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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 09:17 PM
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The adjuster finished looking at my car today, he said he really did not see any signed of a bent frame. While he was writing up his findings (mostly on the suspension parts), I noticed the drivers door is slight miss aligned and a slightly larger gap to the rear by the gas filer. Can this be a sign of a bent frame? Will close up photo tomorrow and post them. thank you.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 10:12 PM
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My previous car was rear ended and didn't get frame damage. However, the driver's door did get misaligned. The shop manager said that happens some times in a collision.
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Old Feb 9, 2015 | 10:18 PM
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These cars are the old fashioned body on a frame design and not one piece together like most cars built today. It's possible some of the body parts could have shifted a little and the frame be fine.
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The adjuster finished looking at my car today, he said he really did not see any signed of a bent frame. While he was writing up his findings (mostly on the suspension parts), I noticed the drivers door is slight miss aligned and a slightly larger gap to the rear by the gas filer. Can this be a sign of a bent frame? Will close up photo tomorrow and post them. thank you.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 07:15 AM
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My previous car was rear ended and didn't get frame damage. However, the driver's door did get misaligned. The shop manager said that happens some times in a collision.
Thank you for the inputs. I was really happy, the adjusted and I didn't really notice any signe of movement or shifiting from any of the connecting parts. I assess that the door will require some adjustment.
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Old Feb 10, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Honestly, you won't know for sure until you get the car on a laser rack and have the chassis measured. No one can eyeball the frame, it needs to be measured.

Not trying to be a downer but the adjusters job is to minimize the insurance companies risk. Your job is to make sure you get the car back whole.

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Originally Posted by mjw930
Honestly, you want know for sure until you get the car on a laser rack and have the chassis measured. No one can eyeball the frame, it needs to be measured.

Not trying to be a downer but the adjusters job is to minimize the insurance companies risk. Your job is to make sure you get the car back whole.
Hopefully the frame is OK, but a good shop will thoroughly check it out.
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Almost all claims are subject to a determination by a shop after the adjuster has looked at the car. Obviously, like renovating an old house, an adjuster can't tell "what's behind the walls or above the ceiling." They will modify their estimate based on professional input. Just make sure you go to a good shop that will check everything from front to back and in between.
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Just make sure you go to a good shop that will check everything from front to back and in between.
^This.^
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Just make sure you go to a good shop that will check everything from front to back and in between.

I'll throw this out there that the shops that are "dedicated Geico/StateFarm/AllState_____fill in the blank" collision shops may have the insurance company's best interest, not yours.
Any thoughts on this?
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Just make sure you go to a good shop that will check everything from front to back and in between.

I'll throw this out there that the shops that are "dedicated Geico/StateFarm/AllState_____fill in the blank" collision shops may have the insurance company's best interest, not yours.
Any thoughts on this?
My lack of trust for the shop around my area, even the dealership. I opt to perform all the mechanical work, as I take the car apart (mainly the brake systems) I will go throught it with a magnifying glass to find any indiacation of miss alignment. Once it is drivable I will have it looked at further. I did some assessment of the damage, it appears the wheels and the rotors took majority of the inpact.
With the impact I felt, I suspect some tie rod or lower control arm bent or signed of movement where they are attached.

I did not notices anything like that, I'll do more looking around as the impact area is exposed.
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Originally Posted by Crossed Flags Fan
Just make sure you go to a good shop that will check everything from front to back and in between.

I'll throw this out there that the shops that are "dedicated Geico/StateFarm/AllState_____fill in the blank" collision shops may have the insurance company's best interest, not yours.
Any thoughts on this?
Are they "dedicated" shops, or simply "authorized" shops? I've never heard of a shop that was dedicated solely to repairs from one ins company, but that could be the case in a large urban area. In any case, I don't think any shop is going to be dishonest about frame damage as that would be considered fraud and could get that shop in huge trouble. A laser frame tool doesn't lie about what it finds.
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Just be aware, if you have the frame checked, when you go to sell your car the CarFax report will say "possible frame damage." Obviously, that will make it harder to sell.
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I've been in the collision repair business for 35 years. Do Not have a shop with ANY insurance connection repair your vette. Make sure the full chassis is measured with a laser measuring machine such as a Chief Laser Lock by someone that knows. If a door does not align that is a suspect of chassis flex.

After repairs your cars value is now diminished by the simple fact of the accident and possibly an inferior repair. Google diminished value this will help you pace a claim against the insurance co for it. Most of what I see with DV claims range form 20 to 40% of the full repair cost.

Good luck and don't let them off the hook!
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There is no-way to check for a bent frame by eye unless the damage is severe enough to see. The car needs to be put on a frame machine and checked.
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I can give you a referral for an excellent body shop, who has done three of my collision repairs, one of which involves a direct relation to yours. My Z06 had undiscovered frame damage, only discovered when the car was pulled apart. This shop is professional, and honest (at least in the dealings I've had). It has tons of Corvette experience, and was able to work on the aluminum frame.

The repair did not show up on carfax. FWIW, and all repairs they've done have been undetectable.
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Originally Posted by owc6
I can give you a referral for an excellent body shop, who has done three of my collision repairs, one of which involves a direct relation to yours. My Z06 had undiscovered frame damage, only discovered when the car was pulled apart. This shop is professional, and honest (at least in the dealings I've had). It has tons of Corvette experience, and was able to work on the aluminum frame.

The repair did not show up on carfax. FWIW, and all repairs they've done have been undetectable.
Thank you! That would be greatly appreciated. PM sent.
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