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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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Someone must've said this about cell phones 25 years ago...what would anyone want to do other than make a phone call?
The difference is that your fictional person was grumpy and retrograde, whereas I was being curious and inquisitive. See the difference? Besides I must be living in the Silicon Valley because I want to live in the past.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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Me too. I'm going through the GM SDKs right now. I downloaded their "in-vehicle SDK" a few minutes ago and I'm checking it out. It's a lot of Java JAR files that seem pre-compiled, so I'm not sure why they're calling it an SDK. Even their PDFs are hardly helpful.

It seems that their Apps are HTML5/JS driven, which is good for me since that's the primary type of programming I do day to day.



That's interesting. Are they using wrappers? I haven't developed for Android or iOS yet. I only know what language they run on.
To tell you the truth, I've already gone through that months ago. Yeah, it's HTML5. You develop in Eclipse, wherein you point to the JAR files. When you click on the Start button, I found out that it starts a Jetty server which delivers the Web app page. You're supposed to debug through Eclipse, but their stuff doesn't work. But that's alright. You can also debug through Chrome. Which is probably better anyway. The Jetty server is what unwraps the JS library that's within the JARs, as I understood. I stopped looking at it because I couldn't find any business incentive.
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrous Oxide
To tell you the truth, I've already gone through that months ago. Yeah, it's HTML5. You develop in Eclipse, wherein you point to the JAR files. When you click on the Start button, I found out that it starts a Jetty server which delivers the Web app page. You're supposed to debug through Eclipse, but their stuff doesn't work. But that's alright. You can also debug through Chrome. Which is probably better anyway. The Jetty server is what unwraps the JS library that's within the JARs, as I understood. I stopped looking at it because I couldn't find any business incentive.
It appears GM's lawyers stripped any business incentive from the developer program. You probably read the terms of service as I did. It appears to me GM can take your program, including source code, without notification, and do with it what they want, without paying the author royalties, including selling it themselves and using it for their own purposes. I can't see anyone putting much effort and development money into this.

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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael A
It appears GM's lawyers stripped any business incentive from the developer program. You probably read the terms of service as I did. It appears to me GM can take your program, including source code, without notification, and do with it what they want, without paying the author royalties, including selling it themselves and using it for their own purposes. I can't see anyone putting much effort and development money into this.

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Eeek! That would be bad. My main problem was: as usual, it's easy to find new cool stuff to create. Like the idea that one poster suggested. It's quite another challenge to find a monetizeable one.

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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Nitrous Oxide
To tell you the truth, I've already gone through that months ago. Yeah, it's HTML5. You develop in Eclipse, wherein you point to the JAR files. When you click on the Start button, I found out that it starts a Jetty server which delivers the Web app page. You're supposed to debug through Eclipse, but their stuff doesn't work. But that's alright. You can also debug through Chrome. Which is probably better anyway. The Jetty server is what unwraps the JS library that's within the JARs, as I understood. I stopped looking at it because I couldn't find any business incentive.
Yeah, I have eclipse installed. I haven't set it up with this yet. I've been using it on another project. I'm not a fan of Eclipse, but the project I'm working on uses Smart GWT, so I had no choice.

I'll eventually get around to setting this up and playing with it.

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It appears GM's lawyers stripped any business incentive from the developer program. You probably read the terms of service as I did. It appears to me GM can take your program, including source code, without notification, and do with it what they want, without paying the author royalties, including selling it themselves and using it for their own purposes. I can't see anyone putting much effort and development money into this.

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I don't plan to sell or distribute what I make on here. It's really just for me because I want to control some apps (mostly Spotify) from MyLink. If GM sells off my code, so be it. At least there will be some happy people out there.

My guess, however, is that they won't be able to sell a Spotify app because of the legal issues around it.
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I looked through it but the real system parameters I would like to have access to is not available.
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