Porsche build quality vs Corvette build quality
#161
Burning Brakes
I looked at a Cayman S before buying a C7 Z51, as a DD. I LOVED the surround audio system - it sounded absolutely amazing, way better than any other stock radio I've heard. The car I drove had plastic dash and doors - don't know enough about Porsche options or how much it costs (or availability) of full leather interior like the 3LT.
What knocked it out for me was driving it over bad roads - that little Cayman S over bad roads made track mode on a Z51 feel like a luxury suspension. I couldn't live with the suspension on a daily basis. On good to great roads, the car was super tight and responsive - more-so than the vette, albeit no comparison for power. Exterior on the Porsche to me - boring vs the vette, exotic and beautiful.
I got super lucky and got a 2016 Z51 with absolutely no orange peel. I know this really varies from car to car. Hoping the paint issue is laid to rest in 2018. Every vette I've had has had rattles. To me, they come with vette ownership. Too bad - perhaps. But worth living with, with all the plusses that come with vette ownership - absofrickinlutely.
What knocked it out for me was driving it over bad roads - that little Cayman S over bad roads made track mode on a Z51 feel like a luxury suspension. I couldn't live with the suspension on a daily basis. On good to great roads, the car was super tight and responsive - more-so than the vette, albeit no comparison for power. Exterior on the Porsche to me - boring vs the vette, exotic and beautiful.
I got super lucky and got a 2016 Z51 with absolutely no orange peel. I know this really varies from car to car. Hoping the paint issue is laid to rest in 2018. Every vette I've had has had rattles. To me, they come with vette ownership. Too bad - perhaps. But worth living with, with all the plusses that come with vette ownership - absofrickinlutely.
#163
Instructor
I looked at a Cayman S before buying a C7 Z51, as a DD. I LOVED the surround audio system - it sounded absolutely amazing, way better than any other stock radio I've heard. The car I drove had plastic dash and doors - don't know enough about Porsche options or how much it costs (or availability) of full leather interior like the 3LT.
What knocked it out for me was driving it over bad roads - that little Cayman S over bad roads made track mode on a Z51 feel like a luxury suspension. I couldn't live with the suspension on a daily basis. On good to great roads, the car was super tight and responsive - more-so than the vette, albeit no comparison for power. Exterior on the Porsche to me - boring vs the vette, exotic and beautiful.
I got super lucky and got a 2016 Z51 with absolutely no orange peel. I know this really varies from car to car. Hoping the paint issue is laid to rest in 2018. Every vette I've had has had rattles. To me, they come with vette ownership. Too bad - perhaps. But worth living with, with all the plusses that come with vette ownership - absofrickinlutely.
What knocked it out for me was driving it over bad roads - that little Cayman S over bad roads made track mode on a Z51 feel like a luxury suspension. I couldn't live with the suspension on a daily basis. On good to great roads, the car was super tight and responsive - more-so than the vette, albeit no comparison for power. Exterior on the Porsche to me - boring vs the vette, exotic and beautiful.
I got super lucky and got a 2016 Z51 with absolutely no orange peel. I know this really varies from car to car. Hoping the paint issue is laid to rest in 2018. Every vette I've had has had rattles. To me, they come with vette ownership. Too bad - perhaps. But worth living with, with all the plusses that come with vette ownership - absofrickinlutely.
#164
Burning Brakes
Gearbox22 - a loud banging roof panel or dash failure would DEFINITELY be things to have repaired under warranty - they aren't something to be lived with.
Looking forward to your posts after receiving and driving the GS for a while. I just got into a 2016 3LT Z51 M7 - only reason I didn't get into a GS is that I found mine as CPO with only 1300 miles on it and a price too good to pass on. The car is amazing on every level. Hope you love yours!!!
And don't forget to wave when you see another corvette drive by!!!!
Looking forward to your posts after receiving and driving the GS for a while. I just got into a 2016 3LT Z51 M7 - only reason I didn't get into a GS is that I found mine as CPO with only 1300 miles on it and a price too good to pass on. The car is amazing on every level. Hope you love yours!!!
And don't forget to wave when you see another corvette drive by!!!!
#165
I currently have a 08 Cayman S and the option you have to get is PASM which is a have to have on that car. Like the Magride in your Z51, you can set the shocks from comfort to sport, but unlike Magride, the Pasm actually adjusts the shock within milliseconds depending on road conditions. When I first test drove the car I was on a back road with a chicane coming up. I was at about 70 before noticing that it was full of large ruts and potholes. Thinking that it was going to wash out a bit, I took a conservative line. I braced for a very bumpy ride, but to my amazement, the car just sailed through like there was no ruts at all and all I felt in the cabin was a mild rumble. But what turned me from getting another one was the decision by Porsche to convert all Caymans over to a 4 cylinder. Despite the power and torque increase, it wasn't the same for me. Needless to say, I'm on this forum now and have a heavily loaded 3LT GS 7M on order. I'll still keep the Cayman and hope the new Vette will be without some of the more annoying issues like a loudly banging roof panel or electronic failures reported on this forum. Squeaks, rattles, and minor paint flaws I could care less about, but a continuous loud banging of the roof panel over your head or a dash failure would make the car no fun to drive. But both eyes open and hope I get a good one.
You should check out TPC's Dynamic suspension control box for your Cayman S. It takes that PASM a bit further by changing stiffness per corner as the body weight transfers.
http://www.tpcracing.com/dsc.html
#166
^^^ LOL whatever!! Of course they are comparable! They've been compared to for decades. Perhaps GM should only produce 10,000 C7's and 1,000 Z06's and charge Porsche prices and then perhaps they would be compared in your mind! LOL....it's a Porsche NOT a Lambo or Aston Martin, etc, let's keep it real!
#167
Instructor
Gearbox22 - a loud banging roof panel or dash failure would DEFINITELY be things to have repaired under warranty - they aren't something to be lived with.
Looking forward to your posts after receiving and driving the GS for a while. I just got into a 2016 3LT Z51 M7 - only reason I didn't get into a GS is that I found mine as CPO with only 1300 miles on it and a price too good to pass on. The car is amazing on every level. Hope you love yours!!!
And don't forget to wave when you see another corvette drive by!!!!
Looking forward to your posts after receiving and driving the GS for a while. I just got into a 2016 3LT Z51 M7 - only reason I didn't get into a GS is that I found mine as CPO with only 1300 miles on it and a price too good to pass on. The car is amazing on every level. Hope you love yours!!!
And don't forget to wave when you see another corvette drive by!!!!
#168
16 Vettes and counting…..
At the behest of my Porsche-loving buddy, I test drove a 911 before deciding whether or not to purchase my 13th Corvette. I was coming out of six months with an SL550 and the Porsche was a welcome change as far handling and performance goes, but that was about it. Nothing about the car was impressive enough to warrant the ridiculous $130K price tag.
It was very nice: solid, fast, and great build quality....but beyond the obvious charms of being a great driver's car, it was boring as hell to me. Bland interior, bland exterior. Very little visual excitement....and after the jabbering, Porsche-elitist salesman spun the car out right in front of the nearby Chevy dealership, driving it was merely a formality for me by then. I had already made up my mind.
I had some trepidations about the C7. The early models I had seen were poorly painted and panels were misaligned. I walked away from the 2015 Z06 I ordered because after it arrived, my heart sank. I couldn't see spending $100K on car that had a few body panels that looked like somebody painted a pizza.
But after being Vette-less for eight months, I decided to check out a few 17's and the early build quality issues seemed to be a thing of the past. My GS arrived a couple of weeks ago and I was pleasantly surprised. The paint is the best of any Corvette I've ever had, and the interior no longer has to make any apologies. It's world class.....and that's coming from a guy who just dumped an SL550 and a CLS63. I'm not saying the Vette interior is as nice the MB interiors, but it doesn't have to be. It's exactly what I would want and expect in an $80K sports car.
As far as the driving experience, again I give the nod to C7. I'm still in the break-in period so I really can't say what it feels like at WOT compared to the 911. I would guess the 911 would have the edge 0-60, but beyond that, the razor sharp handling and compliant ride make the 911 feel far less refined. Even in track mode, the GS is less punishing than the 911.
I'm sure life with this C7 will not be always be sunshine and rainbows, but at this point, and can't imagine finding a better car at twice the price. We'll.....maybe a Z06.
It was very nice: solid, fast, and great build quality....but beyond the obvious charms of being a great driver's car, it was boring as hell to me. Bland interior, bland exterior. Very little visual excitement....and after the jabbering, Porsche-elitist salesman spun the car out right in front of the nearby Chevy dealership, driving it was merely a formality for me by then. I had already made up my mind.
I had some trepidations about the C7. The early models I had seen were poorly painted and panels were misaligned. I walked away from the 2015 Z06 I ordered because after it arrived, my heart sank. I couldn't see spending $100K on car that had a few body panels that looked like somebody painted a pizza.
But after being Vette-less for eight months, I decided to check out a few 17's and the early build quality issues seemed to be a thing of the past. My GS arrived a couple of weeks ago and I was pleasantly surprised. The paint is the best of any Corvette I've ever had, and the interior no longer has to make any apologies. It's world class.....and that's coming from a guy who just dumped an SL550 and a CLS63. I'm not saying the Vette interior is as nice the MB interiors, but it doesn't have to be. It's exactly what I would want and expect in an $80K sports car.
As far as the driving experience, again I give the nod to C7. I'm still in the break-in period so I really can't say what it feels like at WOT compared to the 911. I would guess the 911 would have the edge 0-60, but beyond that, the razor sharp handling and compliant ride make the 911 feel far less refined. Even in track mode, the GS is less punishing than the 911.
I'm sure life with this C7 will not be always be sunshine and rainbows, but at this point, and can't imagine finding a better car at twice the price. We'll.....maybe a Z06.
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#169
I have an older Porches and have lots of issues, mainly electrical. I have an older vette and have even more issues with it. My Prius has 444k miles and no issues. Buy what you like, expect something possibly to happen, or go buy a Toyota for a worry free experience
#170
Le Mans Master
444k miles???? Is your commute from New York to Los Angeles??
#171
Le Mans Master
I came close to buying a used Cayman S. They are great cars. I prefer them in some ways to the 911. But you just can't argue the budget factor of a C7, especially if you buy a low mileage used one.
#172
#173
What year is your Prius? Have you replaced the big battery in the car yet?We have a 2011 with 135K miles. They don't break much.
#175
Interesting thread as I just started a new thread over on the Jaguar Forum (I have been a member there for several years) making a comparison to my Jaguar XKR, Corvette C7, and Porsche Cayman 981. These are my impressions.
Here's the thread starter from the Jaguar Forum website:
Comparing Jaguar XKR, Porsche 981, Corvette C7 Stingray
As most of you know, I have some very nice choices of automobiles to drive. Most recently I added a 2015 Corvette C7 Stingray to my stable of premium sports cars.
A few members have asked for some comparisons and my thoughts. Please keep in mind these are personal impressions.
The stablemates:
2009 Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Convertible
2014 Porsche Cayman 981
2015 Corvette C7 Stingray
Ratings:
Sports Car Appearence:
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Luxury Appearence:
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Sports Car Interior Appearence
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Luxury Interior Appearence
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Smoothness of ride
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Engine Bay Appearence
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Porsche Cayman 981 (No engine to look at)
Power Performance of Engine
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Exhaust Note or Sound
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Overall Driver Handling
1) Porsche Cayman 981
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Interior Instrumentation Appearence
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Leather Interior Quality
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Overall Build Quality
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Exterior Paint Quality
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Acceleration
1) Corvette C7 Stingray (Non Supercharged)
2) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Editon Vert
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Telemetry
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche 0981
3)Jaguar Portfolio Edition Vert
Infotainment System
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition
Braking System Components
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert (Alcon components)
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Best ride EVER!
1) Phoenix F1000 Formula Race Car
These are just a few thoughts. If you are interested in any other comparisons, I will anwser any questions.
All 3 of these beautiful sports cars are a true privledge to own and drive. Each decidely different. I am so very well pleased with all 3 of these premium automobiles
Here's the thread starter from the Jaguar Forum website:
Comparing Jaguar XKR, Porsche 981, Corvette C7 Stingray
As most of you know, I have some very nice choices of automobiles to drive. Most recently I added a 2015 Corvette C7 Stingray to my stable of premium sports cars.
A few members have asked for some comparisons and my thoughts. Please keep in mind these are personal impressions.
The stablemates:
2009 Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Convertible
2014 Porsche Cayman 981
2015 Corvette C7 Stingray
Ratings:
Sports Car Appearence:
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Luxury Appearence:
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Sports Car Interior Appearence
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Luxury Interior Appearence
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Smoothness of ride
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Engine Bay Appearence
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Porsche Cayman 981 (No engine to look at)
Power Performance of Engine
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Exhaust Note or Sound
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Overall Driver Handling
1) Porsche Cayman 981
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Interior Instrumentation Appearence
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
Leather Interior Quality
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Overall Build Quality
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Exterior Paint Quality
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Corvette C7 Stingray
Acceleration
1) Corvette C7 Stingray (Non Supercharged)
2) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Editon Vert
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Telemetry
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche 0981
3)Jaguar Portfolio Edition Vert
Infotainment System
1) Corvette C7 Stingray
2) Porsche Cayman 981
3) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition
Braking System Components
1) Jaguar XKR Portfolio Edition Vert (Alcon components)
2) Corvette C7 Stingray
3) Porsche Cayman 981
Best ride EVER!
1) Phoenix F1000 Formula Race Car
These are just a few thoughts. If you are interested in any other comparisons, I will anwser any questions.
All 3 of these beautiful sports cars are a true privledge to own and drive. Each decidely different. I am so very well pleased with all 3 of these premium automobiles
#176
My Corvette is way nicer than the Prius, even if the C7 is a bit of a gas hog.
#177
16 Vettes and counting…..
This thread is about comparing a Corvette to a Porsche. Unless they have a comparable car, why bring a Toyota into it? Now if they build the new Supra.......
Last edited by VETTE-NV; 02-20-2017 at 07:31 PM.
#178
I would never take a porsche over a corvette, but god i wish American companies put cars together like the germans do. Its like they role their cars off the production line with pride, while we do the exact opposite.
#179
16 Vettes and counting…..
I've seen a crap load of 16's and 17's with misaligned panels and orange peel ... including mine. To be honest, i have not seen a single Vette at any dealership that didnt have some type of panel gap/misalignment. Not a single one of my german cars that i've owned in the last 15 or so years have had ANY panel gaps or orange peel. But guess what? Just about every one of my American cars had em.
I would never take a porsche over a corvette, but god i wish American companies put cars together like the germans do. Its like they role their cars off the production line with pride, while we do the exact opposite.
I would never take a porsche over a corvette, but god i wish American companies put cars together like the germans do. Its like they role their cars off the production line with pride, while we do the exact opposite.
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