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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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I am working on getting a handle on heel and toe. (It's not easy...) Is it my imagination or am I correct in thinking that the distance between the brake pedal and accelerator is a bit further than it should be or is it just my incompetence speaking?

If those of you who are proficient in the technique find the placement ok then the problem is clearly with me.

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 03:22 PM
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I am working on getting a handle on heel and toe. (It's not easy...) Is it my imagination or am I correct in thinking that the distance between the brake pedal and accelerator is a bit further than it should be or is it just my incompetence speaking?

If those of you who are proficient in the technique find the placement ok then the problem is clearly with me.

Thanks!
I am not proficient but on my C6 and now C7 it is toe on brake and side of foot hits gas. At least that is what I did with my C6. With the C6, on the street I was pretty good at high rpm but not at part throttle. With the C7 however I’m perfect all over! We’ll not my skill, it’s Rev Match. I use it all the time! For example in the rural area where I live when cursing on a 55 mph two lane road in 5th or 6th I often shift to 3rd when turning on to another two lane 55 mph road. Perfect for accelerating to 60 mph. Perfect smooth rpm match!

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Old Nov 24, 2014 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by gregd
I am working on getting a handle on heel and toe. (It's not easy...) Is it my imagination or am I correct in thinking that the distance between the brake pedal and accelerator is a bit further than it should be or is it just my incompetence speaking?

If those of you who are proficient in the technique find the placement ok then the problem is clearly with me.

Thanks!
I personally found that the pedal placement was just right. However, I get a perfect throttle blip every time when I have rev matching turned on.
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I personally found that the pedal placement was just right. However, I get a perfect throttle blip every time when I have rev matching turned on.
But I'd still like to learn to do it with my foot. Just for poo and giggles, I guess. Kinda a personal challenge thing.
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But I'd still like to learn to do it with my foot. Just for poo and giggles, I guess. Kinda a personal challenge thing.
I'm the same way.
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C7 had very good pedal placement in support of traditional 'heal toe' operation. Remember, the term 'heal toe' has nothing to do with either the toe or heal of your foot..... it is all in the placement of the ball of your foot and the rocking of the right edge of your foot onto the accelerator while maintaining constant pressure with the ball of your foot on the brake. Proper seat placement, moving your knee and calf help in achieving the proper action of your foot on the pedals. Practice make perfect!

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I got so I could do it just OK when I was at Spring Mountain, but when it came time to actually run hard around the track, I slid into the 21st century and turned on rev-matching. It worked perfect every time.
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Here is how the BMW/Skip Barber Advanced Driving School students were instructed to do it.

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Every day that I am able to use the rev matching feature on my 2015 Z51 7M I like it more and more!!
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I believe heel and toe is an old term. If my memory serves me correctly a lotus super 7 had the peddles setup with the clutch peddle at your heel and the gas at your toe. Today it is as you said foot and side of foot. When I taught my son we went to our back yard and practiced. any jerkyness was dampered by the slip of the grass, plus less strain on the drive train. As always, if you want to learn to drive fast learn to drive slow first. I never drove rev matching, I'm sure it works wonderful. Just wondering, what happens when you miss a shift?
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Depends on the car. I've had cars where I use heel-toe and other cars where I use the side of my foot. Both are correct and you use the one that's right for you in that particular car.
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