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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
What does this have anything to do with whether someone owns a C7 or not? By the responses even you can see it is absolutely irrelevant. But thanks for telling us what the OP was thinking
I agree that you dont need to have a C7 to comment intelligently on the topic. However, if you read the original post, the OP wasnt really looking for anyone's opinion or help. In his mind, he was helping out other owners (yes, I am making an assumption but I think most people would agree if they really read his original post). Then, a bunch of people start making fun of his post and acting like he is making stuff up. It is not that surprising that he would basically say he doesn't want to hear from non-owners and C7 owners can take or leave his comments. Even you should be able to see that.

People should be more respectful when someone reports they have an issue. Maybe the OP didn't handle his post in the optimal manner, but there was no reason to 'call BS' or suggest he is making stuff up. It happens too often on the forums. People seem over sensitive about others reporting problems. Thanks though.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 02:54 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by randy500
the battery goes straight to the starter and at the starter all the other electrical systems are powered by connecting to the main input to the starter by separate leads, 3 or so, engine, lighting, computer. each have a fusible link to prevent a wiring fire. Seems likely that the computer or engine fusible link burned due to a short which could be caused by a misrouted wire that vibrated on something and wore through. I will almost guarantee that is what happened. When that happens there is no power to the start button or the rest of the car and hence not able to open the doors, etc.
Exactly. Don't have a C7 but have had this happen to me in my track C6 due to a faulty rear-mount battery install. The only good thing was that it happened in a grass parking lot and we were not in the car (indian wells open), but I can confirm that this is a nightmare. The car is 100% dead - can't open doors, can't tow, can't get to anything to revive it. The tow guy could not even get a slim jim into the door. Oh, and the spare key for the trunk you ask? Lock cylinder broke off as we tried to open it. Cost me $1,500 by the time we were done, and luckily it was a short tow when we figured out how to get it on the truck, 7 hours later. I would hate to have this happen on a road trip far from home.

And to the doubters - the joke is on you. This is a mass-production car. If this happened once, it will happen again. It is probably a faulty electronic part. As the OP says, listen or don't, but you have been advised.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by stducrider
Please read OP's thread "Priceless". The fuel tank and driveline were on the floor for fuel level sensor replacement the day he took delivery at Hendricks in KS. They said "it will be ok".
I took a look at this thread. Sounds like a pretty significant repair was made before delivery. I suspect his current situation may be related to this repair. In any event, I hope it is fixed quickly.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 04:23 PM
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I have my starter rebuilt each year so I don't run into this issue.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 04:27 PM
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What did OnStar say??
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 05:52 PM
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The OP is not a technician and most likely has a very limited if any knowledge of how the various systems on the C7 operate. Once the dealer repairs the problem we will know what went wrong.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 07:35 PM
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I have my starter rebuilt each year so I don't run into this issue.

^ Yes, but truthfully, that's just one part of your annual peace of mind engine rebuild . . . . . .

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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudeurgettnavette
I have my starter rebuilt each year so I don't run into this issue.
Uh,your're kidding, right?

Having been an avid reader of the Forum for at least 5-6 years, I confess I've never heard of annual starter rebuilds. As a remedy for a anything. At any time.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudeurgettnavette
I have my starter rebuilt each year so I don't run into this issue.
Originally Posted by Raisin Man
Uh,your're kidding, right?

Having been an avid reader of the Forum for at least 5-6 years, I confess I've never heard of annual starter rebuilds. As a remedy for a anything. At any time.
As a 70 year old gear head who has owned more cars than I can remember, some of them kept for two years and some for six, seven or eight years, I have NEVER heard this line before in my life. I've never done this, and none of my friends has ever done this.

I've replaced one starter in my lifetime, that back in the early 70s. And I can't remember any of my friends ever replacing a starter.
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Old Nov 3, 2013 | 11:55 PM
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We finally have enough information to present a likely scenario:

- It started with a supplier problem, a fuel tank sending unit that failed just prior to delivery.

- The selling dealer in KS diagnosed and replaced the defective part, which required dropping the driveline and fuel tanks.

- it's likely that during reassembly a plastic coated wire got misrouted and/or pinched under a metal part. With heat and a few hundred miles the plastic coating of the wire was penetrated, allowing the core of the wire to short out to metal.

- The short circuit blew a fusible link or a fuse and the car went dead.

- The driver shifted to park to restart the car but it was dead.

- Now the car wouldn't come out of park because of no power to the park interlock

- Neither the owner nor the tow truck driver nor the policemen knew how to manually release the new model's automatic shifter from Park when there is an electrical failure so they had to use dollies to move the car. (On more common cars most tow truck operators know how to get to the park-lock release when a car is dead).

Fusible links have protected cars' major circuits for many years, keeping cars fom going up in smoke. Many modern GM cars have gone to big Maxi-fuses instead. If the C7 was still protected by fusible links the starter would indeed have to be removed to get to the fusible links above it.

Hopefully the OP will have his car back within days and will update us with the final story



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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 06:28 AM
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 06:56 AM
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Tough luck, hopefully a random occurance that can be quickly fixed.
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Old Nov 13, 2013 | 07:07 AM
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 03:59 PM
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So what was it OP?
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OddJob1971
If you car was running at the intersection then it is not a starter issue. Hence the name of the part, starter. Once the car is running the starter plays no part in the car running. Oh and by the way, I have a C7.
Really I thought power was drawn though the starter !
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dudeurgettnavette
I have my starter rebuilt each year so I don't run into this issue.
Sure you do!
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 11:09 PM
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So what was it OP?
Does anyone know the ultimate outcome? Doesn't seem fair to everyone else to start a thread like this and not promptly disclose the outcome.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rcallen484
Does anyone know the ultimate outcome? Doesn't seem fair to everyone else to start a thread like this and not promptly disclose the outcome.
I agree with you.

I presume a noob with 20 whole posts may not know any better.
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Old Nov 14, 2013 | 11:45 PM
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Again,
If this is real and the OP just doesn't understand what happened, I am sorry for them.

On the other hand the facts are sketchy and don't add up as reported.

Sounds sort of like: Do you want to see that pot of gold I have hidden in my cave?
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