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Old 02-24-2014, 08:27 PM
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I was told by a dealer that there were only 101 z51 allocations across the US last week (102 the week prior). Does anyone know how this works in relation to constaints? I know z51's are still constrained to 50% of production, but wouldn't that mean production would only be a little over 200/week? It just doesn't make sense to me that GM is presumably producing 150+ cars/day (750+/week) but only allocates 100 or so per week for z51 when they could be producing them at 50% of production....

Maybe it has something to do with how many cars are staying in the US and how many are being shipped overseas, etc.
Old 02-24-2014, 08:34 PM
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I believe the constraints come from GM's ability to get the necessary parts from their suppliers.
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Funny, my dealer told me there were only 60. Most of the dealers have no clue. I told him I only need 1.
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Originally Posted by teejake
I believe the constraints come from GM's ability to get the necessary parts from their suppliers.
Of course, but if they are able to produce z51's at 50% of production why are only 101 allocated to dealers in a week?
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Funny, my dealer told me there were only 60. Most of the dealers have no clue. I told him I only need 1.
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The difference may be in coupes vs vertes....
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From the numbers that have been thrown around, it looks like they make about 750 cars per week.

So at 50%, that should be over 350 Z51s. It so tough to get good information from anyone.
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Maybe what they mean by "constrained to 50% of production" is they made half the Z51s they normally could have made. Meaning if they made 101, they had the capacity to make 202, but purpously didn't.
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My 2 cents: Most salesmen don't have a clue about allocations, constraints, etc. They are in it to get your money and will say what they have to in order to get it. There are a few (Tommy Jr. at MacMulkin, Rick Conti - Coughlin, Mike Furman - Criswell to name SOME) that will shoot straight with you, but MANY more who will not......Just my $0.02.....

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This is a reliable source: http://www.corvetteconti.com/blog/?p=20773
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[QUOTE=markk1;1586263529]My 2 cents: Most salesmen don't have a clue about allocations, constraints, etc. They are in it to get your money and will say what they have to in order to get it. There are a few (Tommy Jr. at MacMulkin, Rick Conti, Mike Furman to name SOME) that will shoot straight with you, but MANY more who will not......Just my $


I agree with you but must add Amoni at Kerbeck, Z51 order placed on Saturday and goes to 3000 tomorrow. My local dealer had my order for 3 months and went nowhere.
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Originally Posted by markk1
My 2 cents: Most salesmen don't have a clue about allocations, constraints, etc. They are in it to get your money and will say what they have to in order to get it. There are a few (Tommy Jr. at MacMulkin, Rick Conti, Mike Furman to name SOME) that will shoot straight with you, but MANY more who will not......Just my $


I agree with you but must add Amoni at Kerbeck, Z51 order placed on Saturday and goes to 3000 tomorrow. My local dealer had my order for 3 months and went nowhere.
Just to be clear, I wasn't trying to be exclusive; just know from my experiences.......I am sure there are others, but still few and maybe far between.....
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This is what I found on another site on c7 constraints.

Anyone know what the real Z51 backlog is and assming that my dealer did not lie to me, whether I will get may Z51 when I ordered it on 1/29?

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[QUOTE=ENCT;1586263605]
Originally Posted by markk1
My 2 cents: Most salesmen don't have a clue about allocations, constraints, etc. They are in it to get your money and will say what they have to in order to get it. There are a few that will shoot straight with you, but MANY more who will not......Just my $


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Sadly, what you said is very true. The automobile industry has earned itself a well-deserved horrible reputation.

There are a "few that will shoot straight" that have earned an excellent reputation at the forum dealerships. That's where my 2015 Z06 is going to come from.
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Just returned from museum delivery and on the factory tour our guide showed us a tote board that had the target production for that day. It was 165 on the day we were there and the guide said that was normal.
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Originally Posted by sdcnews
Just returned from museum delivery and on the factory tour our guide showed us a tote board that had the target production for that day. It was 165 on the day we were there and the guide said that was normal.
Any Idea on the breakout between C7 and C7 Z51's?
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The confusion here is with the older, texted based GM system there's a column called National Availability. From what I've been able to gather that isn't really the total national availability but a subset of the total production based on that dealers zone or rating. The screen shot above gives percentages and based on that the National Availability of Z51's, coupe and vert combined is closer to 375 for that production week or 75 per day.
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Originally Posted by mjw930
The confusion here is with the older, texted based GM system there's a column called National Availability. From what I've been able to gather that isn't really the total national availability but a subset of the total production based on that dealers zone or rating. The screen shot above gives percentages and based on that the National Availability of Z51's, coupe and vert combined is closer to 375 for that production week or 75 per day.
, not on the dealers zone or rating, but the rest is correct.

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Originally Posted by markk1
My 2 cents: Most salesmen don't have a clue about allocations, constraints, etc. They are in it to get your money and will say what they have to in order to get it. There are a few (Tommy Jr. at MacMulkin, Rick Conti - Coughlin, Mike Furman - Criswell to name SOME) that will shoot straight with you, but MANY more who will not......Just my $0.02.....
I couldn't agree more. I personally wouldn't waste time with any of them except the well known forum dealers, like the ones you've mentioned. Who needs the aggravation and jack around they are famous for, when you can just use a forum dealer. Many of us have bought vettes from those clowns,with not a clue or integrity, in the past. Thanks to the internet and corvette forum, those days are in the rear view mirror.
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Originally Posted by petemoss
This is what I found on another site on c7 constraints.

Anyone know what the real Z51 backlog is and assming that my dealer did not lie to me, whether I will get may Z51 when I ordered it on 1/29?

Thanks
There really isn't a "backlog". GM won't accept an order until the dealer has an allocation that includes all items on the order (Z51, for example). So, the real question is how many allocations does your dealer get each week and how many are in line in front of you? With Z51 at 50%, your dealer has to get 2 allocations per week to have a really good chance of getting 1 Z51 allocation per week. If you have any other items on constraint, then the odds go down considerably.

If your dealer is one of the forum dealers, they almost certainly did NOT lie to you. If your dealer is a low volume (Corvette volume) dealer, they almost certainly DID LIE to you.
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Originally Posted by GM'er
, not on the dealers zone or rating, but the rest is correct.
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