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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Your money, your choice. If I had in excess of say, 10 million net worth, I might make buying choices with less regard for getting the best price I could. Since I don't I'll be buying my C7 this winter for the best deal I can manage. In your situation I wouldn't place much value on the local dealers goodwill as a result of buying from them. They make a lot of money on service so for them to be less accommodating servicing a car you bought elsewhere wouldn't be a wise financial strategy. As far as convenience you could order from any dealer in the country and have a courtesy delivery to your local dealer for $300-$600. I'd get the best price I could from checking with the big dealers and give the local dealer a chance to match it, or at the least come very close.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cal45
If buying out right without a trade in, then no - you shouldn't have to pay MSRP. If you are trading in a car, then the starting point is the MSRP # - the negotiation in driving the price down is actually have the dealer raise the $$ they are giving you on your trade in.
That worked for me last November 2 when Dealer stock of C7s was very limited with options/color of interest to me. Living just outside Philly, Pa all Chevy Dealers including 2 of the tops in Corvette sales within 100 miles lowballed me from $4-10k for my trade-in. Sellers market. Patience finally paid off getting exactly my trades value plus $2k at a local Dealer and the additional Pa State Sales tax saving in excess of $2k.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bglmn
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you. But if

you ever have a problem with your car... and it's in the "grey" area

of warranty coverage (blown engines, front shock mounts,

etc.)...you'll be singing a different tune, if you didn't buy local.

No you aren't. Your warranty agreement is with GM, not your local dealer. in 30+ years of buying new cars or used cars still under warranty I can count on one hand the number of times I have bought local and never, even once, have I had an issue with warranty coverage and I have had some major system replaced though I have only blown one motor and that took a lawsuit with VW to get fixed.

For me it's simple math, I calculate what the car will cost me buying from the least expensive dealer, factor in the travel or shipping costs then use that total cost as a yardstick for what I will pay locally. If the local dealer gets within $500 of the cost of doing business elsewhere they got my business, it's that simple.

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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:20 AM
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Of course not. Its always better to pay MSRP rather than getting a 5K+ discount with a little research.

Actually, I think the question is rather foolish.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:21 AM
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If I have to pay sticker for a car, it will remain where it is.
No reason to be paying msrp on these cars at this point. I don't care if you're a gazillionaire. Get the savings and donate the extra money to a good cause. Screw buying local if that's not where the deals are.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by bglmn
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you. But if

you ever have a problem with your car... and it's in the "grey" area

of warranty coverage (blown engines, front shock mounts,

etc.)...you'll be singing a different tune, if you didn't buy local.

I would argue that if you saved $6000 plus by not paying MSRP you could afford to make some grey market repairs if need be or afford a few hours of a lawyer's time if necessary. Plus for the vast majority of buyers they won't have such problems. I don't begrudge a dealer from making a profit and I don't begrudge a buyer from paying a premium for something they really want. To me, the Corvette is not worth MSRP and I would not pay sticker price for it, especially for the higher optioned models, but if someone else is willing to then that's why capitalism works. Similarly if a dealer is only willing to keep a car on the lot for a short period of time so they can make money on volume they're going to make just as much, in fact probably much more, than the dealer who will keep the car on the lot for a longer period of time so that he can make more profit on that 1 car, but that's their choice.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 11:59 AM
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No need to pay msrp on the base C7 ever again...
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bglmn
I understand what you're saying, and I agree with you. But if

you ever have a problem with your car... and it's in the "grey" area

of warranty coverage (blown engines, front shock mounts,

etc.)...you'll be singing a different tune, if you didn't buy local.

True but that is an extremely expensive "insurance policy"

I would take the chance of getting a good reliable car and buy from a forum sponsor and save as much as possible.

BUT get all maintenance done by the local dealer. ALL of it. Throw them a few accessory install bones and it becomes "their car"

Remember not many Corvette buyers are aware of forums and know about Supplier pricing. All three local dealers know this and price accordingly ....at or....above MSRP.

$7000 is a lot of "extra" money to pay for local dealer "peace of mind" and there is no guarantee they will even take responsibility and the car could be hung up for months waiting for a resolution anyway
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkgfr
No need to pay msrp on the base C7 ever again...
Even Z51 cars are available under MSRP. However this is now and more units unsold are sitting on dealer's lots. A year ago wasn't the case, demand was way more than supply, dealers commanded and got MSPR and more. Now we have the ZO6, try getting one of the first under MSRP.

Local dealers are now matching the deals of the larger Corvette dealers and there really is no reason to purchase hundreds of miles away.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 07:43 PM
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A year ago....MSRP was the norm! Now it is not! There are discounts out there and some hefty ones. Why pay more than you have to? I would not pay MSRP at this stage of the game!
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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I recently purchased a 2015 C7 from Kerbeck of NJ. The purchase was the easiest deal I ever had on a new vehicle and on top of it, they discounted the Corvette by $4326 off window sticker. I flew into Philadelphia and they had a car pick me up and transported me to the dealership. I drove the car home and it got 30.7 MPG, the trip was well worth it. The local dealer here were hiding their 2015's from the public and only showed the 2014's in the showroom. The local dealer is arrogant and when I asked about the price they wanted $5000 over window sticker. Travel to Kerbeck , it's worth it. I ended up paying less then the window with taxes and title included.

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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 08:49 PM
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Unless money is not an issue, I think you are foolish paying MSRP. As far as getting a relationship with a local dealer, I would think that they would want your work and your positive service grade. Plus a nice tip with a" take good care of my car" goes a long way if it is that important for you to establish a relationship a dealer's service area.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by olympic
I get the sense from Forum contributors that those who pay MSRP for their 2015 Stingray (non-Z51) are a bit foolish.
At the risk of being embarrassed by saying I'm paying MSRP ($62,275) for my Silver/Black, 2LT, A8, with some minor RPOs, are there not a great many out there who are also paying or paid MSRP?
I considered buying from Criswell among others where I would have saved a few thousand $…and I came close.
And then I thought about a flight, a winter drive across country, and wanting to have a sound relationship with a local dealer--so I went local with a dealer who is Corvette savvy and anything but arrogant.
Am I really that foolish?

Well, at MSRP your local dealer is making a very substantial profit off your purchase. Even a local dealer has plenty of room to provide you with a multi-thousand dollar discount on a new C7, and still earn a good profit. Dealers drool over MSRP customers.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry/car
Even Z51 cars are available under MSRP. However this is now and more units unsold are sitting on dealer's lots. A year ago wasn't the case, demand was way more than supply, dealers commanded and got MSPR and more. Now we have the ZO6, try getting one of the first under MSRP.

Local dealers are now matching the deals of the larger Corvette dealers and there really is no reason to purchase hundreds of miles away.
Pick the M7 Z06 and you just might get under MSRP. Looks like most want the A8 and M7's are gonna show up first and not a lot of demand for them.
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:23 PM
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First off...Congrats on your new Vette...
Second...Its your $$$...do what you do

Third...These cars are not commanding MSRP anymore ( Beside the Z06)...The Vette is on its second year....and the supply for the Vette is definitely more than the demand....All my dealership around me are discounting

That being said...Most people that I spoke too are getting thousands off with or without the Z51 package...and most people are getting GM Supplier discounts or Credit Union discounts ( as most dealer are accepting them)

Check out Kerbeck...Fire Sale

In regards to your local dealer, they should be willing to at least give you 5%-10% off MSRP ...TRUST ME...The owner of the dealership is making $$$ off you....Plus it helps with their quota of the month by selling the car....
Just show them the Kerbeck ad...Get the discounts and use the extra cash on aftermarket Exhaust and maybe Rims...

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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:32 PM
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"Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price can be misleading bc this MSRP is extremely high compared to actual wholesale cost, opening the market to 'deep discounter' who are able to sell products substantially below the MSRP while still making a profit.

The discount stores benefit from exorbitant MSRP's bc the discount offered increases the perceived value to customers"



MSRP in general terms...not GM specific I might add
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Old Oct 19, 2014 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by olympic
... and wanting to have a sound relationship with a local dealer--so I went local with a dealer who is Corvette savvy and anything but arrogant.
Am I really that foolish?
With any local (regardless of brand) you may want to be on the lookout for the "yo-yo' car sale trap. A new scam some dealers have developed. Read about it at C6 Discussion and here's what I found on the net - www.money.cnn.com/2004/01/14/pf/autos/yoyo/

I don't think for a minute our forum dealers partake in this practice. But your local dealer may vary.
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Originally Posted by sam90lx
Pick the M7 Z06 and you just might get under MSRP. Looks like most want the A8 and M7's are gonna show up first and not a lot of demand for them.
Agree with that also and by late summer all of em will be at discount up to the c8....
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by olympic
I get the sense from Forum contributors that those who pay MSRP for their 2015 Stingray (non-Z51) are a bit foolish.
At the risk of being embarrassed by saying I'm paying MSRP ($62,275) for my Silver/Black, 2LT, A8, with some minor RPOs, are there not a great many out there who are also paying or paid MSRP?
I considered buying from Criswell among others where I would have saved a few thousand $…and I came close.
And then I thought about a flight, a winter drive across country, and wanting to have a sound relationship with a local dealer--so I went local with a dealer who is Corvette savvy and anything but arrogant.
Am I really that foolish?
Yes, I think so. Because based on current information, with two or three phone calls, you could have saved up to $7K on your purchase.
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Old Oct 20, 2014 | 02:01 AM
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yes....paying 6k+ extra when you can order exactly what you want and have it delivered to your local dealer (courtesy delivery) is beyond me. But it's your money and your welcome to give more of it to your dealer.
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