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Old Aug 19, 2015 | 01:19 PM
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My car has about 250 miles on it. Mostly around town except the first 50 miles from Criswell to my house. I am headed to VIR this weekend travelin down I81. If I cruise at 70-75 mph, should I drive in manual periodically and vary the engine speed by using lower gears? Don't want to use backroads as my spouse will be with me and doesn't appreciate "spirited driving". Thanks.
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Me too. On the highway I varied the speed between 60-80mph--like 70 for a while, then down to 60, up to 80, 65, etc.--about once or twice per minute and didn't use the cruise control except briefly. I also shifted to 6th and 7th gear (A8) occasionally to vary the RPMs a bit more, too. I did it as per the book for the first 500 miles, then gradually lifted the break-in procedure from 500-1000 with no WOT until 1000 miles. That's more than most drivers would do, but I believe in a conservative break-in.

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I often wondered if you really should follow the break-in instructions in the manual. After many conversations with engineers at BG, my conclusion is "yes". Take out your owner's manual and do exactly what they tell you to do.

But, it's your car so do whatever you like.
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Drive it like you stole it....when they come off the line ...a worker jumps in and for 10 mins drives YOUR car HARD VERY HARD....and if a problem shows up... and it comes back into the "shop" after the "fix" it is driven even HARDER. I saw it ..... they might even take it on the Factory Track. You can tell by how much mileage is on the odometer when it got to your dealer. Most Vettes have between 2 & 6 miles on them any more and chances are it was DRIVEN hard. And thats to say that there is nothing wrong with that .... thats how they make sure your car is as good as can be....

I was told when I left the Museum to drive it like I would normally drive.....
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Drive it like you stole it....when they come off the line ...a worker jumps in and for 10 mins drives YOUR car HARD VERY HARD....and if a problem shows up... and it comes back into the "shop" after the "fix" it is driven even HARDER. I saw it ..... they might even take it on the Factory Track. You can tell by how much mileage is on the odometer when it got to your dealer. Most Vettes have between 2 & 6 miles on them any more and chances are it was DRIVEN hard. And thats to say that there is nothing wrong with that .... thats how they make sure your car is as good as can be....

I was told when I left the Museum to drive it like I would normally drive.....
Well now, this is good news as I will be taking it on the track at VIR for some parade laps and will likely have an opportunity to open it up. Last year I was able to hit 110 in my Z4.
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So, take your pick rmorin1249. Follow what the people who make the car recommend (page 175 of the 2016 owner's manual) or some of the other suggestions. Guess it all depends on who you think knows what they're talking about.
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The car will have over 500 miles on it by the time I get to VIR. Even at 100 mph I will only be turning about 3K rpms in 8th gear. No problem. I'll take it easy on the way down from Maryland.
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So, take your pick rmorin1249. Follow what the people who make the car recommend (page 175 of the 2016 owner's manual) or some of the other suggestions. Guess it all depends on who you think knows what they're talking about.
^^^^^ Best advice^^^^^^

FYI,I read a post here quoting a BG plant source saying that the 500 mile RPM limit is due to the RTV used to seal the oil pan and front cover add some contaminants to the oil while they cure and that can cause foaming at high RPMS. Just a thought.
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
My car has about 250 miles on it. Mostly around town except the first 50 miles from Criswell to my house. I am headed to VIR this weekend travelin down I81. If I cruise at 70-75 mph, should I drive in manual periodically and vary the engine speed by using lower gears? Don't want to use backroads as my spouse will be with me and doesn't appreciate "spirited driving". Thanks.
I drove my first 100 miles in BG driving between NCM and Discount Tire.. The remaining 400 miles were all on the Interstate. Every couple of minutes I went from 7th, 6th, 5th with the clutch depressed for about 10 seconds in between each shift to get the RPM's down. It was as tiring as heck and I was so happy when I got past 500 miles. It's the same thing I did when I did my last R8C in 2001. Since they essentially want different RPM's, doing the above seems to satisfy that requirement.

I never had any issues with my 2001 Z06 (granted it was a different engine) so I don't expect any with my 2016.
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Originally Posted by obxchartercaptain
Drive it like you stole it....when they come off the line ...a worker jumps in and for 10 mins drives YOUR car HARD VERY HARD....and if a problem shows up... and it comes back into the "shop" after the "fix" it is driven even HARDER. I saw it ..... they might even take it on the Factory Track. You can tell by how much mileage is on the odometer when it got to your dealer. Most Vettes have between 2 & 6 miles on them any more and chances are it was DRIVEN hard. And thats to say that there is nothing wrong with that .... thats how they make sure your car is as good as can be....

I was told when I left the Museum to drive it like I would normally drive.....
that's what I was told from my Buyer's Tour guide. However, they don't drive it that way for an extended period of time. The break in instructions are pretty clear about extended periods of time at the same speed -- which I interpret as the same RPM.

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For the first 800 km (500 mi):
. Avoid full throttle starts and
abrupt stops.
. Do not exceed 4000 rpm.
. Avoid driving at any one
constant speed, fast or slow,
including the use of cruise
control.
. Avoid downshifting to brake or
slow the vehicle when the
engine speed will exceed
4000 rpm.
. Do not let the engine labor.
Never lug the engine. With a
manual transmission, shift to the
next lower gear. This rule
applies at all times, not just
during the break-in period.
. After the first 800 km (500 mi),
change the engine oil on
vehicles with the LT1 engine and
Z51 package, or the LT4 engine.
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Old Aug 20, 2015 | 07:10 AM
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I drove my car home 260 miles from the dealer, 99% of that in Interstates. I used 5th, 6th and 7th in addition to varying my speed to allow the engine to vary the RPMs as much as practical. I don't know if the engine benefitted or not but it produced the worst MPG run in my ownership of the car, only 21 MPG.
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Me too. On the highway I varied the speed between 60-80mph--like 70 for a while, then down to 60, up to 80, 65, etc.--about once or twice per minute and didn't use the cruise control except briefly. I also shifted to 6th and 7th gear (A8) occasionally to vary the RPMs a bit more, too. I did it as per the book for the first 500 miles, then gradually lifted the break-in procedure from 500-1000 with no WOT until 1000 miles. That's more than most drivers would do, but I believe in a conservative break-in.
^^ this is what I would do ^^
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The break in instructions are pretty clear about extended periods of time at the same speed -- which I interpret as the same RPM.

If that's what they meant that's what they would have said. The varying speed is about breaking in the drive train as well as the engine.
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I'm not sure where a possible debate exists here? The owner's manual is explicit in its instructions for break-in. Why would anyone think they know better than GM?
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Originally Posted by rmorin1249
My car has about 250 miles on it. Mostly around town except the first 50 miles from Criswell to my house. I am headed to VIR this weekend travelin down I81. If I cruise at 70-75 mph, should I drive in manual periodically and vary the engine speed by using lower gears? Don't want to use backroads as my spouse will be with me and doesn't appreciate "spirited driving". Thanks.
If I drove at over 3000 rpm with my wife in the car, or hit more than 0.5 "g's" in a turn, she'd never get back in! I'm sure you can constrain yourself for one trip!
I followed the manual for my C6 and C7. Neither burned oil between oil chages! For the C6 had to drive ~600 miles to bring the car back from Kerbeck. It like my C7 was a standard shift. Just used 4th, 5th and 6th without cruise control. All was fine. For the ~150 miles bringing the C7 back from NC, used back roads, which also had some time on the brakes. Much of the " drive it like you stole it" relates to what some read re piston ring sealing in a racing engine with those tolerances. They forget you need to break in the differential gears as well. Time enough for you to hit redline after 1000 miles, IMO! If you must drive on the highway with your A8 just put it in manual and use all the overdrive gears.

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I often wondered if you really should follow the break-in instructions in the manual. After many conversations with engineers at BG, my conclusion is "yes". Take out your owner's manual and do exactly what they tell you to do.
Having been a car enthusiast for about 55 years I've never heard of any car or motorcycle that didn't require some sort of break-in procedure, most similar to what we see today. A few years ago I researched the factory-recommended break-in procedure for Euro sports cars like Porsche, Lambo, and Ferrari, and they all had similar recommendations. There must be a reason, so I do it.
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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iclick,

You mean to say that you actually "trust" the engineers that design these systems to know how to properly break them in and not the "know it alls" on this forum?
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The engineers didn't write the manual the legal department did. Do a search on Motoman break-in.
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