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I'm considering picking a skip shift eliminator up from one of our forum vendors, but would like to have an understanding of what the mod actually does to the car.
I understand the why of using it, and the results of using it, but what it's doing to the car to get those results is something I'd like a better understanding of before just slapping a mod on.
Under certain conditions, the CAGS forces a 1st to 4th gear shift, mostly during warm up conditions. The CAGS eliminator lets you, the driver choose what gear you want, when you want it.
I have an A6 enroute but I think I’m right. If I’m wrong, a MT guy will certainly correct me. Don
Under certain conditions the computer sends a signal to the transmission to force the 1-4 shift. You can simply unplug the cable and stop that from happening .. BUT the computer will sense that the cable is unplugged and throw a trouble code. The CAGS defeat sits in place of the cable and presents a known resistance value to the computer, which tricks it into thinking that the cable is connected. Simple. The CAGS defeat is simply a resistor of the right value and with the correct cable connectors on it.
If I were getting a manual trans C7, a CAGS eliminator would be in hand for the delivery of the car, it is the single biggest change I would make. Inexpensive and effective! Don
If I were getting a manual trans C7, a CAGS eliminator would be in hand for the delivery of the car, it is the single biggest change I would make. Inexpensive and effective! Don
For almost the entire drive back from KY to CA I never encountered the 1-4 skip shift message, but now that I'm back home, the bits of 'round town' driving I do means it pops up often enough to be a headache. Doesn't hurt that I've got a 4 post lift in the garage so installation should be easy.
A solenoid on the transmission locks out 2nd and 3rd.
You are disconnecting the solenoid, and connecting a resistor that is equal to the electrical resistance of the solenoid.
A solenoid on the transmission locks out 2nd and 3rd.
You are disconnecting the solenoid, and connecting a resistor that is equal to the electrical resistance of the solenoid.
3rd isn't locked out. On the rare occasions that skip shift kicks in, I go to 3rd.
Just drive the car like you mean it and the friggin skip shift will never bother you! I am on my 6th corvette, all with manual shift.....you can count on one hand how many times I was forced into 4th! No mods, just drive the car like you mean it.
3rd isn't locked out. On the rare occasions that skip shift kicks in, I go to 3rd.
Correct. Hardly ever intervenes but when it does I go to 3rd usually but it is amazing how well the car pulls even in 4th gear. This engine is a torque monster!
Just drive the car like you mean it and the friggin skip shift will never bother you! I am on my 6th corvette, all with manual shift.....you can count on one hand how many times I was forced into 4th! No mods, just drive the car like you mean it.
I agree, but you can't always drive the way you want to in traffic, and sometimes you have to pay attention to the road rather than the rpms .. For me the slight cost of the defeat is worth it because it simply lets you shift when you want, how you want, the way a manual tranny should work. I resent the built-in solenoid and nanny, and the CAGS defeat lets me .. defeat it.
I agree, but you can't always drive the way you want to in traffic, and sometimes you have to pay attention to the road rather than the rpms .. For me the slight cost of the defeat is worth it because it simply lets you shift when you want, how you want, the way a manual tranny should work. I resent the built-in solenoid and nanny, and the CAGS defeat lets me .. defeat it.
The first few miles and last few miles of the drive when I take the car into work invariably result in the skip shift coming up, and any venture away from the highways can as well. I'd much rather get on it, but seeing as I'm in a C7 because what of a careless driver did to my C5, I play it overly cautious around stoplight traffic in my area.
Just drive the car like you mean it and the friggin skip shift will never bother you! I am on my 6th corvette, all with manual shift.....you can count on one hand how many times I was forced into 4th! No mods, just drive the car like you mean it.
4000 miles on the Stingray and have yet to hit it. Probably hit it 3 times in 7 years of owning my C6.
What it does is annoy people by constantly reminding them that car engineers put in gimmicks to trick the EPA tests which have no value in the real world.
3rd isn't locked out. On the rare occasions that skip shift kicks in, I go to 3rd.
It may not actually lock out 3rd, but the intent is to force a 1 to 4 shift.
The few times I have been caught between gears, I just paused for a second, then went back to 2nd.
The conditions for CAGS to activate have been reduced, so it is more unusual to get caught between gears than it used to be.
I'm considering picking a skip shift eliminator up from one of our forum vendors, but would like to have an understanding of what the mod actually does to the car.
I understand the why of using it, and the results of using it, but what it's doing to the car to get those results is something I'd like a better understanding of before just slapping a mod on.
Thanks!
You're making the car think it engaged the lockout solenoid that forces a 1st to 4th shift. They just put resistor in the circuit. No harm to the car. See folks saying it hasn't happened or happened so infrequently why bother. The problem is it seldom happens and therefore you're surprised when t does! Here is what happened to me: I live in a fairly rural area but one day was in town and there was some bumper to bumper traffic. I was creeping along and shifted to 2nd ( or tried to) at about 15 mph. Looked down and tried 3rd - didn't work either. Then realized I was blocked and by this time was moving very slow when I shifted to 4th!
No big deal except in today's world with folks using cell phones or worse responding to text messages or at least looking at them. The person stopped behind me could have doing one or the other! They would have expected that Corvette in front of them to move quickly as I did in 1st gear. They would not have expected me to almost stop unexpectedly. If they had looked down at their phone perhaps what stopped them would be my rear!
Cheap insurance and easy install in my opinion!
You're making the car think it engaged the lockout soiliniod that forces a 1st to 4th shift. They just put resistor in the circuit. No harm to the car. See folks saying it hasn't happened or happened so infrequently why bother. The problem is it seldom happens and therefore you're surprised when t does! Here is what happened to me: I live in a fairly rural area but one day was in town and there was some bumper to bumper traffic. I was creeping along and shifted to 2nd ( or tried to) at about 15 mph. Looked down and tried 3rd - didn't work either. Then realized I was blocked and by this time was moving very slow when I shifted to 4th!
No big deal except in today's world with folks using cell phones or worse responding to text messages or at least looking at them. The person stopped behind me could have doing one or the other! They would have expected that Corvette in front of them to move quickly as I did in 1st gear. They would not have expected me to almost stop unexpectedly. If they had looked down at their phone perhaps what stopped them would be my rear!
Cheap insurance and easy install in my opinion!
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I've been confused about this since I bought my C7 M7 in October. I get the message to shift from 1st to 4th from time to time, but it never forces me to shift to 4th. Are these two different things? I've never been locked out of 2nd.