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I have not been a fan of Run-Flats and promptly switched them out to better tires on both my C5 and C6. Better ride, handling, and so much quieter.
For my C7, I have been VERY surprised how well the RF's perform and how quiet they are. I cant make a decision until I see the choices when it comes time to change shoes, but the OEM RF's are going to be a part of the mix.
OEM Michelin run flats perform great and give comfortable ride...however I just got my second flat in 6 months of ownership.
I'm starting to have some doubts about durability!!!!
The Michelin 'Pilot Sport A/S 3' comes in Z51 sizes. Has anyone used these on their Z51 specifically, and if so, what do you think?
I've posted this on many threads:
On my Z51, at 3,500 miles, I changed to Pilot Sport A/S 3's (non run flats) and I'm convinced they are the better all-around street tire. Less unsprung weight, much better tread wear, better gas mileage, less road noise, less flying debris, no tire hop, more capable in all weather conditions. I'll save the Super Sports and their incredible traction for the track.
I also now carry a small 12V compressor and plug kit onboard. That sucks.
How can a run flat continue to run with a blown out sidewall?
Inside Michelin run flats are a second "tire", which provides the structure when there is loss of air.
One thing to keep in mind when choosing your next set is that Michelin tires are OE for the first time ever with the C7. Lots of R&D went into their development.
When the time comes, I will replace my tires same as OE. I have 4,500 miles on them and have been very impressed with both grip and smoothness, as well as quiet. Don't see a reason to change.
I just hope Michelin can keep up with the demand!
And my C7 A6 vert is totally awesome!
....When the time comes, I will replace my tires same as OE. I have 4,500 miles on them and have been very impressed with both grip and smoothness, as well as quiet. Don't see a reason to change....
That's an easier choice when you live in the South. Summer only tires are a different matter the further North you live.
I ordered new wheels and the new tires I just ordered for them are non run flats, but still going with the MSS.
Beachcomber,
If you have a NonZ51 C& are you planning on taking tires off? I'm looking for a "like new" set of the Michelins for my 09' Z51 (same size)
Please let me
As you all know all season run flats are not currently available.
At the Ron Fellows Driving School last week it was announced that Michelin is working on the AS RFs ... available date not yet known ... If that is what you want ... try and hold on for a while.
Sam
4 blown tire events in my BMW 550 this past year on GoodYear run-flats due to deplorable road conditions in NJ and Pa this past year. In all cases, no loss of control as the tire blew out from the pot hole impact and I was able to drive home and deal with the proble in my warm, dry, well lit garage... not on the side of a dark road. Also, Spring Mountain Corvette Driving School uses Michelin Run-flats on their track cars where us 'students' burn up a set of tires in a matter of a few days. If non-run flats offered more performance, at a lower cost, I would guess the Spring Mountain crew would be using them. I'm a fan of run-flat technology and capabilities.
I replace mine with the same brand that came from the factory, except not a run flat, so far cant tell any differents, except now no rocks flying up in the air
Beachcomber,
If you have a NonZ51 C& are you planning on taking tires off? I'm looking for a "like new" set of the Michelins for my 09' Z51 (same size)
Please let me
This is a continually debated item on the forum and there are proponents of both types here. It is an individual choice and most likely will always be a debatable issue. I gave the run flats a shot for 1200 miles and found them by far the best run flats I have experienced, but they are still run flats and for street cruising are inferior for ride comfort and noise, perform lousy in cold weather, and were short-lived compared to the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3s that I replaced them with. I do carry a quality 12 volt compressor and Dynaplug kit with me as well as a can of slime if necessary. I will spring for a new sensor if required. I also replaced the run flats that came with on our Mini JCW. I may have to wait for a roll back at some point, but that is a risk that is acceptable to me.
Inside Michelin run flats are a second "tire", which provides the structure when there is loss of air.
One thing to keep in mind when choosing your next set is that Michelin tires are OE for the first time ever with the C7. Lots of R&D went into their development.
Hmmm, ZR1s & 427 Convertibles both came with Michelin PSS tires as original equipment. Also an option on Z06s, IIRC.
I'm buying a set of the Micheline Pilot SS non-run flats for my GS because I'm tired of the constant pounding from the crap Goodyear Eagles. I'm not worried cause I don't drive at 4:30 am,
How can a run flat continue to run with a blown out sidewall?
That is why they call it a run flat. The PSS run flats are quite good from a performance stand point although the GY EMTs on the C6Z weren't bad getting around a corner when warm. Michelin used to advertise their tire by drilling a large hole in the sidewall and running the car.
If the puncture is in the tread area the tire can be driven up to 50 miles at 55 mph and still be repaired. However, if you need to go further than that you can go a very long way as long as you check the tire once in a while to make sure it doesn't catch fire. A hell of a lot better than the slime or plug ideas especially if you are out on a rainy night trying to get your body under the left rear of the car to put a plug into the tread on a non run flat that has collapsed down on the rim. Might be a good way to get your legs run over by another car.
With a non run flat you have to repair the tire before moving or ruin the tire. If you are traveling and have to replace a non run flat tire you will have just as hard a time finding a replacement for a Corvette as if you were looking for a run flat but you don't have the option of moving the car on its own if you can't find one.
The Michelin tire that is on the C7 is the "Super Sport" tire which is the next generation past the "PS2" and offers about 12% more lateral grip and tread wear index has increased from about 200 to 300. The engineers said that the outer compound on the "SS" is the same as the one they run at Le Mans for grip and durability.
Michelin has broken the code on how to make a run flat tire all the rest are posers!
I've been through two sets of the Super Sports on my Audi A4 and love them.
Also the tires for the C7 Z06 will be the same sizes as the C6 ZR1 too!
Hmmm, ZR1s & 427 Convertibles both came with Michelin PSS tires as original equipment. Also an option on Z06s, IIRC.
Yes, you make a good point! Michelins did come on those special C6 models.
My bad - I was not clear about that. The C7 is the first time for Michelin to be OE for all models.
Never thought much about it until yesterday. Picked up a nail on the GSP here in Jersey and was able to get to the tire dealer without stopping. $35.00 and half an hour later was back on the road. Without Run Flats who knows how long I would have been on the parkway even with AAA.
I drive my vettes everyday. The last thing I want is to get stranded with a flat. In 150,000 miles on runflats I have had 7 flat tires and have never been stranded.
One time while on a drive from Florida to New Hampshire in my C6 I hit a pot hole the size of a Volkswagen on the Pennsylvania / New York state line and blew the bead. It was 4:30 in the morning on a Sunday. I drove 300 miles (at 55 MPH) on a completely flat tire.
I will always use run flats....
I decided long ago to stay with the run flats and stories like this one only confirms my decision!
Never thought much about it until yesterday. Picked up a nail on the GSP here in Jersey and was able to get to the tire dealer without stopping. $35.00 and half an hour later was back on the road. Without Run Flats who knows how long I would have been on the parkway even with AAA.
Was the $35 fee for a plug or patch or maybe both?
If it was for a plug, you might consider a patch as well if you and your ride are planning any high speed excursions???
my .02