First Oil Change??
06-26-2014, 09:16 AM
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The owner manual resolves the conflict.
If you do this, GM will stand behind your engine for 100,000 miles.
But some people would rather stick to old rules and assumptions that may or may not have been true 50 years ago and certainly aren't true now. Then they tell other people they should do the same for "insurance." This is like chaining your house to the ground as "insurance" against gravity failure. Please don't waste your money and time on needless oil changes.
If you do this, GM will stand behind your engine for 100,000 miles.
But some people would rather stick to old rules and assumptions that may or may not have been true 50 years ago and certainly aren't true now. Then they tell other people they should do the same for "insurance." This is like chaining your house to the ground as "insurance" against gravity failure. Please don't waste your money and time on needless oil changes.
Change the oil when the car tells you. This ain't your father's Oldsmobile.
06-26-2014, 11:43 AM
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Drifting
Metal shavings in the filter? As in visible silver slivers? Sounds serious. Yes, I would like a picture of this.
06-26-2014, 11:52 AM
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The owner manual resolves the conflict.
If you do this, GM will stand behind your engine for 100,000 miles.
But some people would rather stick to old rules and assumptions that may or may not have been true 50 years ago and certainly aren't true now. Then they tell other people they should do the same for "insurance." This is like chaining your house to the ground as "insurance" against gravity failure. Please don't waste your money and time on needless oil changes.
If you do this, GM will stand behind your engine for 100,000 miles.
But some people would rather stick to old rules and assumptions that may or may not have been true 50 years ago and certainly aren't true now. Then they tell other people they should do the same for "insurance." This is like chaining your house to the ground as "insurance" against gravity failure. Please don't waste your money and time on needless oil changes.
Lots of people trying to over analyze everything. You can do a bunch of this stuff if it makes you feel good. Much of it makes no difference to the performance or durability of the car.
06-26-2014, 01:46 PM
#44
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Oil changes on the base C7 are more challenging than the C6.
The drain plug is in line with some sort of multi-layer triangular device attached to the bottom of the block next to the filter. Is it for protection? It prevents use of a torque wrench directly on the drain plug. I used a universal jointed extension to change the angle to the head of the plug.
The oil filler cap is nearly vertical and there is a recessed fill hole reducer making use of a funnel with a small neck at least 2" in length to get the oil into the rocker cover.
What has anyone else done to cope with these challenges? Dealer oil changes are not an option for me.
The drain plug is in line with some sort of multi-layer triangular device attached to the bottom of the block next to the filter. Is it for protection? It prevents use of a torque wrench directly on the drain plug. I used a universal jointed extension to change the angle to the head of the plug.
The oil filler cap is nearly vertical and there is a recessed fill hole reducer making use of a funnel with a small neck at least 2" in length to get the oil into the rocker cover.
What has anyone else done to cope with these challenges? Dealer oil changes are not an option for me.
06-26-2014, 01:50 PM
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Oil changes on the base C7 are more challenging than the C6.
The drain plug is in line with some sort of multi-layer triangular device attached to the bottom of the block next to the filter. Is it for protection? It prevents use of a torque wrench directly on the drain plug. I used a universal jointed extension to change the angle to the head of the plug.
The oil filler cap is nearly vertical and there is a recessed fill hole reducer making use of a funnel with a small neck at least 2" in length to get the oil into the rocker cover.
What has anyone else done to cope with these challenges? Dealer oil changes are not an option for me.
The drain plug is in line with some sort of multi-layer triangular device attached to the bottom of the block next to the filter. Is it for protection? It prevents use of a torque wrench directly on the drain plug. I used a universal jointed extension to change the angle to the head of the plug.
The oil filler cap is nearly vertical and there is a recessed fill hole reducer making use of a funnel with a small neck at least 2" in length to get the oil into the rocker cover.
What has anyone else done to cope with these challenges? Dealer oil changes are not an option for me.
06-26-2014, 03:16 PM
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06-26-2014, 08:19 PM
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06-26-2014, 08:29 PM
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Those are a little smaller than what I was expecting from the word "shavings." This was from a C7 filter with 1,000 miles on it, right? If this justifies or requires changing the oil at 1,000 miles, why has GM not put it in the C7 owner manual? What did the filter look like, or better yet what did oil analysis show, at the next oil change compared to filters from C7s whose oil wasn't changed until the manual said to?
06-26-2014, 08:43 PM
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I believe they are so small they are insignificant .I did the same thing with A 55 chevy that had 60,000 miles on the odometer and the metal shavings were much larger.
I'm not an engineer but those particles can hardly be seen.
I'm not an engineer but those particles can hardly be seen.
06-26-2014, 09:19 PM
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06-26-2014, 10:08 PM
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I had a 2013 camaro with LFX engine and it had a wix filter( no metal housing built on filter). I saw those same looking particles up to 4000 miles or so.
06-26-2014, 10:21 PM
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Those are a little smaller than what I was expecting from the word "shavings." This was from a C7 filter with 1,000 miles on it, right? If this justifies or requires changing the oil at 1,000 miles, why has GM not put it in the C7 owner manual? What did the filter look like, or better yet what did oil analysis show, at the next oil change compared to filters from C7s whose oil wasn't changed until the manual said to?
yes i change it around 1000 miles. The filter is doing its job i did not do oil analysis its not needed. We all know the engine is breaking in first 500 miles to me its just common sense to dump that and start fresh after breakin.
The filter looks like pics.. brown,oily with small shiny flakes throughout. I plan on keeping this car for many years spending 30 minutes and $60.00 one extra time is small price to pay.
Offcourse, you could just not change it wait till 7500 like manual or olm system your car.
06-26-2014, 11:07 PM
#59
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yes i change it around 1000 miles. The filter is doing its job i did not do oil analysis its not needed. We all know the engine is breaking in first 500 miles to me its just common sense to dump that and start fresh after breakin.
The filter looks like pics.. brown,oily with small shiny flakes throughout. I plan on keeping this car for many years spending 30 minutes and $60.00 one extra time is small price to pay.
Offcourse, you could just not change it wait till 7500 like manual or olm system your car.
The filter looks like pics.. brown,oily with small shiny flakes throughout. I plan on keeping this car for many years spending 30 minutes and $60.00 one extra time is small price to pay.
Offcourse, you could just not change it wait till 7500 like manual or olm system your car.
