Our garage project
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2000
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From: Upland CA
Congratulations, the garage looks great. Going with 18' and 10' garage doors will be a huge benefit in the long run. Your 10' ceiling height might be a limiting factor on which cars you can stack. Have the garage door tracks get as close to the ceiling as possible. My ceiling is 9'-10" finished and I can easily put two Corvettes over and under, both are 48" tall. However, to put the Camaro under and one of the Corvettes on top, I have to back the Corvette on to the ramp and have the garage door come over the hood when the door is opened. An 11' ceiling would fit all cars stacked and give you a lot more standing room under the car when working underneath. A 12' ceiling will let most stand under a raised car.
I was originally going to use the single side for the lift but got talked out that idea because it would eliminate a work area when all the cars are in the garage. I put the lift in the double side and use the single for all my work projects. Your garage is very well thought out, my only question is the distance from the garage to the pool retaining wall. I guess I am just used to being able to drive straight into the garage.
I was originally going to use the single side for the lift but got talked out that idea because it would eliminate a work area when all the cars are in the garage. I put the lift in the double side and use the single for all my work projects. Your garage is very well thought out, my only question is the distance from the garage to the pool retaining wall. I guess I am just used to being able to drive straight into the garage.
On the ceiling height, my city code placed a 14 foot limit on the building height with the 5’ property line setback I wanted. I was able to get a 10% variance to 15'-5" but that was it. To keep a reasonable roof pitch and truss design, 15'-5" limited me to a 10 foot wall height. With the four inch stem wall, the actual floor to finished ceiling height is 10'-4". I wanted 12 feet, but I did not want a flat roof or the complexity of a vaulted ceiling. The jack shaft operators and high-lift kit on the doors allow the door tracks to only be 8" below the ceiling. In addition when fully open the doors only extent about 7 feet into the garage, so with a 30 foot depth I still have about 23 feet of full ceiling height. I will put a two post lift in the single bay for working. At some future date when I have too many cars for ground storage I may add a 4-post lift or two on the wide side for storage.
On the closeness of the retaining wall, again I would have preferred another 6-10 feet for ease of turn-in, but I wanted the 30 foot depth inside the garage and I shaved the pool and deck dimensions as close as I could. As it turns out I can easily back the C7 into the small bay in one sweep. Getting the boat into the other side was a challenge so I got a set of four wheel dollies to facilitate getting it into position.
All-in-all the project turned out great, now I just need to get the equipment installed on the inside.
Melting Slicks
Joined: Jul 2014
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From: Bonita Springs Florida
I'd investigate "slit" windows as a natural light option. They are used in Florida in bath areas, set high on the wall so unless someone has a latter they can't peek in yet you get natural light and if you add blinds you can darken the area if you choose.
Racer
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: Hartland WI
For those of you with the lifts, what brands would you suggest and do they have to be anchored to the cement floor or are they freestanding? 220 or 110? Cost? Any distributors/vendors in the WI area you could recommend? Etc...
Thanks.
Thanks.
Burning Brakes
Joined: Apr 2015
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From: Buffalo Minnesota
Thanks for the comments. As with many things in life I had to make some compromises to do as much as I could with the constraints I had. This pool and garage were additions that had to fit into a developed lot with an existing house and significant backyard hardscape I needed to keep.
On the ceiling height, my city code placed a 14 foot limit on the building height with the 5’ property line setback I wanted. I was able to get a 10% variance to 15'-5" but that was it. To keep a reasonable roof pitch and truss design, 15'-5" limited me to a 10 foot wall height. With the four inch stem wall, the actual floor to finished ceiling height is 10'-4". I wanted 12 feet, but I did not want a flat roof or the complexity of a vaulted ceiling. The jack shaft operators and high-lift kit on the doors allow the door tracks to only be 8" below the ceiling. In addition when fully open the doors only extent about 7 feet into the garage, so with a 30 foot depth I still have about 23 feet of full ceiling height. I will put a two post lift in the single bay for working. At some future date when I have too many cars for ground storage I may add a 4-post lift or two on the wide side for storage.
On the closeness of the retaining wall, again I would have preferred another 6-10 feet for ease of turn-in, but I wanted the 30 foot depth inside the garage and I shaved the pool and deck dimensions as close as I could. As it turns out I can easily back the C7 into the small bay in one sweep. Getting the boat into the other side was a challenge so I got a set of four wheel dollies to facilitate getting it into position.
All-in-all the project turned out great, now I just need to get the equipment installed on the inside.
On the ceiling height, my city code placed a 14 foot limit on the building height with the 5’ property line setback I wanted. I was able to get a 10% variance to 15'-5" but that was it. To keep a reasonable roof pitch and truss design, 15'-5" limited me to a 10 foot wall height. With the four inch stem wall, the actual floor to finished ceiling height is 10'-4". I wanted 12 feet, but I did not want a flat roof or the complexity of a vaulted ceiling. The jack shaft operators and high-lift kit on the doors allow the door tracks to only be 8" below the ceiling. In addition when fully open the doors only extent about 7 feet into the garage, so with a 30 foot depth I still have about 23 feet of full ceiling height. I will put a two post lift in the single bay for working. At some future date when I have too many cars for ground storage I may add a 4-post lift or two on the wide side for storage.
On the closeness of the retaining wall, again I would have preferred another 6-10 feet for ease of turn-in, but I wanted the 30 foot depth inside the garage and I shaved the pool and deck dimensions as close as I could. As it turns out I can easily back the C7 into the small bay in one sweep. Getting the boat into the other side was a challenge so I got a set of four wheel dollies to facilitate getting it into position.
All-in-all the project turned out great, now I just need to get the equipment installed on the inside.
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Melting Slicks
Joined: Feb 2000
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From: Upland CA
Love your garage! I have a question regarding the lift set up though. I'm thinking of doing one stall with a similar lift in it. I've got to do a lot of measuring etc but I'm pretty sure my ceiling is tall enough. I'm looking at the picture where you have the C5 on top and a C3 on the bottom. It's hard for me to see how you get the overhead garage door open over the back of the C5. Obviously it must work or you...but how much clearance is there between the garage door and the car on top when the door is open??? Thanks.
Both Kruegmeister and I have jackshaft springs and a high-lift rail kit that moves the door rails up close to the ceiling. It appears Kruegmeister may only have manual operation of the door which allows the rails to be very close to the ceiling. I have jackshaft power operators which move the jackshaft and rails down a couple of inches. In my case the door is about 8 1/2" below the ceiling when open.
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From the exterior photo it looks like it would be difficult to enter. What is the distance between the garage door and that retaining wall by the pool?
Great looking garage though. I am very envious and happy for you. Congratulations!
Great looking garage though. I am very envious and happy for you. Congratulations!
Last edited by jdk541; Jul 3, 2019 at 06:09 PM.
