking can do. It would be a backlog nightmare
if it was really done like they lead it to be. How many spit off the line a day,
you going to have hundreds waiting to check a car out like a fine toothed comb.
""QC is just some porter, kid, old man/woman that walks around going. " Well'em it a look ok to me" Hundreds coming off the line,
by the end of the day, its oh heck tired of lookin at this chit."""
crazy. Only so much checking can do. It would be a backlog nightmare
if it was really done like they lead it to be. How many spit off the line a day,
you going to have hundreds waiting to check a car out like a fine toothed comb.
""QC is just some porter, kid, old man/woman that walks around going. " Well'em it a look ok to me" Hundreds coming off the line,
by the end of the day, its oh heck tired of lookin at this chit."""
^ Is that supposed to be the Joke part ? ? ?
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Your thread title is misleading.
Every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues. I owned a '97 (didn't have any of the issues you listed above) and it was one of the most problem free cars I have ever owned. Same can be said for my 2005.
While I thank you for your empathy (sympathy), I'm quite pleased to have a 2014 on order and I'll be even more pleased once I'm driving it in a few weeks.
Every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues. I owned a '97 (didn't have any of the issues you listed above) and it was one of the most problem free cars I have ever owned. Same can be said for my 2005.
While I thank you for your empathy (sympathy), I'm quite pleased to have a 2014 on order and I'll be even more pleased once I'm driving it in a few weeks.
about the issues had. I have one of the first C6 convertibles and
it been junk. First year fuel injected trans am Junk. First year
turbo buick V6 another gm junk.
The first years are a test period.
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If it was, it wasn't funny...
I've seen GM's Quality folks in action and they are really good at what they do.
As far as the QC hold issue, not sure why so many feel they need to know what it is. What ever it is they are addressing it and until they feel it's necessary to announce it to the world, it is what it is....
And to the original OP, don't feel sorry for the early adopters. We'll just manange to muddle through somehow. AND will be waving at ya when we pass ya by!
I've seen GM's Quality folks in action and they are really good at what they do.
As far as the QC hold issue, not sure why so many feel they need to know what it is. What ever it is they are addressing it and until they feel it's necessary to announce it to the world, it is what it is....
And to the original OP, don't feel sorry for the early adopters. We'll just manange to muddle through somehow. AND will be waving at ya when we pass ya by!
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I had a 2001 and even after 4 years, I had multiple steering column lock issues. So, it was not confined to the 1st year C5 only.
I had a 2005 C6, and it was after the first 15,000 were built, and by then, they fixed the engine pulley issues. I had zero issues with that 1st year model of the C6. A few years later, I had many issues with roof separation. So, even after the 1st year, there were issues that occur later.
There is no reason that the 2014 model should have any issues. GM has plenty of experience figuring out how to build a new car.
There would be a lot less anxiety if GM would just tell what the QC hold is caused by. If it is computer related, fine no problem waiting. But, if it is something more problematic - let us know the truth.
I can wish - right ?
I had a 2005 C6, and it was after the first 15,000 were built, and by then, they fixed the engine pulley issues. I had zero issues with that 1st year model of the C6. A few years later, I had many issues with roof separation. So, even after the 1st year, there were issues that occur later.
There is no reason that the 2014 model should have any issues. GM has plenty of experience figuring out how to build a new car.
There would be a lot less anxiety if GM would just tell what the QC hold is caused by. If it is computer related, fine no problem waiting. But, if it is something more problematic - let us know the truth.
I can wish - right ?
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I feel for you guys, but history has shown that first year production is usually a shakeout period. Even with the 97 C5, they had to correct a bunch of stuff in the 98 production year. That’s why I’m glad I ended up with a 98. If you have the patients, one option might be to refuse to take delivery until the 2015 model rolls out because the 2014 car might be stigmatized like the 97 was even though they were really just minor issues.
Perhaps a little fact checking before you advocate your 98 as being better than the 'stigmatized 97'.
Some of the 1998 Model Year Chevrolet Corvette Recalls:
Recall ID # 41342 - STEERING:COLUMN LOCKING:ANTI-THEFT DEVICE
Recall ID # 8044 - SEAT BELTS:FRONT
Recall ID # 83421 - EXTERIOR LIGHTING
Recall ID # 85806 - EXTERIOR LIGHTING:HEADLIGHTS
PS: 97's & 98's - you're comparing 16 and 17 years old cars to the 2014's. Apples and Oranges.
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What a pointless thread.
Don't you think people buy the car knowing that there maybe issues? It is an accepted risk that your car may need to hit the lift and have a few minor issues fixed.
As long as the powertrain is solid, on ho, a burnt out LED means that they need to replace a headlight! End of the world!
Don't you think people buy the car knowing that there maybe issues? It is an accepted risk that your car may need to hit the lift and have a few minor issues fixed.
As long as the powertrain is solid, on ho, a burnt out LED means that they need to replace a headlight! End of the world!
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He's complaining about all the issues in a '97 yet he never owned one. Pretty much anyone can copy and paste recall statistics. I'm recounting my ownership experience in owning and driving one for 68,000 miles from 2001 through 2006. My point was to not generalize first year models as junk. I've owned a 1984, 1997 and 2005. I have a 2014 on order. They have been good to me. Your mileage may vary. All I stated was that every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues.
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With so much outsourcing you really give up control of your business and your end product is vulnerable to your supplier's screw ups. The biggest one that comes to mind was the Toyota throttle pedal
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I'm sorry. I didn't realize it was a contest. I'll try harder and study more next time.
He's complaining about all the issues in a '97 yet he never owned one. Pretty much anyone can copy and paste recall statistics. I'm recounting my ownership experience in owning and driving one for 68,000 miles from 2001 through 2006. My point was to not generalize first year models as junk. I've owned a 1984, 1997 and 2005. I have a 2014 on order. They have been good to me. Your mileage may vary. All I stated was that every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues.
He's complaining about all the issues in a '97 yet he never owned one. Pretty much anyone can copy and paste recall statistics. I'm recounting my ownership experience in owning and driving one for 68,000 miles from 2001 through 2006. My point was to not generalize first year models as junk. I've owned a 1984, 1997 and 2005. I have a 2014 on order. They have been good to me. Your mileage may vary. All I stated was that every model from every year from every manufacturer can have issues.
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I do have to laugh a bit about the so called first year issues Vettes have. My C 5 was a 2001 model and GM never could get the column lock right. My 2012 C6 had fit and finish issues with the hatch misaligned and the door to fender gap terrible. It also had its first harmonic balancer failure at 3000 miles.
So both of my Vettes were no where near first year and yet GM was still not able to solve the long term problems each had. I knew this up front when I bought them so when the time comes to buy a C 7 I fully expect to be dealing with some issue. That is just reality with a GM product.
So both of my Vettes were no where near first year and yet GM was still not able to solve the long term problems each had. I knew this up front when I bought them so when the time comes to buy a C 7 I fully expect to be dealing with some issue. That is just reality with a GM product.
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Well, this is yet another fun filled thread, by folks that have nothing better to do.
I will enjoy my C7 convertible (when it gets here in January) and you Chicken Littles can stay in the house, on your computers, and Nostradamas your way through life. If you predict ENOUGH times, you're bound to be right every now and then.
Jimmy
I will enjoy my C7 convertible (when it gets here in January) and you Chicken Littles can stay in the house, on your computers, and Nostradamas your way through life. If you predict ENOUGH times, you're bound to be right every now and then.
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Well, this is yet another fun filled thread, by folks that have nothing better to do.
I will enjoy my C7 convertible (when it gets here in January) and you Chicken Littles can stay in the house, on your computers, and Nostradamas your way through life. If you predict ENOUGH times, you're bound to be right every now and then.
Jimmy
I will enjoy my C7 convertible (when it gets here in January) and you Chicken Littles can stay in the house, on your computers, and Nostradamas your way through life. If you predict ENOUGH times, you're bound to be right every now and then.
Jimmy
Any year, any model, any manufacturer could be a lemon. And relying on reviews, Consumer Reports, R&T, C&D or any other source isn't going to keep that lemon from being produced. Is the likelihood higher in the first model year? Yep, at least for design flaws. But I've owned highly rated new cars (not just first year models) that spent more time in the shop than on the road. And the worst weren't even American made.
I owned one Japanese POS that was one of the top rated cars for a couple of years running. And most of the problems were design flaws that they kept ignoring year after year! It's the only Japanese car I've owned and will be the last.
So I'll take my chances on a new Stingray. Can't be as bad as that POS.
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Supplier QC issues don't always appear in the first model year or two of a generation. Later model years can have their own problems often due to sloppy or missing QC and sometimes due to a change in suppliers.