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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 01:19 PM
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Is there a site I can go to, to follow up on the constraints? I hope by the time my car goes to get built, the roof will be available. The dealer said he will monitor to see if it comes available, but I would also like to keep tabs on it.
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 01:20 PM
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Just ask the dealer. You can't do it on your own.
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Assuming your dealer does not have an allocation with your contrained item, if you don't allow your dealer to modify your order to remove that item (for example, go with the transparent roof instead of the standard roof), then your order will sit at 1100 - it will not get built.

So, as mfear said, your dealer will be the first to know if they get an allocation that matches your order.

Constraint items will generally get posted on the forum as they are updated by GM.
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 01:36 PM
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I've been wondering the same thing. In my case, I was told on Thursday that my order would be picked up if I was willing to drop FAY. I went ahead with it since I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about the carbon fiber dash. If all goes as planned, I'll go to 2000 on Tuesday.

My question is this: We all know that changes can be made to orders up to a certain point which if I'm not mistaken is status code 3000. Might it be possible to add FAY as a change to the original order if I haven't hit 3000 by the time the next allocations are released (which I assume will be Thursday)? Has anyone here had success in this type of situation?
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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I've been wondering the same thing. In my case, I was told on Thursday that my order would be picked up if I was willing to drop FAY. I went ahead with it since I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about the carbon fiber dash. If all goes as planned, I'll go to 2000 on Tuesday.

My question is this: We all know that changes can be made to orders up to a certain point which if I'm not mistaken is status code 3000. Might it be possible to add FAY as a change to the original order if I haven't hit 3000 by the time the next allocations are released (which I assume will be Thursday)? Has anyone here had success in this type of situation?
That might be possible if the FAY constraint is completely eliminated. As long as it is constrained, it is not going to be allowed to be added to an order at 2000 - 3000. FAY has been constrained most allocation cycles since production started about a year ago.
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Old Jul 20, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TKay
Is there a site I can go to, to follow up on the constraints? I hope by the time my car goes to get built, the roof will be available. The dealer said he will monitor to see if it comes available, but I would also like to keep tabs on it.
There is no site a non-dealer can use to monitor the constraints. Occasionally, supporting Forum dealers will publish the weekly constraints, which come out on Thursdays, when the dealers get their consensus of allocations for the week, or two week, period.

There is another online forum concerning Stingrays, where one of their members who works at a dealer, publishes a JPG showing the constraint report they get, whenever one is published.

Typically, constraints are published as a percentage, such as Z51 - 55%, or FAY - 20%. This means that, nationwide, of 100 vettes ordered on that cycle, only 55 can be Z51s, or only 20 can have the FAY CF interior package. Usually, the constraints are also broken out by coupe or convertible, as some options only affect one or the other.

Given a percentage like 55, if a dealer only gets one allocation for the period, there is a fairly even chance that that allocation will allow a Z51 to be ordered. More allocations in the period mean a better chance of several Z51s. Likewise, the dealer would need at least 5 allocations to be fairly sure that one will include the FAY interior. That is not to say that an individual dealer won't get lucky and get a single allocation that includes FAY, as the percentages are nationwide. However, you can see why a dealer that sells large quantities of Corvettes will have an advantage. Getting an allocation of 50 vettes for a period, like Kerbeck or McMulkin, means they probably can order at least 25 Z51s and around 10 cars with the FAY interior, every period. Likewise, a dealer who only sells 5-10 per year might have trouble getting constrained options.

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Can all you constrained buyers stop removing your constrained items.. I'd like my non-constrained order to fill in an 8/11 tpw spot..

Thanks in advance.
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Originally Posted by fdxpilot
There is no site a non-dealer can use to monitor the constraints. Occasionally, supporting Forum dealers will publish the weekly constraints, which come out on Thursdays, when the dealers get their consensus of allocations for the week, or two week, period.

There is another online forum concerning Stingrays, where one of their members who works at a dealer, publishes a JPG showing the constraint report they get, whenever one is published.

Typically, constraints are published as a percentage, such as Z51 - 55%, or FAY - 20%. This means that, nationwide, of 100 vettes ordered on that cycle, only 55 can be Z51s, or only 20 can have the FAY CF interior package. Usually, the constraints are also broken out by coupe or convertible, as some options only affect one or the other.

Given a percentage like 55, if a dealer only gets one allocation for the period, there is a fairly even chance that that allocation will allow a Z51 to be ordered. More allocations in the period mean a better chance of several Z51s. Likewise, the dealer would need at least 5 allocations to be fairly sure that one will include the FAY interior. That is not to say that an individual dealer won't get lucky and get a single allocation that includes FAY, as the percentages are nationwide. However, you can see why a dealer that sells large quantities of Corvettes will have an advantage. Getting an allocation of 50 vettes for a period, like Kerbeck or McMulkin, means they probably can order at least 25 Z51s and around 10 cars with the FAY interior, every period. Likewise, a dealer who only sells 5-10 per year might have trouble getting constrained options.
Very well-stated. Thank you.
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The Z51 constraint has gotten better. This week we have 88 orders and 75 of them can be Z51s.

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Originally Posted by Woody
Can all you constrained buyers stop removing your constrained items.. I'd like my non-constrained order to fill in an 8/11 tpw spot..

Thanks in advance.
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Some may think the constraint "system" is preferential; and in a way it is.

If during a proposed production week scheduling meeting - they have orders for 10 cars with the CF dash... but only have 8 dashes to install; don't think that the first 8 orders (date wise) are the ones to get TPW's.

The top dealers will get preferential treatment; and may get put in line ahead of earlier orders. I'm not stating this positively or negatively; just that it is.

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Originally Posted by Woody
Can all you constrained buyers stop removing your constrained items.. I'd like my non-constrained order to fill in an 8/11 tpw spot..

Thanks in advance.
Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
Guess what..... I got my 8-11 tpw.
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Old Jul 25, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave@Kerbeck.com
The Z51 constraint has gotten better. This week we have 88 orders and 75 of them can be Z51s.

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That's interesting since Z51 constraint was at 55% this week so obviously that 55% isn't spread evenly across the dealers.
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Originally Posted by mjw930
That's interesting since Z51 constraint was at 55% this week so obviously that 55% isn't spread evenly across the dealers.
No its not. Some people get the short end of the stick at the whim of GM.
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Items are constrained for a specific production week. If you drop an item from your order this week, and your car moves to 3000, you can not add the constrained item back in as it will still not be available when your car is built. If the item is not on constraint next week, that means GM has determined that the item will be available during the production week associated with NEXT weeks orders, it will not be available when your car is built. It doesn't seem fair, but it is the only way to maintain production levels with the reality of unavailable parts. BG can't have almost finished cars sitting around the plant waiting for roofs, or dashes, or whatever. It's easier to understand if you remove this week from the equation. As far as the plant is concerned, from a parts supply standpoint, this week is 8/25, last week was 8/18, next week is 9/1 and so on..,
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