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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 01:15 PM
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I noticed that when listening to an SD card and I press the power button on the audio system to turn it off:

1) The sound goes off

2) The SD card keeps playing. The track timer keeps counting down and it will switch to the next track at the end of each song.

3) I have to press the pause button to stop it.

It's not a big problem but I was wondering if this is a unique problem on my unit.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 01:17 PM
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Mine does the exact same thing. I have read somewhere on this forum that the unit is designed that way. Apparently the "off" button does NOT turn the unit off, it just mutes the audio...
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 01:29 PM
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Try holding button in till the display shows big clock face and then see if it is off?
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 01:31 PM
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ANNNNNNNNNNNND again.

The system MUTES when U tap the off button.. for convenience if U need a break. Holding the button in for 2-3secs Turns it off completely. If U need to PAUSE.. hit the PAUSE button INSTEAD of the Off Button. That simple

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A) It does not stop the recording on the SD or USB.

B) It will pause it if U are STREAMING via Bluetooth (Pandora, Spotify etc.)

BTW.. U don't even really need to use the Pandora app in the car if U are streaming Pandora from your phone.. it will give U full control from the Headset.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cmicasa

The system MUTES when U tap the off button..
I'm new here, and I know this has been discussed at length, but kindly forgive me for not attempting to grep through the forum for "off" or "power".

So, let me ask quickly then run for cover:

WHAT IDIOT thought it was a good idea to redefine the universal ON/OFF symbol to now be MUTE/PAUSE...? that's just stupid, and of all the nit picky things I've read here about the C7, this one actually annoys me greatly.

The menu navigation is also really odd, where clicking the middle select button on the steering wheel will cancel the operation while clicking "right arrow" goes to another menu and click "left arrow" actually performs the selection operation. W.T.F.? Seriously? The menu navigation is so completely un-intuitive, it... it... gah! I can't stand to think about it anymore.
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Old Sep 24, 2014 | 11:40 PM
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ANNNNNNNNNNNND again.

The system MUTES when U tap the off button.. for convenience if U need a break. Holding the button in for 2-3secs Turns it off completely. If U need to PAUSE.. hit the PAUSE button INSTEAD of the Off Button. That simple

Review:

A) It does not stop the recording on the SD or USB.

B) It will pause it if U are STREAMING via Bluetooth (Pandora, Spotify etc.)

BTW.. U don't even really need to use the Pandora app in the car if U are streaming Pandora from your phone.. it will give U full control from the Headset.


Quick press of the power button mutes it.

Your screen even shows it's muted.
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by billeee
I noticed that when listening to an SD card and I press the power button on the audio system to turn it off:

1) The sound goes off

2) The SD card keeps playing. The track timer keeps counting down and it will switch to the next track at the end of each song.

3) I have to press the pause button to stop it.

It's not a big problem but I was wondering if this is a unique problem on my unit.
A momentary press of the power button mutes the audio. A press and hold of the power button will cycle the power off (which will stop the playback).
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by barryh
I'm new here, and I know this has been discussed at length, but kindly forgive me for not attempting to grep through the forum for "off" or "power".

So, let me ask quickly then run for cover:

WHAT IDIOT thought it was a good idea to redefine the universal ON/OFF symbol to now be MUTE/PAUSE...? that's just stupid, and of all the nit picky things I've read here about the C7, this one actually annoys me greatly.

The menu navigation is also really odd, where clicking the middle select button on the steering wheel will cancel the operation while clicking "right arrow" goes to another menu and click "left arrow" actually performs the selection operation. W.T.F.? Seriously? The menu navigation is so completely un-intuitive, it... it... gah! I can't stand to think about it anymore.
A great deal of radios now have the Power and Mute button as the same. Ford, BMW, Lexus.. they all have gone this route on some of their vehicles too. I see nothing wrong with it. The less extra buttons the better
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After reading this thread and thinking about it. I suppose knowing that is how the system is designed to work, it's actually very functional and not a big deal at all.

Just like turning a phone or tablet off, hold the button power button for a couple of seconds until the unit tuns off and all functions cease.

If I wanted to talk to someone or listen for a noise, I'd use the pause function anyway rather than mute. (as I would not want to lose the place in the song or audio book I was listening to). For all intents and purpose, the mute is useless and offer less functionality than pause.

Guess the engineers figured they could retain it using the function of a "tap the off" button to mute without adding another button. Clever and does make sense "volume is off". Hold for 2 seconds and the entire unit is off. Easy Peasy
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Old Sep 25, 2014 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SG_Ret
After reading this thread and thinking about it. I suppose knowing that is how the system is designed to work, it's actually very functional and not a big deal at all.

Just like turning a phone or tablet off, hold the button power button for a couple of seconds until the unit tuns off and all functions cease.

If I wanted to talk to someone or listen for a noise, I'd use the pause function anyway rather than mute. (as I would not want to lose the place in the song or audio book I was listening to). For all intents and purpose, the mute is useless and offer less functionality than pause.

Guess the engineers figured they could retain it using the function of a "tap the off" button to mute without adding another button. Clever and does make sense "volume is off". Hold for 2 seconds and the entire unit is off. Easy Peasy
I need to try this again. In my 3LT 2014 with nav, I started a song playing, then pressed and held the power/mute button until the clock display appeared. Waited a bit and pressed power and I think the song resumed but not from the point I stopped it. Like the song was still going on quietly inside the computer.
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by talon90
A momentary press of the power button mutes the audio. A press and hold of the power button will cycle the power off (which will stop the playback).
My car doesn't work this way. Pressing and holding the power button cycles the power off, but the current location within the song continues to advance. Wait a minute, press power again, and the audio unmutes and you can see the song was NOT stopped during the "off" cycle. It continued "playing" silently.
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Old Sep 26, 2014 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by barryh
My car doesn't work this way. Pressing and holding the power button cycles the power off, but the current location within the song continues to advance. Wait a minute, press power again, and the audio unmutes and you can see the song was NOT stopped during the "off" cycle. It continued "playing" silently.
Well, it that's the case, then there is something wrong. Turning the unit completely off should cease all functions within the radio. Turning the unit back on should pick up the track exactly where you left off.

I would try hold the power button in for 5 or so seconds just to make sure you are giving the unit the correct command.
I'm guessing you are doing it properly, but sometimes what we think is a sufficient amount of time may not be. I've had this issue with some electronic devices I've owned. I had to be very deliberate in the powering on and off of some products (especially with certain tablets, digital music players and cell phones).

If it's still acting up, run it into the dealer. I wouldn't want mine to be operating that way.
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Old Sep 27, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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I can also verify that pressing the Power Off/mute button long enough to turn off the entertainment display and show the clock does NOT stop music playing on a media device. It merely mutes the audio while the song continues to run.

This is simply unjustifiable. It is the product of engineers who never used their own system in practical operation.
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Old Sep 27, 2014 | 03:40 PM
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WHAT IDIOT thought it was a good idea to redefine the universal ON/OFF symbol to now be MUTE/PAUSE...?
Apparently you haven't tapped the power button on a computer lately.....
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Old Sep 27, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SG_Ret
After reading this thread and thinking about it. I suppose knowing that is how the system is designed to work, it's actually very functional and not a big deal at all.

Just like turning a phone or tablet off, hold the button power button for a couple of seconds until the unit tuns off and all functions cease.

If I wanted to talk to someone or listen for a noise, I'd use the pause function anyway rather than mute. (as I would not want to lose the place in the song or audio book I was listening to). For all intents and purpose, the mute is useless and offer less functionality than pause.

Guess the engineers figured they could retain it using the function of a "tap the off" button to mute without adding another button. Clever and does make sense "volume is off". Hold for 2 seconds and the entire unit is off. Easy Peasy
So you're driving down the road, and decide to stop the audio for a while because you're in an unfamiliar city and you'd like to concentrate on the driving... at the same time, you don't want to miss some of the best parts of the album you're listening to. No problem, just hold the ON/OFF button down for a few seconds! System Off.

.... oh wait, you just shut off your NAV system too. Relax, they designed it that way - the engineers figure that in a nice quiet environment, you'll have plenty of time to figure out WHERE THE &%&*& YOU ARE!

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Originally Posted by c5eddiem
So you're driving down the road, and decide to stop the audio for a while because you're in an unfamiliar city and you'd like to concentrate on the driving... at the same time, you don't want to miss some of the best parts of the album you're listening to. No problem, just hold the ON/OFF button down for a few seconds! System Off.

.... oh wait, you just shut off your NAV system too. Relax, they designed it that way - the engineers figure that in a nice quiet environment, you'll have plenty of time to figure out WHERE THE &%&*& YOU ARE!

Ed
Actually I'd probably use the pause button.

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The mute/pause controversy has been beaten to death in a few different threads now, and we are just covering old turf with the two views on the matter. The only new information with this thread is the fact that a complete system display shutdown, emulating "Power Off" on a dedicated hardware device, does not stop the active track on a media device. That is insane and the only analogy would be a radio station... "It doesn't stop playing the song when you turn off your radio." But that is the reason we use our own media rather than listening to the radio... We want that extra control that we don't have over the radio.

I fall firmly into the camp of expecting an audio-only playback system that has only a single exposed hardware button to link a cessation of music playback (mute) with a pause of the source track. There is no logical justification for mute without pause on an audio-only device. Comparisons to PCs, DVD players, VCRs, and other multimedia devices are meaningless. There is no situation in which you would want to watch the playback timer continue to advance on your audio screen even though you can't hear what is being played.

Yes, the Infotainment system has a software screen-touch to pause a track. Yes, that is obviously the way to pause and resume playback. You must have that screen displayed in order to use it. If you get a phone call, stop at a toll booth, or have a police officer tap on your window while your screen is on NAV or HOME or WEATHER or something else, you have neither the inclination nor the concentration to change your display to audio functionality and then locate and press the proper spot on the screen. You go for the big obvious hardware button that stops the music playing. The fact that it does not simultaneously pause the track is silly. I can make a case for linking the two functions... I can make no such case for keeping them as separate tasks. Therefore the use case that makes sense is the one that should have been engineered.

Everything else is rationalization for the way it IS implemented... Not a logical reason for WHY it should work that way.
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Originally Posted by barryh
WHAT IDIOT thought it was a good idea to redefine the universal ON/OFF symbol to now be MUTE/PAUSE...? that's just stupid, and of all the nit picky things I've read here about the C7, this one actually annoys me greatly.
Not MUTE/PAUSE....MUTE/ON-OFF......big difference.
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Old Sep 28, 2014 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KenHorse
Apparently you haven't tapped the power button on a computer lately.....
I can't speak for Apple products, but pressing the "ON/OFF" button on any computer running a modern Windows OS will cause the system to either shut down, go to sleep, or hibernate -- depending on how the user has configured the system.

In all cases that I can imagine, if there is an application playing a local copy of a media file, whether audio or video, the application will NOT CONTINUE TO PLAY the file in any of the "off"-equivalent states, whether shut down, asleep, or hibernated. The PC is for all practical purposes "off" and media playback is halted. Whether or not playback automatically resumes when the system is powered back on, depends on the media player application. I've never seen a media player automatically resume playing at (t) + (power off duration); best case it would continue playing from the point when the hibernation or sleep operation happened.

For typical Android phones, quickly tapping the "On/Off" button will turn off the display and allow music (audio) to continue playing. Pressing and holding the power button will initiate a shut down or reboot of the phone, and in that case the music certainly doesn't continue to play, either aloud or muted! So I'd posit that the "On/Off" button on a phone has two distinct meanings, neither of which behave anything like the C7 stereo's "Power" button.
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