My (lack of) GPS solution
#22
Burning Brakes
- My Garmin lets me build routes on the computer, defining exactly the roads I want to take, and upload those routes to the GPS. Google maps only lets you put in destinations, and then it chooses the roads. When I'm out for fun, I don't want to pick the fastest or shortest route, I want to pick the twistiest route. No way to do that with Google. (You can do it manually on the PC, by dragging the route around, but there's no way to force your phone to follow that route.)
- My Garmin lets me choose to automatically reroute if I go off the programmed route, or not. Maps always reroutes. Not always what I want to do.
- My Garmin will remember a track of where I've driven, which I can upload to a PC and review later. I can also convert that to a route later.
- My Garmin shows me more info: altitude, moving average speed, total average speed, time spent not moving, total time, and more.
- I can save a Garmin route to a file, and share it with other Garmin users. Handy if you want a group of people to travel together.
OTOH, maps let's me say things like "Navigate to [restaurant name] without having to look up the address. Can't do that on my GPS. But sometimes doing that doesn't work very well. Yesterday I told Maps to "Navigate to [restaurant name, city, state] and the app insisted on taking me to a restaurant of the same name in a neighboring state. Not very helpful.
* My iphone asks me if I want to reroute if there is heavy traffic, and also presents 3 separate routes to choose from when I first input an address to go to.
* My iphone also remembers popular destinations that I like and how I got there.
*I can find directions on the computer, or on the phone, and send them to my phone, or anyone else by text or email. (from the phone or computer)
*My phone also can speak to me (over my cars speakers). And I can also ask for directions using my voice only.
*Zagat ratings, real time traffic updates, constant software updates are also happening. Meaning that I'm never looking for a restaurant or location without it coming up (because the software is too old).
these things in addition to a host of other options that only grow as time goes on. The best part is there is no extra investment. Since your phone is used. And no hardware to go out of date (since your phone gets updated every couple years anyhow.)
You were saying??
Let me go ahead and continue this class with Spotify. For all of you out there that keep your music on storage device of some sort still.
A brief lesson on that is that service is 6 bucks a month for CD quality streaming. And has a library of 20 million songs all at your fingertips to make whatever playlists you want.
Last edited by sanantguy; 06-13-2015 at 05:29 PM.
#23
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OK Mr iPhone guy- I'd like to see how your phone works in the thousand dead zones all around the country. A GPS works from the satellites from space- not line of sight towers.
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#24
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Not at all.....for I rarely ever use my Tom Tom.....and if I do need to use it.....I have already programed in my destination, my radio is already on.....or the flash drive with a few thousand songs on its (which is in its slot at all times) is already playing.....I drop the screen and take off. PIECE OF CAKE.
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#27
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When you lose a signal it will use dead reckoning from the Accelerometer and gyroscope built in.
Even in the middle of butthole Arizona and nevada I never did not have a signal for long at all.
Next question.
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#29
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Just did that in the middle of Arizona. And yeah, I know how GPS works.
When you lose a signal it will use dead reckoning from the Accelerometer and gyroscope built in.
Even in the middle of butthole Arizona and nevada I never did not have a signal for long at all.
Next question.
When you lose a signal it will use dead reckoning from the Accelerometer and gyroscope built in.
Even in the middle of butthole Arizona and nevada I never did not have a signal for long at all.
Next question.
#30
Burning Brakes
For 99% of the driving that MOST people do in this country. Not having enough of a gps signal to the point of your phones google maps to not function is rare, if ever.
if your that 1% that lives in the boonies and has no cell phone signal. Well, I'd think you have bigger problems than that anyhow.
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Great idea !
A recent post (just about a year ago)...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...on-issues.html
I have Nav, but it is so bad, I installed the Garmin for backup! Just recently needed it because the MyLink Nav couldn't find the address I needed to go to. Popped up on the Garmin (6 year old one) in seconds.
When I get in my car, my phone is in my pocket. Bluetooth allows me to keep it there for phone calls.
My built-in GPS and add on Garmin sure beat taking the phone out, putting it in the bracket somewhere, (plugging it in, possibly). Worst case scenario, I have to push the screen down button.... and a GPS is always powered from the car, no need to attach dangling cables, or connect to brackets.
I firmly believe that factory installed GPS would blow the phone systems out of the water... IF the manufacturers didn't go with such poor GPS software. My $400 option Garmin based GPS in my Dodge Journey is spectacular... my C7 nav is junk, but as I've noted before, GM says they designed it that way!
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A recent post (just about a year ago)...
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...on-issues.html
I have Nav, but it is so bad, I installed the Garmin for backup! Just recently needed it because the MyLink Nav couldn't find the address I needed to go to. Popped up on the Garmin (6 year old one) in seconds.
When I get in my car, my phone is in my pocket. Bluetooth allows me to keep it there for phone calls.
My built-in GPS and add on Garmin sure beat taking the phone out, putting it in the bracket somewhere, (plugging it in, possibly). Worst case scenario, I have to push the screen down button.... and a GPS is always powered from the car, no need to attach dangling cables, or connect to brackets.
I firmly believe that factory installed GPS would blow the phone systems out of the water... IF the manufacturers didn't go with such poor GPS software. My $400 option Garmin based GPS in my Dodge Journey is spectacular... my C7 nav is junk, but as I've noted before, GM says they designed it that way!
Ed
#32
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Let me add a statement.
For 99% of the driving that MOST people do in this country. Not having enough of a gps signal to the point of your phones google maps to not function is rare, if ever.
if your that 1% that lives in the boonies and has no cell phone signal. Well, I'd think you have bigger problems than that anyhow.
Cell phone rule #1 Thou shall not have sprint as as service provider.
For 99% of the driving that MOST people do in this country. Not having enough of a gps signal to the point of your phones google maps to not function is rare, if ever.
if your that 1% that lives in the boonies and has no cell phone signal. Well, I'd think you have bigger problems than that anyhow.
Cell phone rule #1 Thou shall not have sprint as as service provider.
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Let me add a statement.
For 99% of the driving that MOST people do in this country. Not having enough of a gps signal to the point of your phones google maps to not function is rare, if ever.
if your that 1% that lives in the boonies and has no cell phone signal. Well, I'd think you have bigger problems than that anyhow.
Yeah, like no flush toilets .............
Cell phone rule #1 Thou shall not have sprint as as service provider.
For 99% of the driving that MOST people do in this country. Not having enough of a gps signal to the point of your phones google maps to not function is rare, if ever.
if your that 1% that lives in the boonies and has no cell phone signal. Well, I'd think you have bigger problems than that anyhow.
Yeah, like no flush toilets .............
Cell phone rule #1 Thou shall not have sprint as as service provider.
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#36
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2016 and newer won't have this issue.
They will support Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Which means you can just use the GPS + apps on your iPhone or Android phone and either Apple or Google Maps will show up on the factory 8" touchscreen.
They will support Apple CarPlay and Android Auto. Which means you can just use the GPS + apps on your iPhone or Android phone and either Apple or Google Maps will show up on the factory 8" touchscreen.
#37
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At this point there is almost nothing a dedicated GPS unit does, that a smartphone GPS app can't do. Generally speaking the smartphone apps get updated much more often, report live traffic (including accidents, road closures, cops, etc), have much more detailed information about points of interests (i.e. restaurant reviews, contact information, pictures, etc) and have up to the minute feedback from other drivers also using the app and traveling the same roads you are.
I know some of you guys are hardcore about the dedicated GPS units.. but once you use a decent one on your smartphone you will never go back to carrying another device that simply does a task that your smartphone already executes incredibly well.
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#39
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No need to get snarky, jerk off. I'm well aware of the capabilities of modern devices. And I did say there are things a smartphone can do that my GPS can't. But none of the things you list below are what I listed above. Maybe hone your reading comprehension skills a little bit?
Not even remotely close to the same as building a custome route, choosing the roads I want to follow
Nice. So does a Garmin. Can you save that information and send it to someone else as a route? Note the destination and waypoints, but an actual custom route, that YOU defined, not one that Apple defined?
Does it send the actual ROUTE, or just the destination(s), and then create the route on the phone? That's all I've seen a smartphone do, and it's not even close to what I described.
Yeah, so can my phone. But my Garmin is loud enough I don't need to have the directions over my speakers. So I can actually listen to XM, or another music source, on the car system, and still get spoken directions. Don't think your iPhone lets you do that, does it?
Many GPS units do real-time traffic now. Garmin updates maps quarterly. Not exactly real time, but in spite of what you think Apple isn't updating their map database in real time. It gets batch updates. Probably more than quarterly, but I've not run into any more issues with incorrect maps on the Garmin than on a smartphone. As far as Zagat and the like, yeah. I said smartphone have some advantages. There's that reading comprehension thing again.
I was saying that, in spite of the limited reading comprehension Apple fanboys seem to have, that GPS units do thing that smartphones don't. Incontrovertibly true, and you've done nothing to prove otherwise. I also said there are things smartphones do that GPS units don't. But your kneejerk "Apple uber alles" response apparently prevented you from actually reading my post.
Boy, you really are arrogant, aren't you? My career is in technology, and I'm currently managing a team of mobile developers. I'm plenty familiar with spotify. And it spite of its 20 million songs, there's a whole lot of music I like that spotify doesn't cover at all, or has only a few songs by the artist. A brief lesson in humility: you don't know it all, you don't have all the answers, and what works best for you isn't automatically best for everyone. Your momma didn't give birth to a perfect child. Admitting that to yourself would be a good start to becoming human.
* My iphone also remembers popular destinations that I like and how I got there.
*I can find directions on the computer, or on the phone, and send them to my phone, or anyone else by text or email. (from the phone or computer)
*My phone also can speak to me (over my cars speakers). And I can also ask for directions using my voice only.
*Zagat ratings, real time traffic updates, constant software updates are also happening. Meaning that I'm never looking for a restaurant or location without it coming up (because the software is too old).
these things in addition to a host of other options that only grow as time goes on. The best part is there is no extra investment. Since your phone is used. And no hardware to go out of date (since your phone gets updated every couple years anyhow.)
You were saying??
You were saying??
Let me go ahead and continue this class with Spotify. For all of you out there that keep your music on storage device of some sort still.
A brief lesson on that is that service is 6 bucks a month for CD quality streaming. And has a library of 20 million songs all at your fingertips to make whatever playlists you want.
A brief lesson on that is that service is 6 bucks a month for CD quality streaming. And has a library of 20 million songs all at your fingertips to make whatever playlists you want.
#40
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The GPS on a smartphone works the exact same way. It pings the same GPS satellites that your dedicated Garmin does. Furthermore most of the better smartphone GPS apps will allow you to download your entire route/map just incase you lose your cellular connection while driving through remote areas.. (I know for a fact that Google Maps does this). TomTom for example stores the entire map of the U.S. on the phone.. and while it hogs up 1.5GB of storage space you will NEVER have to worry about TomTom not working due to a "dead zone".
At this point there is almost nothing a dedicated GPS unit does, that a smartphone GPS app can't do.
I know some of you guys are hardcore about the dedicated GPS units.. but once you use a decent one on your smartphone you will never go back to carrying another device that simply does a task that your smartphone already executes incredibly well.