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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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Anxious for my C7 order to work its way through the system, I was browsing the owners manual I doenloaded ...

Under break-in, there is this guidance:
Do not let the engine labor. Never lug the engine. With a manual transmission, shift to the next lower gear. This rule applies at all times, not just during the break-in period.

They already said earlier not to go over 4000 revs so what is additionally meant by "Do not let the engine labor" ( ie beyond rev levels). What is "lug the engine"?

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what is additionally meant by "Do not let the engine labor" ( ie beyond rev levels). What is "lug the engine"?

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It means don't have the revs too low when driving. Low revs while cruising along is fine but downshift if you're going to accelerate. Some will tell you it's ok to accelerate from very low revs. It's not. Not just at break in, but at any time.
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Lug the engine is just the opposite of high revs. Lugging the engine means you are in a high gear at a very low speed, especially when you then try to accelerate.
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Lug the engine is just the opposite of high revs. Lugging the engine means you are in a high gear at a very low speed, especially when you then try to accelerate.
Ahhhh, cool, thanks for the clarification
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Originally Posted by sting15ray
Anxious for my C7 order to work its way through the system, I was browsing the owners manual I doenloaded ...

Under break-in, there is this guidance:
Do not let the engine labor. Never lug the engine. With a manual transmission, shift to the next lower gear. This rule applies at all times, not just during the break-in period.

They already said earlier not to go over 4000 revs so what is additionally meant by "Do not let the engine labor" ( ie beyond rev levels). What is "lug the engine"?

Thanks
I would normally say ~1100 to 1200 rpm, below that is what I consider lugging but the owner’s manual for a Z51 (you can calculate for the base model or automatic) indicates much lower! Or this is what I interpret. On page 9-31 of the owner's manual they give the shift speeds for “best fuel economy.” This is the suggested shift speed and I put the rpm that calculates to in ( ). Shift to 4 from 1st (GM likes that and in fact at the 17 mph suggested you’ll get skip shift activated. That is 743 rpm! May be fine for an EPA test but not for me! Here are the others listed: shift to 5th @25 mph (=776 rpm); shift to 6th at 40 mph (=997 rpm); shift to 7th @ 45 rpm (= 944 rpm.) Perhaps that is ok with very little throttle during an EPA test (probably what GM used) but with modest throttle I will still use minimum of 1100 to 1200 rpm. During break-in I’d use 1500 rpm minimum.

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Thanks all, interesting stuff, lots to think about for those first 1500 miles!
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Originally Posted by sting15ray
Thanks all, interesting stuff, lots to think about for those first 1500 miles!
Break in period is 500 miles, not 1,500. The 1,500 only applies to the following items:


For the first 2414 km (1500 mi):
. Do not participate in track
events, sport driving schools,
or similar activities during the
first 2414 km (1500 mi).
. Check engine oil with every
refueling and add if necessary.
Oil and fuel consumption may be
higher than normal during the
first 2414 km (1500 mi).


FYI, the red-line on the tach will change once you hit 500 miles. It also is lower until the engine is sufficiently warmed up.
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You'll know it if you're doing it - the car doesn't like it. You feel all kinds of nasty things in the drivetrain as it tries to "fight" its way out of the low rpm condition. VERY high loads on key parts like bearings, etc. that leads to premature wear or failure. Increased chance of pre-ignition (pinging / detonation). All bad. It's really quite easy to avoid.
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Originally Posted by Zymurgy
Break in period is 500 miles, not 1,500. The 1,500 only applies to the following items:


For the first 2414 km (1500 mi):
. Do not participate in track
events, sport driving schools,
or similar activities during the
first 2414 km (1500 mi).
. Check engine oil with every
refueling and add if necessary.
Oil and fuel consumption may be
higher than normal during the
first 2414 km (1500 mi).


FYI, the red-line on the tach will change once you hit 500 miles. It also is lower until the engine is sufficiently warmed up.
The owners manual, under break-in period, refers to three thresholds ... Considerations leading up to 200, 500, and 1500 miles.

My "... lots of things to think about for those first 1500 miles" comment spanned all three regimes

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As others have stated, lugging an engine is NEVER good, but is REALLY BAD during the break-in period.

It is important to understand that what constitutes "lugging" is not only a function of rpm but also engine load and number of cylinders. A V-8 can tolerate load at lower rpms than a 4-cyl due to twice as many power strokes per revolution of the crank. That said, ANY engine can be "lugged" given the right circumstances.

Cruising along at a steady speed on a flat road at 1000 rpm is not lugging an engine. Trying to maintain that same speed at the same rpm on a steep incline is lugging the engine. Trying to accelerate with any authority at all from that same rpm would also lug the engine.

Automatics are programmed to downshift and prevent lugging, so this is mainly a manual trans issue. If you sense the engine is laboring to accelerate or maintain speed, it's time to downshift.
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Old Nov 19, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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I don't know if it's been mentioned before but I'd also avoid any engine breaking during and for awhile after breakin. It can cause increased oil consumption.
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