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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:04 PM
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I ordered my '14 C7 A6 today. I'm a "cruiser" not a racer. Sure the romance of the next best thing helps sell the next production year but after renting a C7 for a day....an A6 with all it's current refinements is good enough for me!!!
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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cg02175
After having issues with pretty much every GM automatic transmission (i.e. 700R4, 4L60E, etc) I have ever owned, I ordered my new C7 with a manual transmission. There are exceptions, but for the most part, my experience my has that GM auto trannys don't hold up well over time.
Funny, I wanted an automatic for the exact same reason, terrible experience with GM clutches (I've never had clutch issues with Japanese brands, interestingly). Will never buy another GM manual tranny.
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Old May 14, 2014 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rgeezer
Funny, I wanted an automatic for the exact same reason, terrible experience with GM clutches (I've never had clutch issues with Japanese brands, interestingly). Will never buy another GM manual tranny.
I hope we both don't have any issues, but a clutch is alot cheaper than a transmission.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by John Ulrich
I ordered my '14 C7 A6 today. I'm a "cruiser" not a racer. Sure the romance of the next best thing helps sell the next production year but after renting a C7 for a day....an A6 with all it's current refinements is good enough for me!!!
You won't be disappointed.

Sure, when everyone is raving next year about how much better the A8 is it might make me think, but unless I am seeing huge differences in 1/4 mile times, I won't care.

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Old May 15, 2014 | 06:35 AM
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I wonder when A8 badges will start showing up.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 07:17 AM
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Why is it that every thread regarding the new A8 transmission for the 2015 C7 has the ongoing theme that makes the assumption that GMs A8 is inferior to the DCT. None of this has yet to be demonstrated. Have the DCT fist pounders considered the possibility that the C7s A8 may actually be superior to the almighty Porsche DCT?
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Old May 15, 2014 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Why is it that every thread regarding the new A8 transmission for the 2015 C7 has the ongoing theme that makes the assumption that GMs A8 is inferior to the DCT. None of this has yet to be demonstrated. Have the DCT fist pounders considered the possibility that the C7s A8 may actually be superior to the almighty Porsche DCT?
Let's hope so.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Why is it that every thread regarding the new A8 transmission for the 2015 C7 has the ongoing theme that makes the assumption that GMs A8 is inferior to the DCT. None of this has yet to be demonstrated. Have the DCT fist pounders considered the possibility that the C7s A8 may actually be superior to the almighty Porsche DCT?
We'll find out. ....but we don't see BMW/Porsche needing to compare the DCT/PDK to an Automatic transmission for the purpose of proving to every last person that it is better or trying to improve the DCT to compete better with an Automatic. The reason is because it is already the benchmark so they don't have to.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 11:38 AM
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I am not one who has the default mentality that dictates anything Porsche has to better because it costs double or triple. Ridiculous
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Old May 15, 2014 | 04:53 PM
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Sorry if this has already been answered, but aside from jumping on the car, is there a way to make "Performance Shift Active" stay on in "S" mode all the time. Thank you.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
I am not one who has the default mentality that dictates anything Porsche has to better because it costs double or triple. Ridiculous
The Porsche (PDK) or BMW (DCT) isn't better simply because it is a more expensive option than the C7's Automatic Transmission.

I can speak from personal experience. Regardless of what each transmission cost, there is NO COMPARISON between the A6 in my C7 and the DCT in my previous car (2009 Z4 35i). The DCT is far superior. This was NO surprise to me. Life is full of compromises and there is no such thing as a perfect car.

It remains to be seen how much of the HUGE gap between the Automatic and the DCT GM filled with the A8, which still uses different technology than that in the DCT/PDK.

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Originally Posted by RedC7AZ
The Porsche (PDK) or BMW (DCT) isn't better simply because it is a more expensive option than the C7's Automatic Transmission.

I can speak from personal experience. Regardless of what each transmission cost, there is NO COMPARISON between the A6 in my C7 and the DCT in my previous car (2009 Z4 35i). The DCT is far superior. This was NO surprise to me. Life is full of compromises and there is no such thing as a perfect car.

It remains to be seen how much of the HUGE gap between the Automatic and the DCT GM filled with the A8, which still uses different technology than that in the DCT/PDK.
Why is it assumed that the Porsche transmission would be better than anything GM has developed? I don't see any sense to that being a fore gone conclusion. The A8 could be superior to the almighty "PDK", none of us would know at this point.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Why is it that every thread regarding the new A8 transmission for the 2015 C7 has the ongoing theme that makes the assumption that GMs A8 is inferior to the DCT. None of this has yet to be demonstrated. Have the DCT fist pounders considered the possibility that the C7s A8 may actually be superior to the almighty Porsche DCT?
All GM touts is 'shifts faster than a PDK,' Not that its stronger, lighter, less parasitic loss than a DCT. Just it shifts faster then one specific trans. Seems like GM is the one that considers the PDK 'almighty.'

But what does that mean exactly?

It completes the shift faster when you press the paddle or once it receives the command from the controller it shifts faster? Big difference there.

No one is pounding fists, the A8 just isnt a huge leap in technology from the present A6 - or any other modern 8 speed auto. Its going to end up in way more pickup trucks than in Corvettes. I'm not a hater, I welcome any new technology, and of course GMs job is to sell new cars so they will say whatever to sell them and create a buzz. Until they are out there no one will know how good the A8 will be in the C7.
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Old May 15, 2014 | 09:52 PM
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Apparently the new A8 is 6 pounds lighter than the A6 it replaces. The article I read when the Z06 was introduced was quite impressive. I really hope it lives up the the hype and revolutionizes how people think of a torque-converter based auto. If it doesn't... all the DCT fanboys will be on here screaming "WE TOLD YOU SO!".
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Old May 15, 2014 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by drmustang
Why is it assumed that the Porsche transmission would be better than anything GM has developed? I don't see any sense to that being a fore gone conclusion. The A8 could be superior to the almighty "PDK", none of us would know at this point.
I said it remains to be seen if the A8 will close the gap on the DCT. No assumptions.
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Originally Posted by RedC7AZ
I said it remains to be seen if the A8 will close the gap on the DCT. No assumptions.
You have obviously made the assumption that the DCT is superior if you are questioning the A8s ability to "close the gap".
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Old May 16, 2014 | 07:25 PM
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I'll say this. The Tranny in this C7 seems to shift much better then the C6. I like the feel between gear changes.
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