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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Does cylinder deactivation function the same in all 5 driving modes? Or is it only in econo mode? I would like some new owners feedback on what they feel as it kicks in and out. Any hesitation and etc?
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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On a manual transmission car it will only operate in Eco mode and it only comes in to play in fourth gear or above.

The Automatic transmission car is a little different and will come and go as it needs to in Eco mode. I'm not certain about the other modes of operation in the auto.

Speaking specifically to the manual transmission car, I'd have to describe it as yes, you are aware that it comes on (if you are looking for it, you can feel it) but it is not "in your face".
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 01:27 PM
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Gonna cost money to get rid of
That´s the biggest impact it has on most of us I guess
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Let's see how long it takes before people are pulling fuses to kill the cylinder deactivation, then complain about gas mileage.

Sounds like an awesome car!!! GM got this one right!
Current MPG of new owners on the highway is at 31.xMPG!
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Let's see how long it takes before people are pulling fuses to kill the cylinder deactivation, then complain about gas mileage.

Sounds like an awesome car!!! GM got this one right!
Current MPG of new owners on the highway is at 31.xMPG!
If it works like the camaro, I ll rip anything I can out...it sucks...but since nobody has complained about jerkiness on the highway so far, I assume it works well.
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On a manual transmission car it will only operate in Eco mode and it only comes in to play in fourth gear or above.

The Automatic transmission car is a little different and will come and go as it needs to in Eco mode. I'm not certain about the other modes of operation in the auto.

Speaking specifically to the manual transmission car, I'd have to describe it as yes, you are aware that it comes on (if you are looking for it, you can feel it) but it is not "in your face".
According to Tadge in a recent video, on the automatic, it operates in all modes, more aggressively in eco mode. Also, does not operate in the sport mode using the paddle shifters, nor above 3000 rpm.
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Active Fuel Management (engine cylinder shuts off) 4-Cylinder Mode

. Normal with automatic transmission: The engine uses 8-cylinder mode when accelerating, but changes to 4-cylinder mode when coasting.

. With manual transmission: Active Fuel Management only active in Eco Mode.

. Off in Manual mode with automatic transmission unless in Eco mode.

. Eco keeps the engine in 4-cylinder mode unless heavy acceleration is needed.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 01:46 PM
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I think GM's implementation is perfect. It's there for you to use if you want it. Many feared the car would default start in it and you'd have to turn it off every time you drove the car. With a manual car starting in touring mode you could never see AFM engage the entire life of the car.
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Owners manual says AFM is off in manual AT mode....(paddle shift)

I'm not concerned about gas mileage so unless it is pretty imperceptible, I'll kill it with a tune or a software module like the Range device.

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Originally Posted by darkmercury
Let's see how long it takes before people are pulling fuses to kill the cylinder deactivation, then complain about gas mileage.
Yup, can't wait to see them fuses gittin pulled!
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If it works like the camaro, I ll rip anything I can out...it sucks...but since nobody has complained about jerkiness on the highway so far, I assume it works well.
Wow... It's still early and not enough time has been spent in the cars. Give it a few months and people might start to notice things from day-to-day use.

I had a Dodge Magnum V8 (car not the truck) and would never know it was in 4 cylinder mode unless paying close attention on the highway.
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Originally Posted by darkmercury
Wow... It's still early and not enough time has been spent in the cars. Give it a few months and people might start to notice things from day-to-day use.

I had a Dodge Magnum V8 (car not the truck) and would never know it was in 4 cylinder mode unless paying close attention on the highway.

I will know within 10 miles if I like it or not, I've lived with AT AFM for a year now in the v8 camaro.....search the sister site here...it is not liked for good reason.....don't get all defensive, I think the vette will do it much better as nobody even on the reviewer side is bitching....on the camaro on a flat level patch of interstate at 70 mph, the car will jerk like it's going in and out of gear when it activates...and it's incessant.....once every couple minutes as it powers, then coasts.....

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What bothers me about cylinder deactivation is that my understanding of it is that with the added mass in the lifters, it restricts RPM. If that is true, then we may not see a 7,000 RPM limit again like on the LS7.
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Originally Posted by VIN666
Gonna cost money to get rid of
That´s the biggest impact it has on most of us I guess
just stay out of ECO mode.....oh I guess that only applies to the M7 tranny.
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I was referring to camming the motor / upping the rpm etc.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
I will know within 10 miles if I like it or not, I've lived with AT AFM for a year now in the v8 camaro.....search the sister site here...it is not liked for good reason.....don't get all defensive, I think the vette will do it much better as nobody even on the reviewer side is bitching....on the camaro on a flat level patch of interstate at 70 mph, the car will jerk like it's going in and out of gear when it activates...and it's incessant.....once every couple minutes as it powers, then coasts.....
Hmmmm..... it seems totally imperceptible on my wife's Tahoe the only time I know its on is the indicator on the dash shows 4 cyl mode.
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Hmmmm..... it seems totally imperceptible on my wife's Tahoe the only time I know its on is the indicator on the dash shows 4 cyl mode.
then we are good...i have no desire to buy any mod to kill it....there is no indicator that shows on the camaro or the vette....
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Originally Posted by Glen e
then we are good...i have no desire to buy any mod to kill it....there is no indicator that shows on the camaro or the vette....
Actually there is. There is an eco mode gauge that you can bring up on the IP display that will let you know when you are in 4 cylinder mode. It clearly displays V4 or V8 status.

Here is an example of the Eco index display:



Also notice in the instant fuel economy display you can see the V4/V8 indication:


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Actually there is. There is an eco mode gauge that you can bring up on the IP display that will let you know when you are in 4 cylinder mode. It clearly displays V4 or V8 status.
excellent....so Paul..and I'm sure you have driven the 6.2 auto camaro...on a highway that light would go on and off a lot - so much so it feels like someone is tugging the car from the rear - also in town traffic if you step on it there is a hesitation.....can we say those things are reduced/diminished on the Vette system? possible better software code to reduce the transition?

camaro discussion here:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283175
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Originally Posted by Glen e
excellent....so Paul..and I'm sure you have driven the 6.2 auto camaro...on a highway that light would go on and off a lot - so much so it feels like someone is tugging the car from the rear - also in town traffic if you step on it there is a hesitation.....can we say those things are reduced/diminished on the Vette system? possible better software code to reduce the transition?

camaro discussion here:
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283175
I haven't driven a Camaro that had that feature. Last one I was in was a 2010. I can say having driven the Stingray (manual) and experienced the Eco mode that the operation is painless. I have less time in the automatic and I didn't notice anything at all but didn't investigate as to whether or not I should have for the short time I had the car.
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