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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:41 PM
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No what you're set out on doing is trying to take advantage of poor people who have genuine problems with their transmission so you can try to drum up some support to back up your bs claim that GM needs to give you a refund for your car rather than honor your contract, and that's why you **** me off, because you're trying to take advantage of people in a bad situation for your own personal gain and that makes you scum.

What he's describing isn't the car malfunctioning, his description of the problem exactly matches the designed functionality of the performance shift mode that he doesn't understand and thinks is holding his gears too long, which is exactly how it's supposed to function as others have stated.

Unless it's pegging the red line "over reving" is a relative statement based on when the driver thinks the car should shift, obviously the OP thinks the car should shift at a lower rev than someone looking for performance driving would want the car to shift at, and where it's programmed to shift. This is how the car is designed and how it should work, if he doesn't want to have performance shifting he should drive in a non-performance mode like touring as others have said.
And you know this how? Were you in the car with him? What makes you such an expert on how the A8 should behave in his case? Over revving is not a normal condition at interstate driving speeds.

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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:44 PM
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Yes he is did you not read the post fully? So you think over revving and having to change modes to get the transmission to shift properly is normal? What are you smoking? These threads are going to HANG GM with warranty claims and buy backs. Priceless they are and I have every one of them saved.
You're the one who clearly hasn't read this thread. What he's describing isn't the car malfunctioning, his description of the problem exactly matches the designed functionality of the performance shift mode that he doesn't understand and thinks is holding his gears too long, which is exactly how it's supposed to function as others have stated.

Unless it's pegging the red line "over reving" is a relative statement based on when the driver thinks the car should shift, obviously the OP thinks the car should shift at a lower rev than someone looking for performance driving would want the car to shift at, and where it's programmed to shift. This is how the car is designed and how it should work for those of us that actually want to drive our cars hard, if he doesn't want to have performance shifting he should drive in a non-performance mode like touring as others have said.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:46 PM
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And you know this how? Were you in the car with him? What makes you such an expert on how the A8 should behave in his case? Over revving is not a normal condition at interstate driving speeds.
Actually that's exactly how it should behave after accelerating hard and causing the car to switch into Performance mode because it thinks you're on a track trying to pass a Porsche on the back straight. Do you think an early up shift at 3,500 RPM is what someone wants when passing on the track? The car doesn't know you're on an interstate or laguna seca but since you told it to drive in SPORT mode it assumes you're on a track, not cruising to the golf course on I-5

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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:48 PM
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Actually that's exactly how it should behave after accelerating hard and causing the car to switch into Performance mode because it thinks you're on a track trying to pass a Porsche on the back straight.
Isn't that what track mode is for?
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:49 PM
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Isn't that what track mode is for?
No track mode is for experienced driver that want to turn all the nannys off, Sport mode is for guys like you that would probably end up backwards at 120 MPH with the nannys off and need the car to hold their hand around the track.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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As of this morning, I have read the manual again and again, as well as listened to each person trying to advise, and I have come to the conclusion that it is supposed to work that way. I still do not understand what value this feature creates, but I as long as it is not a symptom of a much worse problem I can live with it.

One day I want to take it to the track and see if it really upshifts after 10 seconds. I think I would be traveling over 100 MPH if I were to try it on the highway.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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No track mode is for experienced driver that want to turn all the nannys off, Sport mode is for guys like you that would probably end up backwards at 120 MPH with the nannys off and need the car to hold their hand around the track.
Well I see nothing in his post that indicates he was making any unusual advances on the throttle to cause the car not to up shift properly on the interstate. You shouldn't have to put the car in neutral to get the desired gear in any mode.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 08:01 PM
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As of this morning, I have read the manual again and again, as well as listened to each person trying to advise, and I have come to the conclusion that it is supposed to work that way. I still do not understand what value this feature creates, but I as long as it is not a symptom of a much worse problem I can live with it.

One day I want to take it to the track and see if it really upshifts after 10 seconds. I think I would be traveling over 100 MPH if I were to try it on the highway.
Exactly Hello?

Advance the video to the 2 min mark,

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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by efarley
No what you're set out on doing is trying to take advantage of poor people who have genuine problems with their transmission so you can try to drum up some support to back up your bs claim that GM needs to give you a refund for your car rather than honor the contract you agreed to, and that's why you **** me off, because you're trying to take advantage of people in a bad situation for your own personal gain and that makes you scum.


Well, let me tell you this....this thread is starting to **** ME off!


Either the cussing stops and we discuss this topic like grown men or I'll just close the thread and ban the one's who can't be civil nor act mature online.

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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 08:19 PM
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Well I see nothing in his post that indicates he was making any unusual advances on the throttle to cause the car not to up shift properly on the interstate. You shouldn't have to put the car in neutral to get the desired gear in any mode.
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In the sport mode and the shifter is set to "D." I speed up from like 60 to 70 to change lanes, and it downshifts as it should but then over revs and does not upshift unless I do it with the paddles or put it in neutral and then back to drive. I happened to be looking at the gauges on the heads up and I notice it shows the tranny is in" M" but I look down and the shifter still says "D."
Read the bold and you where he 'advances on the throttle' (ie pushes the gas pedal). He shifts to neutral to get out of Manual mode which can also be done by shifting to Manual then back to Drive or hold the upshift paddle for at least 1 second.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 08:26 PM
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I know there have been numerous threads about a A-8 issues but I am really getting worried. I have an issue with mine that has recurred several times, except when the car is at the dealer. They say they cannot duplicate the problem. It was in the shop from Tuesday until Saturday last week and I get the ticket and it says there is nothing wrong with my car.. there is. 5 minutes after I picked it up, the problem occurred and then twice since then. Here is what is going on:

In the sport mode and the shifter is set to "D." I speed up from like 60 to 70 to change lanes, and it downshifts as it should but then over revs and does not upshift unless I do it with the paddles or put it in neutral and then back to drive. I happened to be looking at the gauges on the heads up and I notice it shows the tranny is in" M" but I look down and the shifter still says "D."

I am going to bring it back in on Monday drive it with the shop foreman but if he still says there is nothing wrong, I am out of ideas except to order a new car with a manual transmission. I am concerned that this could be a symptom of a far greater problem. It shifts fine in every other mode.

Any ideas on a different way forward?
My car does this when it goes into Performance shifting mode. But if I back off the gas a bit it usually shifts back to normal in about 15secs without having to manually upshift. Its normal behavior.
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Old Sep 21, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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If you happen to work for GM or a supplier of this turd box transmission listen up buddy, I'm set out to HANG GM on this unsafe 8 speed tranny count on it.
not gm employee, not a fan boy of GM nor even of past corvettes, not a supplier, just a C7 A8 owner with over 6k miles since the end of april, my A8 has worked flawlessly to this point. I dont baby it I use all modes appropriate to what driving I am doing, back road bombing I am in track and Man mode, grocery getting in eco, highway cruising in sport Auto, best auto I have ever driven, if it wasn't as good as it is I would have bought an M7, but this transmission is worth moving to auto for IMHO
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Originally Posted by crawfish333
As of this morning, I have read the manual again and again, as well as listened to each person trying to advise, and I have come to the conclusion that it is supposed to work that way. I still do not understand what value this feature creates, but I as long as it is not a symptom of a much worse problem I can live with it.
PAS/PAL is activated when it senses an aggressive driving maneuver and it holds the gear in anticipation that additional similar driving will soon occur. By doing so it avoids the delay that would occur if the transmission shifted into a higher gear and then had to shift to a lower gear seconds later when the aggressive maneuver continued; this also reduces heat generation and clutch pack wear in the transmission that would result from constant shifting.

PAS/PAL mimics the behavior that a knowledgeable driver of a manual transmission would use going through a series of curves that involve alternating hard acceleration followed by periods of sustained speed or deceleration. It has been used in many GM vehicles with automatic transmissions for several years.
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