Ford highlights the amazing value of the C7
03-06-2015, 12:34 PM
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I htink it's a hugely smart idea and is a "halo car" - nothing more....lotsa mfrs of products do it.
And the industry thinks a lot of the C7...I hear it all the time within the industry. At a recent Porsche dealer meeting back in sept, the pres of Porsche took time out of his "look at the industry" segment to dwell on the fact that GM now had a "real "player" in the market. The C& sales bar chart he showed for 14 towered over the competition And he also emphasized that if any of the dealer sales guys were blowing off the C7 when a customer came in and mentioned it, he said "DON'T - that's a real stupid move"...
And the industry thinks a lot of the C7...I hear it all the time within the industry. At a recent Porsche dealer meeting back in sept, the pres of Porsche took time out of his "look at the industry" segment to dwell on the fact that GM now had a "real "player" in the market. The C& sales bar chart he showed for 14 towered over the competition And he also emphasized that if any of the dealer sales guys were blowing off the C7 when a customer came in and mentioned it, he said "DON'T - that's a real stupid move"...
03-06-2015, 12:47 PM
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03-06-2015, 12:52 PM
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But that's strictly an opinion. I'd much rather have a Lambo or Ferrari over a Ford, but rumored specs on the GT are certainly in line with what they can do. I'd rather have a Lambo or Ferrari over a Buggati also and the Buggati is significantly more expensive.
03-06-2015, 01:01 PM
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Sure all car purchases are an opinion. I'm saying if I had 400 large to drop on a car I wouldn't even glance at the GT. That is not cause I am a CHEVY guy or anything stupid like that. I love the new Mustang GT and I loved the Terminators. I like Ford but I would never spend that kind of money on a GT.
03-06-2015, 01:02 PM
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I htink it's a hugely smart idea and is a "halo car" - nothing more....lotsa mfrs of products do it.
And the industry thinks a lot of the C7...I hear it all the time within the industry. At a recent Porsche dealer meeting back in sept, the pres of Porsche took time out of his "look at the industry" segment to dwell on the fact that GM now had a "real "player" in the market. The C& sales bar chart he showed for 14 towered over the competition And he also emphasized that if any of the dealer sales guys were blowing off the C7 when a customer came in and mentioned it, he said "DON'T - that's a real stupid move"...
And the industry thinks a lot of the C7...I hear it all the time within the industry. At a recent Porsche dealer meeting back in sept, the pres of Porsche took time out of his "look at the industry" segment to dwell on the fact that GM now had a "real "player" in the market. The C& sales bar chart he showed for 14 towered over the competition And he also emphasized that if any of the dealer sales guys were blowing off the C7 when a customer came in and mentioned it, he said "DON'T - that's a real stupid move"...
03-06-2015, 01:13 PM
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I too kick myself for not buying a GT as I looked at them and could have afforded one. I have a friend with one and I've driven it, so I can say with absolute certainty that there is no comparison at all between the GT and any generation Vette. None.
03-06-2015, 01:47 PM
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Indeed. Perhaps a version will be a homologation special for a Ford Le Mans entry. This is all good. If you want to play in the big leagues, then, by all means, play in the big leagues.
To Ford's credit, they have always done more and better racing than GM has. GM has never won in the top level at Le Mans, and the GT40 did it several times; GM has never won the World Sports Car title, but Ford/Shelby did it; The Ford Cosworth F1 motor is still one of the winningest engines of all time in F1. Ford has excelled in all levels of motorsport, and they are to be commended for it; also, when Ford gets into a series, they stay with it until they win it. GM needs to learn something about that, as they bailed out of their P1 Le Mans effort with the Cadillac P1 entry before making even a dent in the competition.
To Ford's credit, they have always done more and better racing than GM has. GM has never won in the top level at Le Mans, and the GT40 did it several times; GM has never won the World Sports Car title, but Ford/Shelby did it; The Ford Cosworth F1 motor is still one of the winningest engines of all time in F1. Ford has excelled in all levels of motorsport, and they are to be commended for it; also, when Ford gets into a series, they stay with it until they win it. GM needs to learn something about that, as they bailed out of their P1 Le Mans effort with the Cadillac P1 entry before making even a dent in the competition.
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03-06-2015, 02:17 PM
#33
honestly, I could give two ***** less about cars that aren't being built to be driven and enjoyed. this thing is a designed/forced collectors vehicle, much like the previous GT. I really appreciate them as a car but not when I know they'll just be locked up and never seen out on the roads.
performance per dollar, the vette is definitely a bargain.
performance per dollar, the vette is definitely a bargain.
03-06-2015, 02:21 PM
#34
honestly, I could give two ***** less about cars that aren't being built to be driven and enjoyed. this thing is a designed/forced collectors vehicle, much like the previous GT. I really appreciate them as a car but not when I know they'll just be locked up and never seen out on the roads.
performance per dollar, the vette is definitely a bargain.
performance per dollar, the vette is definitely a bargain.
03-06-2015, 02:22 PM
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03-06-2015, 03:01 PM
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03-06-2015, 06:20 PM
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I think $400k is a conservative number.
Based on the Le Mans rules (which are online) a manufacturer who intends to race at Le Mans must build 100 cars (for homologation) to qualify (a small manufacturer can build 50). However to use a Carbon Fiber Monocoque you must build 300 cars for to homologate. Since we all know that this cars purpose is to race, I gather Ford will produce 300-500 cars. At that volume I can foresee the car costing 600k, or even as much as 1 million.
Also just so you know how secret this program was, when it was announced those of us who work there were SHOCKED.
He will be 0-2 as the CREV program exists and from what I understand is ISN'T the C8 (rather it is just a mid-engine C7 ZR1). The Stingray (or base) and Z06 will continue as front engine cars into the future on C8 (and of course the ZR1 will stay mid-engine)
Based on the Le Mans rules (which are online) a manufacturer who intends to race at Le Mans must build 100 cars (for homologation) to qualify (a small manufacturer can build 50). However to use a Carbon Fiber Monocoque you must build 300 cars for to homologate. Since we all know that this cars purpose is to race, I gather Ford will produce 300-500 cars. At that volume I can foresee the car costing 600k, or even as much as 1 million.
Also just so you know how secret this program was, when it was announced those of us who work there were SHOCKED.
03-06-2015, 07:04 PM
#39
.. maybe down the line, in very limited and minimalist ways. how often do you see last gen ford gt's out? I only ever hear of a few, out at like texas mile like events. the rest are all locked up in collections and protected as investments. I hate seeing that happen to awesome cars.
03-06-2015, 07:11 PM
#40
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The last Ford GT is the only vehicle I am aware of that never had a depreciation curve. It has been appreciating in value from day one.
That said, someone at Ford is thinking the same will occur with the new version, rightly or not.
Even if I could afford a 6x price above a C 7 I would not make that investment. Seems like greed is the order of the day.
That said, someone at Ford is thinking the same will occur with the new version, rightly or not.
Even if I could afford a 6x price above a C 7 I would not make that investment. Seems like greed is the order of the day.