In states where I have lived that require inspections, when buying a new car, the dealer inspected it before delivery.
Failed State Inspection
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When in CA, I went with my grandson in his car to have it checked since he had failed. He had been told to put on some miles as he had changed the battery prior to getting it checked. It was fine. Apparently with the battery disconnected it clears the air fuel settings and starts off rich until there are enough starts/stops and miles to have the system get to a leaner lower pollution situation.
It doesn't have anything to do with the A/F ratio. A car will go from closed to open loop relatively quick after startup, but that happens with every start. Yes, there are also adaptive learning strategies, but they don't have much to do with emissions.
What happens when the battery is disconnected and left off for a bit, is that all the car's applicable readiness monitors go from Ready to Not Ready. Subsequently, the car will have to go through a full drivecycle for the monitors to set Ready again. Only when that has happened, will the OBD2 test performed at the inspection station pass the car. Of course, the car still has to pass safety and visual, but that's another thing.
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My new 2015 C7 has failed Tx state smog inspection. I have four systems showing not ready. I was told to put more miles on and bring it back I had 25 miles on the first check. I put another 50 miles and returned to have a recheck one system cleared but still have 3 systems not ready showing. Any way to clear the systems other than putting on miles?
Is yours the Crystal Red one I see around town? (EDIT: Maybe not since you just got it)...
I have a Silver one I purchased in January 2015.
I don't know of a way to clear it other than driving (and sometimes it takes a while). I do have an inspection recommendation - Rudy's Garage next to Santa Fe Auto Parts. You wouldn't know by looking at the place but he always treats my cars with kid gloves and takes good care of me. He's a corvette guy.
Of course that won't help in this situation.
Here is the drive cycle that will supposedly set the required ready conditions:
http://www.obdii.com/drivecycle.html
The new inspection process really sucks. It was all about getting that extra month back. I really feel for the people whose inspection expires 4 months before their registration. They will have to get one when it expires and then again within the 90 day window before registration renewal. UGH! --- EDIT: Looks like they changed that so the 90 day window only matters after April 2016. So if you have a valid inspection you can renew. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/na...e11550173.html
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Safety Car
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Post number 22:
I purchased my corvette out of state. In my county in Texas the state smog inspection is required before you do registration. I have a temporary tag from the dealer but it is only good for a month. I did not do a courtesy delivery in which case the dealer would do the State inspection. It would surprise me if any new Corvette would pass smog tesing simply because it has to be driven to ready all systems for testing. Dealers are giving inspections based on the vehicle being new and not performing a smog test. Probably should have taken it to a Chevy dealer for testing.
Last edited by jedblanks; Mar 6, 2015 at 10:06 AM.
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Howdy Neighbor!
Is yours the Crystal Red one I see around town? (EDIT: Maybe not since you just got it)...
I have a Silver one I purchased in January 2015.
I don't know of a way to clear it other than driving (and sometimes it takes a while). I do have an inspection recommendation - Rudy's Garage next to Santa Fe Auto Parts. You wouldn't know by looking at the place but he always treats my cars with kid gloves and takes good care of me. He's a corvette guy.
Of course that won't help in this situation.
Here is the drive cycle that will supposedly set the required ready conditions:
http://www.obdii.com/drivecycle.html
The new inspection process really sucks. It was all about getting that extra month back. I really feel for the people whose inspection expires 4 months before their registration. They will have to get one when it expires and then again within the 90 day window before registration renewal. UGH! --- EDIT: Looks like they changed that so the 90 day window only matters after April 2016. So if you have a valid inspection you can renew. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/na...e11550173.html
Is yours the Crystal Red one I see around town? (EDIT: Maybe not since you just got it)...
I have a Silver one I purchased in January 2015.
I don't know of a way to clear it other than driving (and sometimes it takes a while). I do have an inspection recommendation - Rudy's Garage next to Santa Fe Auto Parts. You wouldn't know by looking at the place but he always treats my cars with kid gloves and takes good care of me. He's a corvette guy.
Of course that won't help in this situation.
Here is the drive cycle that will supposedly set the required ready conditions:
http://www.obdii.com/drivecycle.html
The new inspection process really sucks. It was all about getting that extra month back. I really feel for the people whose inspection expires 4 months before their registration. They will have to get one when it expires and then again within the 90 day window before registration renewal. UGH! --- EDIT: Looks like they changed that so the 90 day window only matters after April 2016. So if you have a valid inspection you can renew. http://www.star-telegram.com/news/na...e11550173.html
Thanks Jimmy
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It got a windshield sticker because it was inspected prior to March 1st. If it is a new car and you are the first owner of that car, it should have gotten a two year purple sticker. The TxDot information that I have read even remarks that the 2-year new car inspection program will continue into the future though there will be no more stickers for the windshield.
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I was told a month ago when I had my ZR1 inspected that inspection stations would not be able to source any more windshield stickers from DPS after Feb 20th. Exhaust your supply of stickers would mean waiting until March 1st before inspections could be performed again. Any unused stickers after March 1st could be returned and refunded from the State. I wonder what the chances are that Classic simply ran out of purple stickers and they used a one year sticker on your car??
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TX inspection
Took my 2016 C7 I bought from Kerbeck in NJ for inspection in TX today with 526 miles. Did not pass. Didn't fail, just not pass. The O2 and emissions showed "not ready". I was told to put more miles on it and it should be fine and would pass. (again, it didn't fail just read from the computer "not ready". Will be doubling miles this weekend with a planned trip so will be taking it back next week for re-inspection. In Texas they give you 15 days to get re-inspected with no additional charge. Stay tuned.
As far as the difference if I bought in TX....
I asked about that and a new car bought from a dealer in Texas just gets a safety inspection. They don't get into the emissions and all of that.
Once off a dealer lot, it is considered used (even if only a couple of miles) and the car has to go through the full inspection test that all "used" cars must pass.
I am not an inspection expert, just passing on what I learned/was told today. (I know far more than I wished based upon what happened)
I am concerned about temp tag running out in a week or so but will have to deal with that if pulled over..
That is what I learned (or at least heard) about Texas inspection and a relatively new C7 today.
Grandpa Dave
As far as the difference if I bought in TX....
I asked about that and a new car bought from a dealer in Texas just gets a safety inspection. They don't get into the emissions and all of that.
Once off a dealer lot, it is considered used (even if only a couple of miles) and the car has to go through the full inspection test that all "used" cars must pass.
I am not an inspection expert, just passing on what I learned/was told today. (I know far more than I wished based upon what happened)
I am concerned about temp tag running out in a week or so but will have to deal with that if pulled over..
That is what I learned (or at least heard) about Texas inspection and a relatively new C7 today.
Grandpa Dave
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Took my 2016 C7 I bought from Kerbeck in NJ for inspection in TX today with 526 miles. Did not pass. Didn't fail, just not pass. The O2 and emissions showed "not ready". I was told to put more miles on it and it should be fine and would pass. (again, it didn't fail just read from the computer "not ready". Will be doubling miles this weekend with a planned trip so will be taking it back next week for re-inspection. In Texas they give you 15 days to get re-inspected with no additional charge. Stay tuned.
As far as the difference if I bought in TX....
I asked about that and a new car bought from a dealer in Texas just gets a safety inspection. They don't get into the emissions and all of that.
Once off a dealer lot, it is considered used (even if only a couple of miles) and the car has to go through the full inspection test that all "used" cars must pass.
I am not an inspection expert, just passing on what I learned/was told today. (I know far more than I wished based upon what happened)
I am concerned about temp tag running out in a week or so but will have to deal with that if pulled over..
That is what I learned (or at least heard) about Texas inspection and a relatively new C7 today.
Grandpa Dave
As far as the difference if I bought in TX....
I asked about that and a new car bought from a dealer in Texas just gets a safety inspection. They don't get into the emissions and all of that.
Once off a dealer lot, it is considered used (even if only a couple of miles) and the car has to go through the full inspection test that all "used" cars must pass.
I am not an inspection expert, just passing on what I learned/was told today. (I know far more than I wished based upon what happened)
I am concerned about temp tag running out in a week or so but will have to deal with that if pulled over..
That is what I learned (or at least heard) about Texas inspection and a relatively new C7 today.
Grandpa Dave
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I'd go somewhere else for the inspection.
I'm in North DFW and the shop's first question to me when I brought it in was "why does a brand new car require an inspection -- should be good for 2 years?" After I told them I purchased new from dealer out of state (also Kerbeck), they said "well I guess we can do a safety inspection only, but sorry, we don't have the code to give you a 2 year sticker -- only the dealers have that".
They did a quick drive, and $7 dollars later I had a full inspection sheet to take to my tax office for registration. That was last year, just two weeks ago I took it to the exact same shop and had the same inspector -- he remembered that "this is the car that came from New Jersey". And for the second year, I (unexpectedly) also got a $7 dollar safety inspection that met the registration requirements
I'm in North DFW and the shop's first question to me when I brought it in was "why does a brand new car require an inspection -- should be good for 2 years?" After I told them I purchased new from dealer out of state (also Kerbeck), they said "well I guess we can do a safety inspection only, but sorry, we don't have the code to give you a 2 year sticker -- only the dealers have that".
They did a quick drive, and $7 dollars later I had a full inspection sheet to take to my tax office for registration. That was last year, just two weeks ago I took it to the exact same shop and had the same inspector -- he remembered that "this is the car that came from New Jersey". And for the second year, I (unexpectedly) also got a $7 dollar safety inspection that met the registration requirements
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I'd go somewhere else for the inspection.
I'm in North DFW and the shop's first question to me when I brought it in was "why does a brand new car require an inspection -- should be good for 2 years?" After I told them I purchased new from dealer out of state (also Kerbeck), they said "well I guess we can do a safety inspection only, but sorry, we don't have the code to give you a 2 year sticker -- only the dealers have that".
They did a quick drive, and $7 dollars later I had a full inspection sheet to take to my tax office for registration. That was last year, just two weeks ago I took it to the exact same shop and had the same inspector -- he remembered that "this is the car that came from New Jersey". And for the second year, I (unexpectedly) also got a $7 dollar safety inspection that met the registration requirements
I'm in North DFW and the shop's first question to me when I brought it in was "why does a brand new car require an inspection -- should be good for 2 years?" After I told them I purchased new from dealer out of state (also Kerbeck), they said "well I guess we can do a safety inspection only, but sorry, we don't have the code to give you a 2 year sticker -- only the dealers have that".
They did a quick drive, and $7 dollars later I had a full inspection sheet to take to my tax office for registration. That was last year, just two weeks ago I took it to the exact same shop and had the same inspector -- he remembered that "this is the car that came from New Jersey". And for the second year, I (unexpectedly) also got a $7 dollar safety inspection that met the registration requirements
I am going to be in Fort Worth Fridsy to see my son. I could have waited. I know there are only millions of people there but if you see an AW with NJ temp tag run me down and pull me over. Always nice to see other Corvette owners.
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Even from Out of State. I bought my car in NH and the initial inspection which you have to get within 10 days of getting plates only had the "safety" part of the inspection just like cars pre-1996 have to have done.
Used cars do have to pass the full inspection. Which my last daily driver I bought was slightly used. 10K miles on a 2 year old car. The car had a dead battery so not enough miles to set the monitors to pass. The dealer put a device on the OBDII port that beeps when all the monitors are set. It took a few days of back and forth to work or about 100 miles and they all got set.
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My 2014 just needed about 200 miles after the dealer updated the ECU with the latest programming for all the systems and monitors to set and show ready.
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My new 2015 C7 has failed Tx state smog inspection. I have four systems showing not ready. I was told to put more miles on and bring it back I had 25 miles on the first check. I put another 50 miles and returned to have a recheck one system cleared but still have 3 systems not ready showing. Any way to clear the systems other than putting on miles?
THE CAR IS NOT MOVING IN THIS PORTION
Turn on engine and idle engine until HO2S ready
Turn off for 5 minutes
Turn on & idle until temperature gauge reads 149F
Rev hold @1500 for 6.5 minutes while car in park.
Idle 1 min
Shift into Drive & HOLD BRAKE and Rev to 1500 for 2 minutes
Shift to park and idle for 2 minutes
Blip throttle 3 times reaching 2000 RPM
Idle 2 minutes
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DRIVING PORTION OF DRIVE CYCLE
Drive less than 15MPH for 2 minutes
Drive between 28-70 MPH and reach at least 50 sometime
Let off for 2 seconds
Accelerate and hold speed for 1 minute
Idle in drive for 2 minutes
Those instructions helped set all the codes in 2 tries. I used a OBDLINK MX unit with android torque pro app to check the emissions status.
Above is a summarized version that the mechanic printed out for me from the C7 service manual.
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This makes NO sense at all.....I am in Texas.....and WHY is the OP having it inspected at all.....every new car dealer in the state is state certified and inspects EVERY new car that comes on their lot and it gets an inspection sticker placed on it.
The only thing that could have happened is that the OP bought his car from out of state and now he has to get it inspected in Texas.....and as of March 1st, you can't even register your car without a VALID Inspection.
The only thing that could have happened is that the OP bought his car from out of state and now he has to get it inspected in Texas.....and as of March 1st, you can't even register your car without a VALID Inspection.
That's probably the situation, he got the car out of state and had to have it inspected as I did for mine last year, but my inspection station here only did a cursory review and no emissions test