C7 General Discussion General C7 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Ebrake with manual question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:28 PM
  #1  
Sin City's Avatar
Sin City
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,671
Likes: 4,144
2020 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default Ebrake with manual question

Ok, there has to be some secret how to make the ebrake work because if not, this car is going to be impossible to creep up freeway ramps without crashing.

I tried to pull this car into my garage today from a standstill. The entry is uphill so the car wants to roll down backwards.

The ebrake releases before the clutch grabs! What's the deal there?

So, as you move the clutch out, the car starts to move backward. If you release the clutch too fast, then it grabs leaps forward.

This car should not move backwards until you get some friction on the clutch and can modulate it. Sorry but I don't have 3 legs -- one for the clutch, one for the gas, and one to hold the brake. That's what my ARM used to be for.

With a manual handbrake, you can hold it until you get some clutch friction and then slowly release it. With the ebrake, its all up to the computer, which appears to suck.

Is there something I'm missing here? If not, this car will be useless in LA.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:40 PM
  #2  
KenHorse's Avatar
KenHorse
Team Owner
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 136,140
Likes: 2,432
From: I live my life by 2 rules. 1) Never share everything you know. 2)
St. Jude Donor '11-'12-'13, '16-'17-'18
Default

I've been driving sticks since I first learned to drive (quite a while now!) and I've never had a problem by not using the e-brake.

Then again, I do believe the C7 has a feature for starting up a hill. Check the manual?
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:40 PM
  #3  
-CM-'s Avatar
-CM-
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 2,867
Likes: 66
From: . Wyoming .
Default

Don't use the ebrake. Instead, rely on the hill assist. It takes a bit of getting use to, but it works very well. It will engage on an incline, and you just need to modulate the clutch to get going. If you start to roll backwards, step on the brake then try again. Again, it works very well, but takes a bit of practice.

Here's my driveway, so you can see I know what I'm talking about.

Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:46 PM
  #4  
Adrian-S's Avatar
Adrian-S
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 750
Likes: 0
From: Orlando FL
Default

The hill assist surprised me on the way home, I was rushing to not drift backwards with a car behind me as a light turned green in a small town at night, and the car didn't roll for a second or two! Freaked me out. I recommend finding an incline to test the hill assist a dozen times to get used to the timing of it.

Ps- sorry we weren't able to meet up at the museum during delivery, we will have to plan another time.

-adrian
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:47 PM
  #5  
Sin City's Avatar
Sin City
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,671
Likes: 4,144
2020 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by -CM-
Don't use the ebrake. Instead, rely on the hill assist. It takes a bit of getting use to, but it works very well. It will engage on an incline, and you just need to modulate the clutch to get going. If you start to roll backwards, step on the brake then try again. Again, it works very well, but takes a bit of practice.

Here's my driveway, so you can see I know what I'm talking about.

Aw... hill assist. I thought that was the ebrake. The ebrake IS hill assist on the 458. That's probably why I got confused.

I'll have to try that. Thanks!
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:55 PM
  #6  
mksz51's Avatar
mksz51
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 4,070
Likes: 162
From: Coralville Iowa
Default

Real men driving a manual don't need an e-brake or hill assist to start on a hill. If you do you really need to enhance your skills with a manual.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 07:56 PM
  #7  
Sin City's Avatar
Sin City
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,671
Likes: 4,144
2020 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by mksz51
Real men driving a manual don't need an e-brake or hill assist to start on a hill. If you do you really need to enhance your skills with a manual.

Yah right.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:07 PM
  #8  
Corgidog1's Avatar
Corgidog1
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 6,442
Likes: 2,535
From: New Jersey
Default

Actually as your manual driving skills increase, the need for computer assistance decreases. I have been driving a manual for the past 30 yrs and have never needed any help with hills--just develop a feel for when the clutch grabs and giving it gas at the same time is all you need. The longer the car stays out of gear the more you go back.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:14 PM
  #9  
mpuzach's Avatar
mpuzach
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 16,684
Likes: 1,193
From: La Center WA
Default

Originally Posted by mksz51
Real men driving a manual don't need an e-brake or hill assist to start on a hill. If you do you really need to enhance your skills with a manual.
Wow, what a helpful response.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:37 PM
  #10  
ersin's Avatar
ersin
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 523
Likes: 5
Default

Hills give you an excellent opportunity to practice heel and toe.


Cheers.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 08:37 PM
  #11  
Sin City's Avatar
Sin City
Thread Starter
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6,671
Likes: 4,144
2020 C8 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by mpuzach
Wow, what a helpful response.

"You don't need a condom. You just need better love making skills".
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:05 PM
  #12  
Seapar's Avatar
Seapar
Racer
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 362
Likes: 0
Default

My advice to the OP is just practice a bit on a sunday morning on some hilly roads. I find it useful on the sometimes steep streets of downtown Seattle. Our other two manual cars do not have a "hill assist" feature and this does influence which streets I take.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:42 PM
  #13  
AORoads's Avatar
AORoads
Team Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 46,295
Likes: 2,596
From: Northern, VA
St. Jude Donor '15
"In honor of jpee"
Default

Originally Posted by Seapar
My advice to the OP is just practice a bit on a sunday morning on some hilly roads. I find it useful on the sometimes steep streets of downtown Seattle. Our other two manual cars do not have a "hill assist" feature and this does influence which streets I take.
no one thinks of Seattle as having hills. boy, do they ever!
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 09:47 PM
  #14  
mjw930's Avatar
mjw930
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,505
Likes: 13
Default

Originally Posted by ersin
Hills give you an excellent opportunity to practice heel and toe.


Cheers.
I was going to make that same comment. Then again, it's not a skill someone who hasn't tracked cars has really ever taken the time to learn. I guess it's the same reason they invented a rev matching manual.....
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:10 PM
  #15  
Higgs Boson's Avatar
Higgs Boson
Race Director
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 10,961
Likes: 2,643
From: Texas Hill Country
Default

at 16 I learned to drive manual on a 928 on a hill. it was hair raising for about 10 minutes. then I learned how to drive manual. hill start assist annoys me now. I can't imagine needing a crutch like an ebrake.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:27 PM
  #16  
rjv0331's Avatar
rjv0331
Advanced
 
Joined: Dec 2013
Posts: 82
Likes: 1
Default

I've been driving manuals for over 40 years and never needed hill assist. Having said that, I like it. It's another tool, like the mode selector.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:35 PM
  #17  
SRQStingray's Avatar
SRQStingray
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2,414
Likes: 214
From: Sarasota Florida
Default

My first experience with a manual was in a 56 Chevy pickup. It had a trailer hitch and I was at a stoplight on a hill. I rolled back and the hitch went through the radiator of the car behind me. I jumped out, yelled at the guy for being too close and drove away. I learned to deal with hills and have driven manuals since. The C7 hill assist, however, is a nice addition to a manual and it works great when I have to stop on a hill for the drawbridge near my house.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Ebrake with manual question

Old Feb 15, 2014 | 10:38 PM
  #18  
ChucksZ06's Avatar
ChucksZ06
Drifting
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,358
Likes: 59
Default

It works great and you hardly notice...you might be trying too hard.
Reply
Old Feb 15, 2014 | 11:22 PM
  #19  
pmartjr's Avatar
pmartjr
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 277
Likes: 2
From: Dayton Ohio
Default

Not one post mentioned that heel and toe technique comes in handy when the engine doesn't want to idle. When I was a young'un, my cars weren't that all great and I learned how to do this out of necessity just to keep the engine from dying when I would come to a traffic light. Been heel and toeing my entire driving life which is now 50 years and counting. I can see where a hill assist would be a welcome option though.

Last edited by pmartjr; Feb 15, 2014 at 11:23 PM. Reason: correction
Reply
Old Feb 16, 2014 | 08:25 AM
  #20  
Dave80C3's Avatar
Dave80C3
Melting Slicks
Veteran: Navy
20 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 2,216
Likes: 285
From: Ten Mile TN
Default

Originally Posted by KenHorse
I've been driving sticks since I first learned to drive (quite a while now!) and I've never had a problem by not using the e-brake.

Then again, I do believe the C7 has a feature for starting up a hill. Check the manual?
Never used a e-brake to drive a stick except on extreme hills.

Yes the manual cars have hill assist, which works seamlessly if you ask me. Caught my by surprise. It's really not need, however is really nice.

Originally Posted by rjv0331
I've been driving manuals for over 40 years and never needed hill assist. Having said that, I like it. It's another tool, like the mode selector.
but it's only 34 years for me driving manuals.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:02 PM.