Not sure if this is the correct spot to post this but seems to fit the "General Discussion" format.

I had read that GM deleted the 2014 C7 from military discounts. Now I see that on their website it appears to be back in play:

https://www.gmmilitarydiscount.com/i...le-eligibility

From what I can gather by running numbers on the 2014 C7, the military discount is the same as the Supplier discount.

Am I correct in assuming the Mil discount is in effect with participating dealers?

I have dealer within 100 miles of me that will give me supplier (as a ret military member) but has a $699 doc fee added to all car sales. If I can't whittle most of that doc off on the car price, I'd been thinking of trying something else.

Thinking if I can buy somewhere else (out of state or where ever) without a doc fee and get the Mil and USAA discounts, I'd opt for the museum pick up (as it would in effect only cost me about $189 more than my local dealer would be charging me for picking the car up from him (with the outrageous Doc fee).

What do you guys think? Beats driving out of state to pick it up or pay freight to have it drop shipped to a local dealer.

 

Check with Macmulkin. Their Doc fee is ZERO

 

$699 That's theft, no a doc fee!

 

I'm paying a $99 doc fee on my car. I thought I read something about limits on doc fees when buying at supplier price also.

 

If you can find a link to that information I would really appreciate it. I always thought $40-$100 was acceptable.

Some dealers are pretty greedy and build up a huge Document fee into the contact after the deal has been struck hoping the customer doesn't see it or is unwilling to go back and start the deal all over again.

By law they have to charge everyone the same amount (doc fee) since that would be discrimination to line it off for one person and not another. They are the first to tell you it's the law and it cannot be waived.

You can however deal that Doc fee (dollar amount) off the price of the car which does make it all legal because the Doc fee in the contract adds it back in at the end.

I learned a long time ago to question every thing before you start to negotiate. When I asked about the dealer Doc fee, this is the response I received:

The “Fees'” at XXXXXX Chevrolet are $699 on EVERY deal, new or used, and on everything from a Chevy Spark to a Cadillac XTS and Corvette. That is pretty much the norm everywhere today. Some places are actually higher ($799/$899). Others might be a little lower but those are the places that are charging a HUGE “bump” on the Stingray.

In essence they take my USAA discount and put it in their pocket just because they can.

Knowing this going in gives me the opportunity to whittle the a bigger discount on the car before the contract is printed for signature.

 

So called "doc fees" are an "add on" and differ dealer to dealer. I have seen them vary from 0 (as MacMulkin mentioned above) to the $699 you mentioned (highest I've heard). If you live in the northeastern US, I would go directly to MacMulkin (NH) and not look back. I bought my C7 from them and the deal was seamless. Doc fees, as well as other markups, are luxuries you pay for buying from a local dealer. There are several dealers who are sponsors on this forum who will value your business and treat you fairly. Btw, you mentioned USAA discount...is the C7 now eligible??

 

NO they are not--straight from USAA site:

"GM discounts not available on 2014 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray and Chevrolet Spark EV."

 

Everyone keeps pointing him to MacMulkin to save on the doc fee but are they accepting supplier on his vehicle? Whats the use of saving $699 on a doc fee if they wont give you the same $6000 avg. discount on your vehicle?

 

Les Stanford will honor the programs and has a $200 doc fee. All in all I came out $6200 better off ordering from them than anywhere else regardless of doc fees.

 

I always tell the dealer I want to hear his final "out the door" numbers and make sure the dealer understands that I don't care if the DOC fee is zero or a thousand dollars, because in the end I am the comparing "final price" difference between dealers I shop...Once I make that clear I find there are generally no hurt feelings if I decide to go elsewhere...

 

I think dealers honor the $750 if you have insurance through USAA. I'll call and check for sure. GM just had a Military Appreciation month in June and gave the Mil Discounts and USAA $750 on the C7

GM Announces Military Discount!

Between now and June 30th, GM will honor military discount on all its brands, for current and separated military, as part of Military Appreciation Month. Also USAA $750 can be added to the discount. Only excluded Chevy vehicles are the Z-28 and the Spark EV, as per the following, "All 2015 and 2014 Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and, for the months of May and June, Cadillac cars, SUVs, crossovers and light-duty trucks are eligible for the GM Military Discount Program except:Chevrolet Z/28 and Spark EV."

Now there is this:

http://www.gm.com/vehicles/current_o...itary_Discount

GM (and other car manufacturers) offers are limited time purchase price discounts. Offers available from manufacturers through participating dealers. GM discounts not available on Cadillac vehicles, Chevrolet Volt, and Chevrolet Camaro ZL1. GM (and other car manufacturers) only offer discounts to persons eligible for membership in USAA Property and Casualty Insurance Group. P&C membership is generally available to current and former members of the U.S. Military and their former dependents. There is no obligation to purchase or continue USAA products or services to obtain the offers. GM requires presentation of a USAA insurance card or a Confirmation Letter provided by USAA. For a Confirmation Letter, members can call USAA at 1-800-531-8285.

Problem is, rules change constantly. Where at one time something isn't authorized and then it is. Mil Discounts just became available again where last month they were not.

Best I contact USAA and talk to them directly and see how things work out. If I have to insure the car through them to save $750, that's fine. The last quote I got from them was $750 for a year full coverage w/ $500 deductibles on a 2015 C7 with 5,000 mi driving.

 

Try the farm bureau discount.

2014 GM American Farm Bureau Offer
Cash available to customers who are a member of one of the select Farm Bureaus listed below: ALABAMA FARMERS FEDERATION ALASKA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION ARKANSAS FARM BUREAU, INC. CALIFORNIA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION COLORADO FARM BUREAU CONNECTICUT FARM BUREAU ASSOCIATION DELAWARE FARM BUREAU FLORIDA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION HAWAII FARM & LIVESTOCK BUREAU IDAHO FARM BUREAU FEDERATION INDIANA FARM BUREAU INC. KENTUCKY FARM BUREAU LOUISIANA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION MAINE FARM BUREAU ASSOCIATION MARYLAND FARM BUREAU MASSACHUSETTS FARM BUREAU FEDERATION MINNESOTA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION MONTANA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION NEBRASKA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION NEVADA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION NEW HAMPSHIRE FARM BUREAU NEW JERSEY FARM BUREAU NEW MEXICO FARM AND LIVESTOCK BUREAU NEW YORK FARM BUREAU NORTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION NORTH DAKOTA FARM BUREAU OHIO FARM BUREAU FEDERATION OKLAHOMA FARM BUREAU OREGON FARM BUREAU FEDERATION PENNSYLVANIA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION RHODE ISLAND FARM BUREAU SOUTH CAROLINA FARM BUREAU FEDERATION SOUTH DAKOTA FARM BUREAU TEXAS FARM BUREAU UTAH FARM BUREAU FEDERATION VERMONT FARM BUREAU VIRGINIA BUREAU, INC. WASHINGTON FARM BUREAU WEST VIRGINIA FARM BUREAU WISCONSIN FARM BUREAU WYOMING FARM BUREAU FEDERATION This incentive may not be combined with the following incentives: 2014 Chevrolet Volt Loyalty Program, 2014 GM Competitive Lessee Conquest Cash See dealer for details. (Expires 09/30/2014)

 

Not sure I can qualify.

 

The 750 USSA discount does apply to the C7 . I tagged along with supplier pricing. My doc fee was 200. best of luck chris

 

I know that about 75.00 is allowed doc fee on GMS. Supplier I need to check rules take a minute or two be back with answer.
z51vett
No grammar check used if you are upset about my grammar ignore me.

 

Dealers can charge doc fees up to the max understate law. With that being said contact the state consumer office where you are buying from and ask. Remember these dealers went to the state government to get this passed into law.
z51vett
Doug
No grammar check here I'm not writing a collage paper for an English exam.

 

I second that on Les Stanford. I am using the GM Employee pricing and saving over $9,800 off MSRP. It's been a no-frills and no smoke and mirrors experience with them. Dennis Tap is the go-to-guy.

 

Unfortunately for me, in Florida, there us this:
http://www.realcartips.com/newcars/4...by-state.shtml

Without any regulation dealers can charge anything the desire as long as they stick it to all their customers equally.

Dealers went to court over the imposed $75 GM limit for doc fees on the GM car discounts and won. They do not have to abide by what GM says.

Personally I do not understand how a dealer in a state without any limit can charge more than the $75 amount imposed by GM on employee discounts (since the escape clause for this IMO is) :

Documentation fees
For the Employee Discount Program,
dealers will be permitted to assess a
maximum of $75 in documentary fees,
unless a higher maximum documentary
fee is specified by law. For the Supplier
Discount Program, dealers may charge
up to the amount allowable by state law.
Each dealer is responsible for complying
with applicable laws and regulations.

Where there is no cap or rule (no higher dollar amount is specified by law) so the dealer IMO has to live with the $75 Doc fee

For supplier discounts, if there is no cap imposed by the state, then the dealer can exceed the $75 cap by whatever their regular doc fee is - $500, $1000, $2000 or whatever

Makes shopping for a dealer with lower or no Doc fee worthwhile in a state like Florida. An out of state purchase is becoming a real possibility for me now.