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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 12:12 AM
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Anyone know if there will be a retro fit available for the data recorder system into the 2014 model. If so could I expect a dealership could do this. :yes nod: Thanks, Bob
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I doubt it. There's quite a bit more to it than just software.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 09:04 AM
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I doubt it. There's quite a bit more to it than just software.
So you do NOT know. Never mentioned just software,please reread post.

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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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The place for the camera is already there. Probably a unit can be placed in the car, the integration with the electronics will provably not be as good, if even possible. Might even have to place the display in the hidden compartment like some have their aftermarket navigation units.
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There is zero chance of the existing PDR as introduced in the 2015 models being able to be retrofit in to a 2014 Stingray. There ARE changes in software and hardware required for the PDR to function as in the 2015.

The PDR system as introduced uses a new module with a different computer, different GPS system (5x faster) than the navigation GPS as well as a complete wiring harness change from the new module (mounted in the rear of the car) to the glove box for the new SD card slot (dedicated to the PDR) and up to the Infotainment head unit.
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http://money.cnn.com/2014/08/19/auto...l?iid=HP_River

looks like it would be nice to have.
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Originally Posted by talon90
There is zero chance of the existing PDR as introduced in the 2015 models being able to be retrofit in to a 2014 Stingray. There ARE changes in software and hardware required for the PDR to function as in the 2015.

The PDR system as introduced uses a new module with a different computer, different GPS system (5x faster) than the navigation GPS as well as a complete wiring harness change from the new module (mounted in the rear of the car) to the glove box for the new SD card slot (dedicated to the PDR) and up to the Infotainment head unit.
This is the only reason I waited to order the 2015.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 11:10 AM
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The PDR would appear to have a tight integration with the systems of the 2015, which is its main strength, and also what makes it very unlikely to be retrofitted to a 2014. Fortunately, there is already a considerable aftermarket in this area, and has been for over a decade... Lots of different data systems out there, most have video options these days, and often with better specs and prices than the PDR. It's just not integrated into the car like the PDR is.
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
The place for the camera is already there. Probably a unit can be placed in the car, the integration with the electronics will provably not be as good, if even possible. Might even have to place the display in the hidden compartment like some have their aftermarket navigation units.

My neighbor recorded some show on....velocity channel, I think....about Rick Hendrick taking delivery of his *2014* C7.

One of the things talked about was the PDR installed on the car.

Hendricks other endeavors aside, they did not say it was a DIY mod after purchase, so the implication it was done at the factory.

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Originally Posted by rjcsue
So you do NOT know. Never mentioned just software,please reread post.

Thanks, Bob
OK, fine. On that premise, I'm sure it's possible. Of course, anything is possible if one is willing to pay enough.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rjcsue
So you do NOT know. Never mentioned just software,please reread post.

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Yes, he DID know. The question was whether it's possible to retrofit a PDR in a 2014. Answer: it is not. Some people think it's just a software update and a camera in the right place. It is not. It's a whole new system.

And then there are the people who are mad that you can't get nav without PDR, and the people who are mad that you can't get PDR without nav, and the people who are mad that the whole rig costs $1,795 (the same price as nav alone, not so many years ago). I suppose there may be even people mad that no other sports car in the world has anything like it at any price.
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Originally Posted by aj98
My neighbor recorded some show on....velocity channel, I think....about Rick Hendrick taking delivery of his *2014* C7.

One of the thinks talked about was the PDR installed on the car.

Hendricks other endeavors aside, they did not say it was a DIY mod after purchase, so the implication it was done at the factory.
From the beginning the PDR was a planned 2014 option. There were several 2014 cars (not production cars) built with PDR installed. This is why we have a SD card slot and why we have an opening in the back of the base of the rearview mirror and that odd shape to the front sun shade pattern on the top of the windshield. There were some delays in development, some delays from the supply chain and some issues with the functionality. As time went on it was pushed to a late model year intro and finally it was decided that it was going to have to be changed significantly to make it work as designed. At that point, it became a 2015 feature.

While I would not doubt for a second that Mr. Hendricks got it if he wanted it with his VIN 00001 car, it was my recollection from that show that he was talking about the feature, not about having it on his car. I know that he knew about the planned implementation but I don't know for certain one way or the other if he in fact got on his car. If he did, He likely would have received the 2014 version (which I've seen in operation) and while it functions, it wasn't going to be good enough for track duty as it couldn't keep up real time with the progress of the car around the track and the inputs on the video overlay. The accuracy of the current GPS and speed of data collection limited the output.
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by talon90
From the beginning the PDR was a planned 2014 option. There were several 2014 cars (not production cars) built with PDR installed. This is why we have a SD card slot and why we have an opening in the back of the base of the rearview mirror and that odd shape to the front sun shade pattern on the top of the windshield. There were some delays in development, some delays from the supply chain and some issues with the functionality. As time went on it was pushed to a late model year intro and finally it was decided that it was going to have to be changed significantly to make it work as designed. At that point, it became a 2015 feature.

While I would not doubt for a second that Mr. Hendricks got it if he wanted it with his VIN 00001 car, it was my recollection from that show that he was talking about the feature, not about having it on his car. I know that he knew about the planned implementation but I don't know for certain one way or the other if he in fact got on his car. If he did, He likely would have received the 2014 version (which I've seen in operation) and while it functions, it wasn't going to be good enough for track duty as it couldn't keep up real time with the progress of the car around the track and the inputs on the video overlay. The accuracy of the current GPS and speed of data collection limited the output.
Wonder how many miles are now on his car, if any?
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Old Aug 20, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aj98
My neighbor recorded some show on....velocity channel, I think....about Rick Hendrick taking delivery of his *2014* C7.

One of the things talked about was the PDR installed on the car.

Hendricks other endeavors aside, they did not say it was a DIY mod after purchase, so the implication it was done at the factory.


On the show he did say the car had a front and rear camera.
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Originally Posted by talon90
From the beginning the PDR was a planned 2014 option. There were several 2014 cars (not production cars) built with PDR installed. This is why we have a SD card slot and why we have an opening in the back of the base of the rearview mirror and that odd shape to the front sun shade pattern on the top of the windshield. There were some delays in development, some delays from the supply chain and some issues with the functionality. As time went on it was pushed to a late model year intro and finally it was decided that it was going to have to be changed significantly to make it work as designed. At that point, it became a 2015 feature.

While I would not doubt for a second that Mr. Hendricks got it if he wanted it with his VIN 00001 car, it was my recollection from that show that he was talking about the feature, not about having it on his car. I know that he knew about the planned implementation but I don't know for certain one way or the other if he in fact got on his car. If he did, He likely would have received the 2014 version (which I've seen in operation) and while it functions, it wasn't going to be good enough for track duty as it couldn't keep up real time with the progress of the car around the track and the inputs on the video overlay. The accuracy of the current GPS and speed of data collection limited the output.
was this why the 1st videos released of the pdr in january looked so laggy and out of synch?
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Originally Posted by HolyRoller
Yes, he DID know. The question was whether it's possible to retrofit a PDR in a 2014. Answer: it is not. Some people think it's just a software update and a camera in the right place. It is not. It's a whole new system.
Sure sounds like he knew to me.
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