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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 02:18 AM
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Just got my Z51 a few days ago and love it! My question is , is the exhaust full open in sport mode like it is in track mode? Can't tell a difference. And if so then there are only two sound levels , Eco & tour then sport & track. Appreciate any enlightenment . Thanks
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Exhaust Tailpipe Flow Control Valve System — RPO NPP

The exhaust tailpipe flow control system is used to tune the exhaust note for high performance vehicles. This vehicle is equipped with two tailpipe exhaust valves. One in the left tailpipe and one in the right tailpipe. Each exhaust tailpipe valve is installed in the low restriction exhaust path of a dual outlet muffler, near the exhaust tip.
When a tailpipe exhaust valve is open, the low restriction exhaust path is opened to the atmosphere, and the exhaust note becomes more aggressive.
An output circuit from the chassis control module is used to control the actuator that opens the left and right exhaust tailpipe valves. The exhaust flow control valve opens and closes when the chassis control module commands the actuator by pulse width modulation of the control signal.
To provide a more aggressive exhaust note when the vehicle is started, the exhaust tailpipe valves are opened during an engine crank event during specific modes of operation if that option is available. Once the engine is running, accelerator pedal position, transmission gear and engine speed are used to determine the commanded state (open or closed) of the exhaust tailpipe valves.
There are four specific exhaust performance modes that result in different behavior of the exhaust tailpipe valves. These modes are:
• Weather/Eco Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves will be closed at all times when the engine is running.
• Tour Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are closed when the engine is idling and during normal/non-aggressive driving. Valves open during aggressive driving.
• Sport Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are open when the engine is idling and during most driving scenarios.
• Track Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are open at all times.
It is possible to personalize the exhaust sound. Select the Driving Mode menu and the following will be displayed:
• Exhaust
• Steering
Select Exhaust. This controls how robust or quiet the engine will sound. Select:
• Auto
• Stealth
• City
• Tour
• Sport
• Track
• Off
When the engine sound enhancement is turned Off via the personalization menu, the exhaust tailpipe valves will be put into track mode no matter which vehicle mode (Weather/Eco, Tour, Sport, or Track) is displayed on the drivers instrument panel.
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Exhaust Tailpipe Flow Control Valve System — RPO NPP

The exhaust tailpipe flow control system is used to tune the exhaust note for high performance vehicles. This vehicle is equipped with two tailpipe exhaust valves. One in the left tailpipe and one in the right tailpipe. Each exhaust tailpipe valve is installed in the low restriction exhaust path of a dual outlet muffler, near the exhaust tip.
When a tailpipe exhaust valve is open, the low restriction exhaust path is opened to the atmosphere, and the exhaust note becomes more aggressive.
An output circuit from the chassis control module is used to control the actuator that opens the left and right exhaust tailpipe valves. The exhaust flow control valve opens and closes when the chassis control module commands the actuator by pulse width modulation of the control signal.
To provide a more aggressive exhaust note when the vehicle is started, the exhaust tailpipe valves are opened during an engine crank event during specific modes of operation if that option is available. Once the engine is running, accelerator pedal position, transmission gear and engine speed are used to determine the commanded state (open or closed) of the exhaust tailpipe valves.
There are four specific exhaust performance modes that result in different behavior of the exhaust tailpipe valves. These modes are:
• Weather/Eco Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves will be closed at all times when the engine is running.
• Tour Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are closed when the engine is idling and during normal/non-aggressive driving. Valves open during aggressive driving.
• Sport Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are open when the engine is idling and during most driving scenarios.
• Track Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are open at all times.
It is possible to personalize the exhaust sound. Select the Driving Mode menu and the following will be displayed:
• Exhaust
• Steering
Select Exhaust. This controls how robust or quiet the engine will sound. Select:
• Auto
• Stealth
• City
• Tour
• Sport
• Track
• Off
When the engine sound enhancement is turned Off via the personalization menu, the exhaust tailpipe valves will be put into track mode no matter which vehicle mode (Weather/Eco, Tour, Sport, or Track) is displayed on the drivers instrument panel.
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Wow, that was fast and a great answer. Thank you very much!!
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I have a question then. Does the NPP drone with the A6???
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My NPP does not drone with my A6.. I use Eco mode 90% of the time. In my car, and I can only speak for my car, When I hit the throttle in Eco the exhaust goes LOUD. It acts a lot like the C6 NPP. This is just my experience.
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So it sounds to me like I'd still want a simple "on/off" switch like the "Mild to Wild" to make easy changes between open and closed without going thru mode changes. Unlike others, with my current C6 NPP I frequently switch between the two modes.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
Exhaust Tailpipe Flow Control Valve System — RPO NPP

The exhaust tailpipe flow control system is used to tune the exhaust note for high performance vehicles. This vehicle is equipped with two tailpipe exhaust valves. One in the left tailpipe and one in the right tailpipe. Each exhaust tailpipe valve is installed in the low restriction exhaust path of a dual outlet muffler, near the exhaust tip.
When a tailpipe exhaust valve is open, the low restriction exhaust path is opened to the atmosphere, and the exhaust note becomes more aggressive.
An output circuit from the chassis control module is used to control the actuator that opens the left and right exhaust tailpipe valves. The exhaust flow control valve opens and closes when the chassis control module commands the actuator by pulse width modulation of the control signal.
To provide a more aggressive exhaust note when the vehicle is started, the exhaust tailpipe valves are opened during an engine crank event during specific modes of operation if that option is available. Once the engine is running, accelerator pedal position, transmission gear and engine speed are used to determine the commanded state (open or closed) of the exhaust tailpipe valves.
There are four specific exhaust performance modes that result in different behavior of the exhaust tailpipe valves. These modes are:
• Weather/Eco Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves will be closed at all times when the engine is running.
• Tour Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are closed when the engine is idling and during normal/non-aggressive driving. Valves open during aggressive driving.
• Sport Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are open when the engine is idling and during most driving scenarios.
• Track Mode: Exhaust tailpipe valves are open at all times.
It is possible to personalize the exhaust sound. Select the Driving Mode menu and the following will be displayed:
• Exhaust
• Steering
Select Exhaust. This controls how robust or quiet the engine will sound. Select:
• Auto
• Stealth
• City
• Tour
• Sport
• Track
• Off
When the engine sound enhancement is turned Off via the personalization menu, the exhaust tailpipe valves will be put into track mode no matter which vehicle mode (Weather/Eco, Tour, Sport, or Track) is displayed on the drivers instrument panel.
Actually the exhaust menu only gives you a choice of Auto (controlled by drive mode selector) or Off (wide open at all times).
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 12:29 PM
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Actually the exhaust menu only gives you a choice of Auto (controlled by drive mode selector) or Off (wide open at all times).
This is correct, there are only 2 options that are available through the settings menu, Auto and Off.
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Originally Posted by Rad22
Actually the exhaust menu only gives you a choice of Auto (controlled by drive mode selector) or Off (wide open at all times).
Originally Posted by frikshun79
This is correct, there are only 2 options that are available through the settings menu, Auto and Off.
So does that mean this is another functional change that conflicts with published documentation? Or another system like the PTM that goes limp if the battery runs down a little and has to be reset by a dealer?

Anyone know for sure?

Okay to speculate and opine but would like a definitive answer if possible.
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I believe the "published" documentation is in post #2. The rest has been conjecture.
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
I believe the "published" documentation is in post #2. The rest has been conjecture.
My post is NOT CONJECTURE. I have a Stingray in my garage and that's all the menu shows. The documentation is in error. Evidently the menu was changed when the cars went into production.
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See my post #5. My car reacts differently then the description of Eco and weather modes when it comes to exhaust. I have no other explanation then how my system is working.
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Also the owner's manual that came with my car states that only the auto and off selections are available.
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Originally Posted by Walt White Coupe
So it sounds to me like I'd still want a simple "on/off" switch like the "Mild to Wild" to make easy changes between open and closed without going thru mode changes. Unlike others, with my current C6 NPP I frequently switch between the two modes.
Sorry for the misunderstanding but this makes my earlier conclusion even more valid.
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If you would like more of a distinction between the quiet and loud side, as well as more bass and volume in both modes - stay tuned for our Fusion exhaust system for the C7. It is currently in development (we'll also be bringing a CAI and engine management upgrades).

We currently offer the Fusion for C5 and C6. It replaces the OE mufflers and completely integrates with the stock NPP system - just hook up the stock vacuum lines to the Fusion.

In case folks are saying "C5 didn't come with NPP" - we have a retrofit kit. We have a retrofit kit for C6 as well.

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I apologize for reviving a 4-year old thread, but Jon@bbexhaust does not have private messaging enabled.

Jon, does Billy Boat have any plans of releasing a variable exhaust retrofit to C7s that did not come with NPP?
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Originally Posted by Mike Campbell
I have a question then. Does the NPP drone with the A6???
No drone, but I pulled the fuse so the control valve is always open.

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I could not get ride of Drone on my C6 fussion systemeven after buying resonators prior to the mufflers. If you do buy them get a special muffler size/packing as the norm is much loader than a std, NPP system for me.
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Originally Posted by vettman96
No drone, but I pulled the fuse so the control valve is always open.

And I don't see any exhaust options anywhere in the settings !
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Originally Posted by 97C5driver
And I don't see any exhaust options anywhere in the settings !
You need to have the NPP exhaust to have these options in the Settings.

The NPP exhaust has larger exhaust tips with valves in the outer ones.

To Check:

Go to Settings (gear icon) -> Driving Mode -> Engine Sound Management

If Engine Sound Management (ESM) exists as an option, you have NPP. Then you will have settings:

2014: Auto or Off
2015+: Stealth, Auto, Touring, Sport, Track

Off and Track ESM settings are equivalent. This keeps the NPP exhaust valves open as much as federal pass-by noise laws allow. So they will still close at times.

The whole fuse pull thing mentioned is for NPP equipped cars. This fuse #41 for 2014 and fuse #42 in 2015+ cars in the engine bay fuse box. Pulling this fuse prevents the NPP valves from ever closing, but it also disables controlling their functions from the ESM settings. This is why some have rigged up a switch (wired or wireless) to control the fuse.
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