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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:22 AM
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Anyone else a bit surprised at just how many C7's will be produced for 2014. I had originally expected this first year C7 to be somewhat limited and thus help to maintain resale value, future demand etc.

Apparently that's not the case from all appearances.

According to published figures, production for 2012 totalled 11,647 and 2013 totalled 13,466 units.

My C7 was built Jan 2014 and is already #12,107 and there is still @ 6 months of production left. That would suggest they are on track to produce more than DOUBLE last years numbers.

Obviously there is a high demand for the cars right now, but the higher production quantity does not bode well for future resale values.

Anyone else surprised?
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:40 AM
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Anyone else surprised?
Not at all...Chevy's job is to sell cars and return gains to their shareholders, NOT to insure your future resale. They need to get a return on the C7 investment. If the demand is there, they'll build as many as they can. It's been reported that BG's production capacity is now 40K/Yr. I'm sure GM would like to sell every one of those..
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:47 AM
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Not at all. First year C6 production was around 37,000. As of last week, when taking museum delivery, I was told they have produced about 20,000 and are building at a rate of 18 per hour. Most days they are working overtime.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:52 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it. Lower production runs don't guarantee higher value. If no one wants the car and only 1,000 were built they would be worthless. A strong demand for new vette also indicates a strong demand for used vette. May people can't pay full dollar value for a new one but will gladly pay less for a used one. I think the resale market will be strong. The car has a strong demand so enjoy it.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Future resale value is not an issue for me. Vettes do retain value better than average. And, you can bet GM wants to sell as many as possible. They are in business to make money.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:57 AM
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I had the good fortune to hear Doug Fehan speak recently. Chevy expects(hopes) the C7 will attract many new buyers. The Porsche people will be tempted to switch. The car is being well received in Europe. Etc etc. If they are right don't look for any big discounts next year, also resale values should hold up.

In addition many Cadillac models are getting great reviews. Gm is slowly but surely establishing itself as a genuine world class car manufacturer. Let all hope they keep going.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenmcp
Future resale value is not an issue for me. Vettes do retain value better than average. And, you can bet GM wants to sell as many as possible. They are in business to make money.
Resale doesn't bother me either. Had the C5 the for 13 years and hope to have this one the same.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 12:09 PM
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Not surprising. I got these numbers from http://tech.corvettecentral.com/


C6:

Code:
Year	Cpe	Conv	Z06	ZR1	GS  	GS Conv 427 	Total
2005	26728	10644						37372
2006	16598	11151	6272					34021
2007	21484	10918	8159					40561
2008	20030	7549	7731					35310
2009	8737	3343	3461	1415				16956
2010	3054	1003	518	1577	3707	2335		12194
2011	3112	780	906	806	5212	2782		13598
2012	2820	621	478	404	5056	2268		11647
2013	2597	720	471	482	4908	1736	2552	13466
TOTAL	215,125
C5 (first year was a VERY short production run):

Code:
Year	Coupe	Conv	FRC/Z06	Total
1997	9752	 	 	9752
1998	19235	11849	 	31084
1999	18078	11161	4031	33270
2000	18113	13479	2090	33682
2001	15681	14173	5768	35622
2002	10634	8784	5869	25287
2003	12812	14022	8635	35469
2004	16165	12216	5683	34064
TOTAL	238,230
My C7 was built on 2/13 and the VIN is in the mid 15000 number. I'm guessing that with a run date until 8/8 they will hit the 30,000 mark.

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Great news. I am very glad that the car is selling well. There won't be a Corvette in the future if this great car doesn't sell well.
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Originally Posted by MikeC4C5C6...C7
Great news. I am very glad that the car is selling well. There won't be a Corvette in the future if this great car doesn't sell well.
Absolutely, I want to own a C8 and C9.
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Old Feb 15, 2014 | 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HalfMoon
Not surprising. I got these numbers from http://tech.corvettecentral.com/


C6:

Code:
Year	Cpe	Conv	Z06	ZR1	GS  	GS Conv 427 	Total
2005	26728	10644						37372
2006	16598	11151	6272					34021
2007	21484	10918	8159					40561
2008	20030	7549	7731					35310
2009	8737	3343	3461	1415				16956
2010	3054	1003	518	1577	3707	2335		12194
2011	3112	780	906	806	5212	2782		13598
2012	2820	621	478	404	5056	2268		11647
2013	2597	720	471	482	4908	1736	2552	13466
TOTAL	215,125
C5 (first year was a VERY short production run):

Code:
Year	Coupe	Conv	FRC/Z06	Total
1997	9752	 	 	9752
1998	19235	11849	 	31084
1999	18078	11161	4031	33270
2000	18113	13479	2090	33682
2001	15681	14173	5768	35622
2002	10634	8784	5869	25287
2003	12812	14022	8635	35469
2004	16165	12216	5683	34064
TOTAL	238,230
My C7 was built on 2/13 and the VIN is in the mid 15000 number. I'm guessing that with a run date until 8/8 they will hit the 30,000 mark.
Also add to your VIN the 1050 Premier editions they have built but have unique VIN's starting at 001.
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Originally Posted by MikeC4C5C6...C7
Great news. I am very glad that the car is selling well. There won't be a Corvette in the future if this great car doesn't sell well.
Originally Posted by Glenmcp
Absolutely, I want to own a C8 and C9.
I agree - keep 'em coming GM!!!!!

To the OP - "the higher production quantity does not bode well for future resale values." Anyone who buys a sports car anticipating resale values should be thinking about "seat of the pants, shock and awe'' values. Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by JoesC5
Also add to your VIN the 1050 Premier editions they have built but have unique VIN's starting at 001.
And convertibles, I believe they are in another sequence as well. That's why I have no problem believing the numbers will be high this year. They are selling them as fast as they can. I highly doubt any allocations have gone refused.
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Originally Posted by ksowul
I agree - keep 'em coming GM!!!!!

To the OP - "the higher production quantity does not bode well for future resale values." Anyone who buys a sports car anticipating resale values should be thinking about "seat of the pants, shock and awe'' values. Just sayin'.
I view my sports cars the same as I do my daily drivers. I know that one day I will trade/sell my sport car for a new model, the same as I do with my daily driver.

In both cases I am concerned about resale value down the pike as I don't want to pay anymore for my new car (sport car or 4 door sedan) than I have to.

When I traded my 10.5 year old C5 in on my new C6 Z06, the resale value(price it sold for used) of the C5 was 53% of it's original MSRP. that amounted to around $10,000 I saved vs if the resale value had only been 25% of the original MSRP..
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Originally Posted by ksowul
To the OP - "the higher production quantity does not bode well for future resale values." Anyone who buys a sports car anticipating resale values should be thinking about "seat of the pants, shock and awe'' values. Just sayin'.


I buy these cars expecting that I am simply throwing the money away, never to be seen again. I get a pleasant surprise when they actually DO retain their value pretty well. It's all about perspective.

In this case, KBB predicts a pretty good resale value on the C7. It came in #5 on their top 10 list, estimating 67% value at 36 months and 52.3% at 60 months.

http://www.kbb.com/new-cars/best-res...e-top-10-cars/
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My built in October, 1996 '97 C5 has terrific resale value....over a third of what I paid for it new. Not many other domestic 97 vehicles can say the same thing, if any at all. That being said, I did not buy it for resale at all...I'm in it for several other reasons, like most. Add into the mix collector car insurance, 32 mpg highway, and all I can say is what a bargain to drive.
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And convertibles, I believe they are in another sequence as well. That's why I have no problem believing the numbers will be high this year. They are selling them as fast as they can. I highly doubt any allocations have gone refused.
They built a total of 1050 Premier editions(500 coupes and 550 convertibles).

If you are referring to the base C7 convertible, they are included in the VIN's of the base coupe, and not separately.
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They built a total of 1050 Premier editions(500 coupes and 550 convertibles).

If you are referring to the base C7 convertible, they are included in the VIN's of the base coupe, and not separately.
Thanks, I had seen talk of convertible VINs and wasn't certain, never paid much attention as I'm not a convertible guy. I did that once and found out it's not for me.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
My built in October, 1996 '97 C5 has terrific resale value....over a third of what I paid for it new. Not many other domestic 97 vehicles can say the same thing, if any at all. That being said, I did not buy it for resale at all...I'm in it for several other reasons, like most. Add into the mix collector car insurance, 32 mpg highway, and all I can say is what a bargain to drive.
The 1997 C5 didn't go into production in 1996. It was a couple of months into 1997 when they started production. That's why they built less than 10,000 of the 97's as they had only a 4 month production run, and then the 98's started into production in June of 1997.
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Originally Posted by HalfMoon
Thanks, I had seen talk of convertible VINs and wasn't certain, never paid much attention as I'm not a convertible guy. I did that once and found out it's not for me.
Same here. I bought a 1957 Ford convertible in 1963 and said that's the only one I'll ever own. My 56 Vette is a convertible but I run the removal hardtop on it most of the time. Only time it's run as a convertible is when I'm asked to carry a young beautiful girl in a parade and she sits on the rear cover.
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