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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:29 AM
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It has been suggested that future Corvettes will have the Auto Stop feature that shuts off the engine whenever the car is stopped at a stop light or any other situation where you are not moving with the engine running.
While my Stingray was in the shop this week the dealer loaned me a 2014 Malibu to drive and it had Auto Stop. It worked so smoothly that I didn't know the car had this feature for three days. It is like the Stingray going from eight cylinders to four cylinders. You don't even notice. When you take your foot off of the brake the engine starts again and you accelerate.
Many on this Forum objected to the idea of adding Auto Stop to the Corvette. I know I didn't like the idea but after a first hand experience I would say it is much better than I expected.

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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:34 AM
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While my Stingray was in the shop this week the dealer loaned me a 2014 Malibu to drive and it had Auto Stop. It worked so smoothly that I didn't know the car had this feature for three days.
I have had it in rental cars, and I think it sucks - you have to take your foot off the brake, allow 2-3 seconds for the car to start and then it goes.
I also can't imagine a few hundred start-stop cycles per day, which is what happens in urban driving in traffic, can be good for the engine or starter?
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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The usefulness of that device would depend where you live, It would have been useful where I lived in NY but where I now live stoplights are few and far in-between unless I go into town

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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:46 AM
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I have had it in rental cars, and I think it sucks - you have to take your foot off the brake, allow 2-3 seconds for the car to start and then it goes.
I also can't imagine a few hundred start-stop cycles per day, which is what happens in urban driving in traffic, can be good for the engine or starter?
If it takes 2-3 seconds to restart something is wrong. My wife's Mercedes has it and it restarts INSTANTLY. Rented a BMW - same instant restart. I think in the Vette it would be annoying secondary to the sound of the exhaust whenever it is started. If it did come out it would only be on automatics - yet another reason to own a manual.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:47 AM
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I HATE start/stop. It just makes the car sound stupid (off) at a light. My 911 4S had the feature, and I turned it off and never used it. If I wanted a silent car, I'd buy a Tesla.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:52 AM
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I understand the gas mileage goals. And if I can keep more HP in my Corvette and use this to get the Gooberment MPG rating up it's OK. No different then the 1-4 skip. Ways around it.

There's no delay to restart. I too had a malibu and it was seamless. My issue was it shuts down the ac/heater and for a few seconds not a big deal but during the hot summer or cold winter...... in heavy stop and go not sure that works too well.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 08:54 AM
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It is an interesting concept. I have never operated a car that had this feature, I'm not opposed to it. There should be a provision to turn it on or off though. If our government would put into law that traffic lights could be treated like a stop sign, we wouldn't need stop start. (How often have you sat at a red light, not another car in sight. Then just as your light turns green another car approaches the intersection and his light turns red and he gets to look at the red light too). Old fogey thinking - think about all those no turn on red signs. I rest my case.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 09:32 AM
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I'd be okay with it if it only operated in ECO mode.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
I have had it in rental cars, and I think it sucks - you have to take your foot off the brake, allow 2-3 seconds for the car to start and then it goes.
I also can't imagine a few hundred start-stop cycles per day, which is what happens in urban driving in traffic, can be good for the engine or starter?
I've owned a Camry Hybrid for years with this feature and it has basically zero lag. Not to mention that the electric motor gives additional instant start torque.

They do use heavy duty starters but I don't think it puts any big strain on the engine. Besides, the strain put on Corvette engines by virtue of it's owner's heavy right foot would be far greater.
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I don't mind the feature at all, in fact if I'm at a stoplight that I know is going to take a little while, I shut off my engine. I just hate the thought of idling and wasting gas while going nowhere. So it would be a lot easier if the computer would take care of the shutting off and restarting for me
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I do not want that feature. But, this from a guy that will never use the ECO setting.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 03:17 PM
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whats the difference of this than just turning the ignition off at every stop light and turning it on when its green? Other than it doing it automatically?
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 03:20 PM
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Why worry about it at all until it happens? Really a non issue with C7's at this point.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LIStingray
I have had it in rental cars, and I think it sucks - you have to take your foot off the brake, allow 2-3 seconds for the car to start and then it goes.
I also can't imagine a few hundred start-stop cycles per day, which is what happens in urban driving in traffic, can be good for the engine or starter?
I couldn't agree more! This is a sports car.
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Old Mar 26, 2014 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman
I don't mind the feature at all, in fact if I'm at a stoplight that I know is going to take a little while, I shut off my engine. I just hate the thought of idling and wasting gas while going nowhere. So it would be a lot easier if the computer would take care of the shutting off and restarting for me
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I've been at some pretty long stop lights (over a minute). In Texas summer sitting at a long stop light without the A/C would be totally unacceptable, especially if it was before the car has even had a chance to cool down yet.
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This is a cool idea. Does anyone have any numbers on how much fuel it actually saves?

There are a few lights around where I live that I know if I get caught in it will be while. So I turn off the car.
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Originally Posted by ~Stingray
This is a cool idea. Does anyone have any numbers on how much fuel it actually saves?
Well, here is one example of a recent GM version...FWIW.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/...as-2-batteries

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BMW touts it saves 4% in gas....I hope we get it...it can be turned off, so if you're bitching about it, its easy to defeat it, per a setting in the display.
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Originally Posted by Glen e
BMW touts it saves 4% in gas....I hope we get it...it can be turned off, so if you're bitching about it, its easy to defeat it, per a setting in the display.
The article I posted says the Malibu's version has now helped give the base Malibu better gas mileage than the Malibu Eco Hybrid. That should likely make any Corvette buyer happy vs a Corvette Hybrid!
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